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MR. BEZOS AND YOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICE DOESN'T CARE WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH

Posted Wed December 9, 2009 12:00 pm, by E S. written to Amazon.com, Inc.

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It's much too long to explain it all and you already know the details, Mr. Bezos. You know what I have gone through and you got to do your dirty work, even though I wrote you directly at She has not budged one bit since we first wrote each other. IN fact, she left me a LONG DISTANCE NUMBER which disallows collect calls, and expected ME to pay it.

To mention some of the things your amazon.ca site did wrong:

1. Tracking said my 4 CDs and DVD were delivered when it wasn't. Led me to worry someone else had it. I ended up getting it the next day.

2. Gift notes are put on a packing slip. I NEVER noticed the ""learn more" button which is easy to miss when there is so much info on the order page. I wrote 3 gift notes for 3 gift recipients and amazon.ca and YOU, thinks gift givers should SHOW OUR PACKING SLIP TO THOSE WE GIVE GIFTS TOO. Caps for emphasis throughout this.

3. I ordered an item that was in stock but due to our dispute, it became out of stock. Other items went up in price, one from $17.99
increased to $40.49 in a day. refused to adjust the price, even though amazon.com cost the delay. After making me wait and me asking repeatedly IF you will get the CD I am waiting for,said I should wait and if it isn't available amazon.ca will let me know eventually. She told me I would have to wait until after Christmas and could find out you can't get it.

That's only SOME of the issues, as you know.

I let know that I had to order the CD from a company that actually has the CD in stock. Your company will likely not get it since it is discontinued (I found out from researching). I wanted your company to pay me the difference so it wouldn't cost me extra for the fact your company won't be getting it for a long time (chances are not at all). hasn't budged and in fact, I can't login to my account. That's the second time today so not sure what's going on.


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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 11:16 PM

there's always skype?

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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:49 PM

irony or irony

i just received a package from amazon that i didn't order
but it's not amazon's fault.

i think the guy who ordered it use to live here. he must have picked
my address from the list without actually paying attention.

but i went to amazon's contact us page, clicked the phone button,
entered in my phone number ... and they called me right away.

so now i have a return shipping label in my email and i'll be sending
the package back tomorrow morning.


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I'm happy for you by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 10:03 PM


it just made me think of the post by PepperElf Fri December 11, 2009 @ 11:15 PM

Nice when there's a happy ending n/t by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 11:23 PM


by Just Jeffrey Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:17 PM

(1) Very few CEOs actually respond to customers. Particularly for what
are all routine customer service issues. That doesn't minimize the
important to the customer, but for a CEO to be effective they cannot
possibly deal with every customer that had a problem with shipping,
gift notes, out of stock issues, or pricing issues. As important as
these are to you, I assume that you never actually believed that this
would be handled by Jeff Bezos himself, nor would be even read a copy
of your complaint.

(2) , I presume, is employed there specifically to deal with customer
service issues. Again, the CEO's job cannot be to deal with every
customer. If he did, he'd never be able to get anything else done.
It's not "dirty work" to have someone assigned to customer service (or
several, since it does take more than one person to handle such a
job).

(3) Many large companies, certainly of the size of amazon, have
toll-free (at least within the US, if not North America) numbers to
reach customer service staff. Not just the standard customer service
number, but to reach specialists like . However, not all do. I don't
think that this was a trick, however, to make you go away. I think
it's just that someone made the (perhaps wrong) call not to provide
with a toll free number. That said, one thing you can do is call her,
say "I don't want to pay for this call, please call me back." Given
that she's already reached out to you, I'd expect that she's agree to
call you back such that you don't have to pay more than a minute or so
of the call.

(4) As for the delivery tracking issue, I agree that amazon.ca (as far
as I can tell) doesn't tell you the name of the delivery company. That
would lead me to assume it was Canada Post. Was it? I am totally
ignorant of postal laws in Canada, but I wonder if there might be some
reason why amazon.ca would be required to use Canada Post or a
specific private delivery company to be in compliance with the law?

(5) It is lousy to be told that your package was delivered when it was
not. Have you discovered why this happened? As a practical matter,
asking the delivery company will likely be the best way of getting an
answer. No sense in having righteous indignation against amazon when,
what you really want is to find out why the delivery company told
amazon that the package was delivered when this was not the case.
There could, you know, be a totally logical explanation.

(6) Possible regulations aside, it's important to let a company know
that their delivery company has failed, such that the company can made
a decision about whether to switch delivery companies. However, just
because one customer had something go wrong does not immediate say
that the delivery company is unacceptable and that amazon.ca bears the
responsibility. Remember, they were the ones that were lied to. They
simply passed along the information they were provided.

(7) As for the gift notes, let me ask: what did you really expect? No
where does it ask you questions like "what color card would you like?"
or "pick a font for the writing" or anything of the sort. Which means,
it's "you get what you get." While someone that's never ordered a gift
from amazon before might not have any idea what would happen (and
amazon could do better about saying), clearly you formed a picture in
your head about what a "gift message" is. That image was something YOU
created, not amazon. They failed in that they left it up to your
imagination. However, in the end, they did deliver what they promised,
which was a "message."

If having a particular card is important to you, best to arrange for
it yourself. Why leave it up to a store to select a card for you?

Anyway, as someone who has sent and received amazon gifts, I'm used to
these gift messages. When I send something directly to someone, they
can see on the packing slip (on which I can request no prices) my
message. For people that I care more about than letting them receive
my message on a packing slip, I call them. I send them a card. I have
the item shipped to me, I wrap it and enclose my own card or
handwritten note, and then mail it to the recipient.

(8) On your #3, I miss how the dispute made something go out of stock.
Both of your other complaints are about something you actually
received. Did you have another issue where you failed to order
something because of a dispute?

In any case, when something is out of stock, amazon can do little for
you, other than to get it in stock. Sometimes, a business will agree
to extend the discount, especially if you ask up-front. But not
always. High volume businesses like amazon often won't do this, but
it's worth calling and asking... while the item is still on sale (not
after). You may have done this and maybe their refusal to ship the CD
immediately or give you the discount whenever it arrives was the
dispute?

Anyway, while there may be some things that didn't go as you wanted, I
see nothing that seems like amazon did anything wrong. Further, the
fact that they had someone () contact you directly shows that they are
clearly trying to understand your issues and perhaps help resolve
them. But, in reading your letter, it seems like you don't need any
resolution because there is nothing to resolve. The thing you're
asking is for them to pay you the difference between what they sell
the CD for and what you paid (which you did, I'm assuming, on your own
accord). Do you know any business that will, when you say you
purchased elsewhere for more money, pay you? Who does this?

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Addressing your points by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:09 PM
by Knight Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 2:21 AM

The gift notes are sent to the receiver of the package. If you had
sent the 3 gifts to 3 different people at 3 different addresses then
each one of them would have gotten a separate gift note. Instead, you
had all of the packages sent to you at a single address. Therefore,
the gift notes were all on the same packaging slip.

The purpose of the gift note is to send a message to someone when you
purchase something and Amazon sends it directly to the receiver of the
gift. They are not meant to be used if you are going to have the gifts
delivered to yourself and then you are going to distribute the gifts.

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There should be an error message by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:42 PM


Question by Just Jeffrey Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:44 PM

Gift Notes Aren't Attached To Each Gift by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 3:07 PM


Then why do gift notes at all? by RedheadwGlasses Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:02 PM

I agree by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:22 PM


No, it's not. by Just Jeffrey Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:47 PM

Packing slips shouldn't be shown to gift recipients by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 7:48 PM


The packing slips are not shown by fairywithfangs Fri December 11, 2009 @ 9:29 PM

Gift notes make no sense if more than 1 gift recipient by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 9:54 PM

Clarification by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 9:58 PM


"I didn't realize the distinction until after" by Just Jeffrey Sat December 12, 2009 @ 7:29 AM

Read what I wrote below n/t by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 2:57 PM


There would be many times when the by fairywithfangs Sat December 12, 2009 @ 11:35 AM

Clarification by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 3:01 PM


Once again... by Just Jeffrey Sat December 12, 2009 @ 7:24 AM

Explaining things once again by E S. Mon December 14, 2009 @ 1:03 PM


"it makes no sense" by Just Jeffrey Mon December 14, 2009 @ 2:45 PM

Let's Agree To Disagree by E S. Mon December 14, 2009 @ 2:55 PM


So, you agree... by Just Jeffrey Mon December 14, 2009 @ 6:44 PM

by PepperElf Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:38 PM

um...

i only asked you what companies you've seen do this.


and i don't like to email people here. in fact the only people here
who have my email is pfb itself cos i had to use it to register.

as for calling companies up...
this isn't a service i've ever asked for.

i simply asked what companies you've seen do this, since you've stated
that you have seen it.

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We have to respect each other by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:43 PM


*shrug* by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:48 PM

Thanks for your input by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:30 AM


sellers by PepperElf Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:34 AM

I bought from Amazon's own stock by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:38 AM


Re: MR. BEZOS AND YOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICE DOESN'T CARE WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:46 AM

Amazon provides poor customer service even at head office by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 1:47 PM


Still by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 2:30 PM

Amazon takes no responsiblity for anything ever by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 2:46 PM


I give up by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 4:02 PM

Amazon Is A Lousy Company by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 5:01 PM


so how do you want amazon to fix the shipping company?... by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:03 PM

Switch couriers by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:16 PM


so.... by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:52 PM

I would pass on savings to my customer by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 8:11 PM


you know of companies that do this? n/t by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 8:57 PM

Absolutely by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:03 PM

What does n/t mean? by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:04 PM


n/t = no text. ... so you don't have to click on the link here to see what's inside cos.. there isn't anything there . Yes this is n/t too =) by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:58 PM

Thanks n/t by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:12 PM

by PepperElf Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:59 PM


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by E S. Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:14 PM

I'm not sure it would be a good idea to start saying names here. I
don't want others to start discussing other companies or I'll have to
give up my day job to respond. lol

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they don't have private messages here and i never use the blogs sorry n/t by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:16 PM


plus the blogs aren't private anyway n/t by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:19 PM

There should be a way to communicate by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:21 PM


i prefer using this really by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:28 PM

Not necessarily by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:11 PM

Re: Not necessarily by Knight Fri December 11, 2009 @ 2:25 AM

Shared Letters by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:35 PM


This is an assumption many make by Just Jeffrey Sat December 12, 2009 @ 8:24 AM

Let's agree to disagree by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 3:19 PM


The site is what it is by Donno Sat December 12, 2009 @ 1:50 PM


Donno by Just Jeffrey Sun December 13, 2009 @ 7:51 AM

All companies have some satisfied customers or they wouldn't be in business by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 3:23 PM


Depends by Just Jeffrey Sat December 12, 2009 @ 8:39 AM

Shipping compensation by E S. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 3:13 PM

to reply with no text by Michelle O. Sun December 13, 2009 @ 11:10 PM

Thanks Michelle by E S. Mon December 14, 2009 @ 12:13 AM
by E S. Posted Wed December 9, 2009 @ 5:24 PM

Sorry, I forgot to add that amazon prices aren't good. The item at
Amazon that was $17.99 and went to $40.45, I ended up buying at a
store near me for only $13.99. I was also going to get a movie that
was $12.49 at amazon and I ended up paying $9.99. So,besides their
nonexistent customer service,their prices can be easily beat if you
search the internet or go to a local store.

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"amazon prices aren't good" by Donno Wed December 9, 2009 @ 6:05 PM

You've been lucky by E S. Wed December 9, 2009 @ 8:14 PM

If you wanted it at that price... by Kalphoenix Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:53 PM

Stay away from purchasing at Amazon by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 8:21 PM




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