|
|
Security Verification Going A Little Too Far at Household Bank
Posted Wed November 4, 2009 12:00 pm, by Shaun B. written to Household Bank
Write a Letter to this Company
To Whom It May Concern:
I recently began using my HSBC Mastercard again after a long period of inactivity and a zero balance as my cat and I both incurred some unexpected medical bills I did not have sufficient savings for. A short time later I recieved a notice that a security hold had been placed on my account because of the change in spending pattern. A minor annoyance, but I recognize why it was done and I commend your company for keeping a close eye on what could have been someone stealing my card.
My problem comes in when I called in to get the security block removed. I called in from the phone number tied to the card, which your system recognized. I was transferred to your Fraud prevention department where I provided, when asked:
My full name
My billing address
My full social security number
I was then told I would be asked some 'additional' verification questions. These entailed:
Being given four random addresses from the city I had lived in before moving to Seattle and verifying if I had lived at any of them (which I answered correctly).
Being given four car models and years and asking if I had ever owned or co-signed on any of them (which I answered correctly).
Being given four random addresses from the city I had lived in just after graduating high school and asking if I had ever lived at any of them.
THIS is where I have the problem. You asked me to verify addresses from approximately 20 years ago, during a time period where I was moving to a new apartment every year when the lease was up (college town, there was always a better deal than the renewal the landlord would offer). I don't remember. I dont keep records from that far back and honestly? That city had so many similar street names I cant be sure which was what (Example: Park Row, Park Row Hill, Park Hill, Hillpark Dr, and so on).
Because I could not answer this last question, your company refuses to take the security hold off of my account. Trust me, if someone had managed to steal everything else I gave you AND broke into my house to make the call from the associated phone line...access to my credit card is the last of my problems.
Please respond with how we can get this rectified. If you do not wish to remove the block with the information I've already provided, then I simply wont be using the card anymore. I WILL NOT be sending in additional paperwork to verify my identity. I'd say close my account, but since you can't verify my ID, I guess you can't do that, right? Technically you can't even tell me what I can do in response to THIS letter, right??
Reply
| Log In/Create an account | 23 comments |
|
|
| PlanetFeedback Comments are subject to strict terms and conditions. We reserve the right to deny site membership privileges to any individuals acting inappropriately. |
 |
 |
 |
|
|
by impy Posted Wed November 18, 2009 @ 10:43 AM
|
|
|
Well, its been 2 weeks and no response from HSBC, not that I had much hope of it, so the card is cut up. Should be able to pay the account off next month, and then will be requesting the account be closed.
Reply
|
|
 |
|
by Horsetuna Posted Tue November 10, 2009 @ 9:45 PM
|
|
|
I agree, that's very rediculous! I can't even remember my address from THREE years ago!
I understand the need for security, but twenty years ago?? Next they'll want the first boy you made love with and how many kisses he gave you on the first date. And what color the couch was.
Reply
|
|
 |
|
|
|
It may seem absurd but you would be the first to complain when someone stole your card and they didn't verify ID ... thats why they have it.
Reply
|
|
|
|

|
|
|
 |
|

|
by Donno Posted Wed November 4, 2009 @ 10:04 PM
|
|
|
But I can recognize every address I ever lived at. 3 in MD, 1 in CA, 1 in FL, 1 in TN, 3 in NY, 4 in NJ, 2 in PA.
Reply
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

|
Ditto
by Cor H. Thu November 5, 2009 @ 1:19 PM
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|
|
Credit cards are so worth it! lol
Good Day
Reply
|
|
 |
|
|
|
I agree 100%. This is absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.
If only these banks had applied similar due diligence when they were throwing mortgage loans and other credit lines at anybody who wanted one.
Reply
|
|
|
|
|
|

|
|
|
 |
|
|
 |
|
|
by Steve OH (IO) Posted Wed November 4, 2009 @ 4:21 PM
|
|
|
blood type of your 2nd landlord's wife's boss or something equally ridiculous. I think Jeff's suggestion is good - give you the option of speaking with a real person, one who would understand that addresses from 20 years ago aren't etched on our memories.
Good luck.
Reply
|
|

|

|
However...
by Just Jeffrey Wed November 4, 2009 @ 4:36 PM
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|

|
by PepperElf Posted Wed November 4, 2009 @ 3:23 PM
|
|
|
i went through pretty much the same process when i had money wired
as well as when i had a replacement birth certificate issued
i understand the issue with trying to verify old addresses and data.
for the most part i just went by the city and state and if "none of above" was the right answer that's what i said.*
* case in point, there's another woman out there with the exact same name i have, some one of her addresses pop up on my questions. i suspect they do that to make sure it's not just some crazy person who got ahold of the data online or from zabasearch and is trying to use it to hack.
best thing i can recommend is trying to go to the bank associated with the card in person.
i would also recommend bringing various forms of ID
including DL, birth certificate, SSN card, etc...
(tho you might want to call ahead or something like that to see what hthey require)
Reply
|
|
|
|
|
|

|
|
|
 |
|

|
by Just Jeffrey Posted Wed November 4, 2009 @ 2:37 PM
|
|
|
This is a security scheme that it being used more and more by automated verification systems. For example, Virginia uses this when applying to get a copy of a birth certificate.
Thing is, the old way of doing verification -- social security number, mother's maiden name, etc. -- is no longer useful before that information is just too well known. However, asking several questions compiled from several databases is supposed to work better.
You raise a valid point about how this can fail to work. What a company should do is offer the option to reach a live human. Yes, you might need to take additional steps to verify who you are.
Keep in mind that the credit card company bears the cost of fraud, not you. Because of this, they need to take steps so that THEY are comfortable.
In other words, this isn't about you. It's about them. If you don't want to play, then you don't need to use credit.
Reply
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|