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Commenting on Planetfeedback

Posted Fri October 2, 2009 5:16 pm, by Venice G. written to PlanetFeedback

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I hesitate to write this letter for fear of the outcome, but I think it's important for everyone who participates in commenting to be aware of the answer.

Are comments now allowed that include but are not limited to speculation, name-calling, insults, letter critiquing, etc.? Also, are commenters now allowed to suggest a rewrite or how to improve a letter?

Be aware that this is not a complaint about any of the recent comments that seem to violate the TOS, and that I am not requesting or suggesting that anything be removed. Since you no longer make exceptions, it just leaves me wondering if these types of comments are now allowed.


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Re: Commenting on Planetfeedback by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 6:47 PM


All the comments are not read? by Donno Mon October 12, 2009 @ 11:57 PM

by Venice Posted Tue October 13, 2009 @ 12:35 AM

I guess I should have said that sooner.

I don't understand how the moderation policy can be enforced fairly if
all comments aren't read, and I also don't understand why all comments
are not read considering there are now so few. I would feel obligated
to at least look at the comments posted on the most recent 25
letters, Top 25 Letters and 15 Minutes of Fame.

What I would really like to know is the method used in choosing which
comments to read if it's not a matter of certain people being flagged.
Is it the luck (or unluck) of the draw?

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by PepperElf Posted Tue October 13, 2009 @ 6:16 PM

i was wondering about people getting flagged...


well maybe not so much as being flagged but... perhaps by human nature
getting "noticed" a little more.

obviously each comment that gets deleted has to be read by a human to
determine if that comment is or is not a violation.

so, because of human nature, it can be very possible for a specific
user to gain an unofficial reputation for being a troublemaker or for
breaking TOS more often than others.

so that person's posts might get read more often... then perhaps a
user with a good reputation who slips in a violation statement once in
a while.

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I think you are right by Venice Tue October 13, 2009 @ 7:38 PM

by RedheadwGlasses Posted Mon October 12, 2009 @ 12:33 PM

I guess I haven't noticed some comments getting pulled but other
rule-breaking comments getting to stay. I rarely see any comment that
I think crosses the TOS line.

This site was much more fun when we could get away with murder. It
also could be very mean and inhospitable.

While the site isn't as fun (for me) as it used to be, it is more
professional. If I think an OP is being a complete tool, I have to be
an adult and find a respectful way to disagree, or I leave the letter
alone (usually the latter, since I don't like to edit myself).

But I don't think this site's responsibility includes providing me and
others with endless hours of entertainment. In fact, if someone were
to want to "buy" the site, I can see that if a buyer were to look a
sample of letters and responses at certains in this site's history,
they may not be interested once they saw some of the content
(including from me).

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I know by Donno Mon October 12, 2009 @ 3:17 PM


I've had a couple of posts disappear from computer glitches by RedheadwGlasses Mon October 12, 2009 @ 3:38 PM


And my frequency here has greatly diminished by RedheadwGlasses Mon October 12, 2009 @ 3:39 PM


The policy has not been relaxed by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 4:50 PM


Somewhere between murder and death by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 5:01 PM


The site is doing fine by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 5:48 PM


We must be looking at different sites by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 6:03 PM


Angela by Brendalala Tue October 13, 2009 @ 12:51 PM
by Scott A. Posted Sat October 10, 2009 @ 8:30 PM

So, this question has been posted on this site for nine days now, and
PlantFeedback hasn't responded yet. Maybe they did so behind the
scenes, but considering the posting is in a public venue about the
very site it's on, a response here is appropriate.

This is not meant to be an insult in any way: I have never seen worse
Customer Service from any other organization. PlantFeedback is clearly
telling the people who bother to come to their site that they don't
care.

At least the average companies that do not care about Customer Service
send a canned reply.

Low rent.

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Scott by Donno Sat October 10, 2009 @ 10:09 PM


If you have feedback by LadyMac Sun October 11, 2009 @ 1:22 PM


I did that months ago by Venice Sun October 11, 2009 @ 5:09 PM


Perhaps it was a breakdown of expectations by LadyMac Sun October 11, 2009 @ 7:36 PM


You tell ME by Venice Sun October 11, 2009 @ 7:54 PM


All feedback by LadyMac Sun October 11, 2009 @ 8:46 PM


I expect... by Venice Sun October 11, 2009 @ 9:03 PM

Venice by Michelle O. Sun October 11, 2009 @ 9:10 PM


Michelle by Venice Sun October 11, 2009 @ 9:23 PM

KT by Michelle O. Sun October 11, 2009 @ 9:54 PM


There is one connection... by Venice Sun October 11, 2009 @ 10:18 PM

feedback from KT by Michelle O. Sun October 11, 2009 @ 11:31 PM

What I find interesting... by franese Mon October 12, 2009 @ 3:08 PM


PFB did indeed respond by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 5:44 PM


The reply I received privately was a form letter by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 6:01 PM

I'm looking for... by franese Mon October 12, 2009 @ 8:36 PM


Why do you need a reply from Pete? by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 8:49 PM


And perhaps you should read Knight's (n/t) by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 8:50 PM


It's obvious that I already did... by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 9:15 PM


And what happens by LadyMac Mon October 12, 2009 @ 9:28 PM


I would be happy to discuss this with Pete by Venice Mon October 12, 2009 @ 9:45 PM


So it's okay by LadyMac Tue October 13, 2009 @ 7:17 AM


Yes by Venice Tue October 13, 2009 @ 8:00 AM


Pete... by Just Jeffrey Tue October 13, 2009 @ 12:55 PM

Pete.... by franese Tue October 13, 2009 @ 1:19 PM


Thanks for an answer... by Venice Tue October 13, 2009 @ 4:25 PM


Is it? by Just Jeffrey Wed October 14, 2009 @ 7:09 AM


It's been obvious for quite a while that he's not involved by Venice Wed October 14, 2009 @ 7:58 AM


by PepperElf Posted Sat October 10, 2009 @ 8:20 AM

i have noticed that some comments I thought would be pulled haven't
yet been touched. (i.e. related to grammar or pointing out where a
letter-writer may have broken the law)


but on the flip side i have seen comments that contain direct attacks
and name calling have been pulled.


maybe they've finally relaxed a little with how things are being
handled.

i think it has something to do with the way things got heated up very
quickly over the blog-moderation notice.

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by Retail Veteran Posted Fri October 9, 2009 @ 10:05 PM

I have had comments deleted in the past. Usually they are ones where I
have politely suggested that the original poster rewrite the letter to
make it more readable. Simple things like punctuation, spelling, etc.


It was my understanding that when a comment is deleted that the
poster of the comment was supposed to be sent an email explaining why
it was deleted. I never received an explanation of why the comments
were deleted.

I agree with you Venice that lately it seems like comments of those
type and worse are being allowed. I have no problem with some of my
comments being deleted but all such similar comments should be deleted
as well. It should be fair and equal.

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Fair and equal by Venice Sat October 10, 2009 @ 2:20 AM


A comment on comments by Donno Sat October 10, 2009 @ 12:13 PM


donno... by PepperElf Sat October 10, 2009 @ 6:36 PM


though don't forget by PepperElf Sat October 10, 2009 @ 8:30 AM
by Knight Posted Fri October 9, 2009 @ 5:19 PM

Oh Venice, here you go again.......

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That's me by Venice Fri October 9, 2009 @ 6:37 PM

by S W. Posted Thu October 8, 2009 @ 6:39 PM

As one of the folks that recently posted a comment about rewriting a
letter that included calling the employees things like "idiots", I
apologize if I've offended anyone.

I am a casual poster here,(obviously, since I am just now seeing this
letter) and thought that constructive criticism was allowed.
Apparently, I am wrong. Although I fail to see how trying to help
someone realize that a well written letter will forward their
complaint more than a really bad letter can be construed as offensive.
If I failed to see this rule in the TOS then it is my fault.

I do have to offer my completely unsolicted opinion on another matter.
This site now has so many posting rules that a score card is needed,
and it's just not worth it.

Combine the interesting posting rules with the ever present tension
and sniping among members, this site has become hard to take
seriously. What a shame!

Somewhere along the line the inmates have taken over the asylum and
it's just not working. If I were Planetfeedback I'd close the whole
thing down, re-vamp things, and start over in rebuilding the site's
creditbility.

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No need to apologize by Venice Thu October 8, 2009 @ 7:02 PM


An observation by Donno Thu October 8, 2009 @ 9:50 PM


I tried not commenting by Venice Fri October 9, 2009 @ 12:34 AM

by Venice Posted Thu October 8, 2009 @ 7:37 AM

I know that I've been told that there have been no changes to the
moderation policy, but I'm still not sure if that includes suggesting
that a letter be rewritten or made clearer. I have seen several
comments to that effect lately that were not removed. Are suggestions
on how to improve a letter now permitted?

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And once again... by franese Thu October 8, 2009 @ 1:12 PM

franese by Michelle O. Thu October 8, 2009 @ 2:28 PM


I already explained why I wrote a letter by Venice Thu October 8, 2009 @ 5:45 PM


Another thing by Venice Thu October 8, 2009 @ 5:55 PM

michelle by jeishere Thu October 8, 2009 @ 5:49 PM

by mary jo Posted Thu October 8, 2009 @ 1:03 AM

Never fear Venice, the censor police at PFB are still out and still
working overtime.

My guess is...its just certain people who are being censored.

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I don't have to guess anymore by Venice Thu October 8, 2009 @ 6:33 AM

I have too by Zan Mon October 12, 2009 @ 7:20 AM


"Guess" by Donno Thu October 8, 2009 @ 9:04 AM

venice by b d. Sat October 10, 2009 @ 8:23 PM

by Michelle O. Posted Sat October 3, 2009 @ 2:33 AM

Venice, if there is a comment that you feel is inappropriate, why
wouldn't you simply shoot an email to Greg to delete it? What could
you possibly hope to accomplish by posting this letter? Really. I
don't for one minute believe that you honestly think that "comments
now allowed that include but are not limited to speculation,
name-calling, insults, letter critiquing, etc.?"

This letter really comes across as an attempt to stir the pot so to
speak. Have things been too calm? I have noticed a bunch of new
names lately - maybe they need to be sucked into the drama filled
whirlpool that was the TOS debate.

Hopefully Greg will respond so that everyone who participates in
commenting can have things be ever so much more clear than the TOS
makes them.

wow.


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Actually by Donno Sat October 3, 2009 @ 8:48 AM


I'll explain by Venice Sat October 3, 2009 @ 8:53 AM




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