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ETF for long-time customer when renewing a plan?
Posted Wed July 15, 2009 12:04 pm, by Donald C. written to Verizon Wireless (Cell Phones)
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I've been a Verizon Wireless customer since 1999. I have a four line family plan (with one blackberry) and the main line is now eligible for the New Every 2 discount. I was going to renew with Verizon and upgrade the main line to the Tour, but I only want 3 lines now. I was on the live chat on their website and the operator there says I will have to pay an early termination fee for the one line I want to drop. I'm appalled that they expect me to pay to renew a contract. I'm pretty sure that AT&T or Sprint won't expect the same. My family will be happy with their new iPhones, I'm sure.
Allow me to renew while dropping from 4 lines to 3 without trying gouge the early termination fee out of me.
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by Donald C. Posted Thu July 16, 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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A Verizon representative called today. He was very friendly and understood why this seems trivial to me. He agreed and waived the fee. Thanks to Verizon and PFB for working this out!
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by Tom S. Posted Wed July 15, 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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Dude, you signed 2 year contracts, that means you pay for service on those lines for 24 months or pay a penalty to cancel it early. EVERY CARRIER IN THE US OPERATES THIS WAY.
Plus you are being very misleading with your wording. You are NOT being charged an ETF for upgrading 3 lines, you ARE being charged an ETF for canceling one line. Own up to the contract you signed.
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by Donno Posted Wed July 15, 2009 @ 7:29 PM
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These bastards all operate pretty much the same way. As Jeffrey wrote below, if you are otherwise happy it may make sense to stay put.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Thu July 16, 2009 @ 9:22 AM
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Suppose a customer said to you "I'd like to be able to spend LESS money with your company. I'd like you to grant me a waiver from your rules so that I can start paying you less."
What would you say?
I can see receiving a favor if you're upgrading to a more expensive plan. Or if the company honestly believes that you're going to leave.
But, despite the notorious churn in the wireless industry, the number of people that leave over matters like this is surprisingly low. Most people change carriers in order to get a specific phone or because of a specific rate plan.
Sprint, who loses more customers than any of the big players, recently realized this. They've tightened up their policy on favors and, so far, they've found that they've been able to be a better performing business because of it. Go figure.
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by Donald C. Posted Wed July 15, 2009 @ 1:53 PM
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Yeah, you're probably right about Sprint. The thing that upsets me here is that Verizon has people sign a 2 year contract with the understanding that NE2 comes up every 22 months. So they're trying to create an incentive for people to sign a new contract every 22 months or so. That's exactly what I want to do. If they want me to sign a new contract, then we are agreeing to expire the previous one. I'm not willing to pay an ETF fee for a line on an expired contract. If they want my business for the next 2 years, they should waive that fee. If they choose not to, that's ok as well, but there's no incentive for me to upgrade. Verizon and I will just part ways in a few months and I'll get new phones on another network.
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Really?
by Just Jeffrey Wed July 15, 2009 @ 5:03 PM
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Wed July 15, 2009 @ 1:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure that if you called Sprint and said you wanted to cancel a line of service that's still under contract, they'd charge you an ETF.
If you're out of contract on at least one phone, then tell them that you want to drop THAT line. You'll lose the phone number, but at least you won't have to the pay the ETF. And there are things you can do to keep your number.
What you should do is renew only the main line and get the Tour. Make sure they don't extend the contact on the other lines. Then, when that 4th line's contract expired, cancel it ETF-free.
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