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MR. BEZOS AND YOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICE DOESN'T CARE WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH
Posted Wed December 9, 2009 12:00 pm, by E S. written to Amazon.com, Inc.
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It's much too long to explain it all and you already know the details, Mr. Bezos. You know what I have gone through and you got to do your dirty work, even though I wrote you directly at She has not budged one bit since we first wrote each other. IN fact, she left me a LONG DISTANCE NUMBER which disallows collect calls, and expected ME to pay it.
To mention some of the things your amazon.ca site did wrong:
1. Tracking said my 4 CDs and DVD were delivered when it wasn't. Led me to worry someone else had it. I ended up getting it the next day.
2. Gift notes are put on a packing slip. I NEVER noticed the ""learn more" button which is easy to miss when there is so much info on the order page. I wrote 3 gift notes for 3 gift recipients and amazon.ca and YOU, thinks gift givers should SHOW OUR PACKING SLIP TO THOSE WE GIVE GIFTS TOO. Caps for emphasis throughout this.
3. I ordered an item that was in stock but due to our dispute, it became out of stock. Other items went up in price, one from $17.99
increased to $40.49 in a day. refused to adjust the price, even though amazon.com cost the delay. After making me wait and me asking repeatedly IF you will get the CD I am waiting for,said I should wait and if it isn't available amazon.ca will let me know eventually. She told me I would have to wait until after Christmas and could find out you can't get it.
That's only SOME of the issues, as you know.
I let know that I had to order the CD from a company that actually has the CD in stock. Your company will likely not get it since it is discontinued (I found out from researching). I wanted your company to pay me the difference so it wouldn't cost me extra for the fact your company won't be getting it for a long time (chances are not at all). hasn't budged and in fact, I can't login to my account. That's the second time today so not sure what's going on.
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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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there's always skype?
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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:49 PM
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irony or irony
i just received a package from amazon that i didn't order
but it's not amazon's fault.
i think the guy who ordered it use to live here. he must have picked my address from the list without actually paying attention.
but i went to amazon's contact us page, clicked the phone button, entered in my phone number ... and they called me right away.
so now i have a return shipping label in my email and i'll be sending the package back tomorrow morning.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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(1) Very few CEOs actually respond to customers. Particularly for what are all routine customer service issues. That doesn't minimize the important to the customer, but for a CEO to be effective they cannot possibly deal with every customer that had a problem with shipping, gift notes, out of stock issues, or pricing issues. As important as these are to you, I assume that you never actually believed that this would be handled by Jeff Bezos himself, nor would be even read a copy of your complaint.
(2) , I presume, is employed there specifically to deal with customer service issues. Again, the CEO's job cannot be to deal with every customer. If he did, he'd never be able to get anything else done. It's not "dirty work" to have someone assigned to customer service (or several, since it does take more than one person to handle such a job).
(3) Many large companies, certainly of the size of amazon, have toll-free (at least within the US, if not North America) numbers to reach customer service staff. Not just the standard customer service number, but to reach specialists like . However, not all do. I don't think that this was a trick, however, to make you go away. I think it's just that someone made the (perhaps wrong) call not to provide with a toll free number. That said, one thing you can do is call her, say "I don't want to pay for this call, please call me back." Given that she's already reached out to you, I'd expect that she's agree to call you back such that you don't have to pay more than a minute or so of the call.
(4) As for the delivery tracking issue, I agree that amazon.ca (as far as I can tell) doesn't tell you the name of the delivery company. That would lead me to assume it was Canada Post. Was it? I am totally ignorant of postal laws in Canada, but I wonder if there might be some reason why amazon.ca would be required to use Canada Post or a specific private delivery company to be in compliance with the law?
(5) It is lousy to be told that your package was delivered when it was not. Have you discovered why this happened? As a practical matter, asking the delivery company will likely be the best way of getting an answer. No sense in having righteous indignation against amazon when, what you really want is to find out why the delivery company told amazon that the package was delivered when this was not the case. There could, you know, be a totally logical explanation.
(6) Possible regulations aside, it's important to let a company know that their delivery company has failed, such that the company can made a decision about whether to switch delivery companies. However, just because one customer had something go wrong does not immediate say that the delivery company is unacceptable and that amazon.ca bears the responsibility. Remember, they were the ones that were lied to. They simply passed along the information they were provided.
(7) As for the gift notes, let me ask: what did you really expect? No where does it ask you questions like "what color card would you like?" or "pick a font for the writing" or anything of the sort. Which means, it's "you get what you get." While someone that's never ordered a gift from amazon before might not have any idea what would happen (and amazon could do better about saying), clearly you formed a picture in your head about what a "gift message" is. That image was something YOU created, not amazon. They failed in that they left it up to your imagination. However, in the end, they did deliver what they promised, which was a "message."
If having a particular card is important to you, best to arrange for it yourself. Why leave it up to a store to select a card for you?
Anyway, as someone who has sent and received amazon gifts, I'm used to these gift messages. When I send something directly to someone, they can see on the packing slip (on which I can request no prices) my message. For people that I care more about than letting them receive my message on a packing slip, I call them. I send them a card. I have the item shipped to me, I wrap it and enclose my own card or handwritten note, and then mail it to the recipient.
(8) On your #3, I miss how the dispute made something go out of stock. Both of your other complaints are about something you actually received. Did you have another issue where you failed to order something because of a dispute?
In any case, when something is out of stock, amazon can do little for you, other than to get it in stock. Sometimes, a business will agree to extend the discount, especially if you ask up-front. But not always. High volume businesses like amazon often won't do this, but it's worth calling and asking... while the item is still on sale (not after). You may have done this and maybe their refusal to ship the CD immediately or give you the discount whenever it arrives was the dispute?
Anyway, while there may be some things that didn't go as you wanted, I see nothing that seems like amazon did anything wrong. Further, the fact that they had someone () contact you directly shows that they are clearly trying to understand your issues and perhaps help resolve them. But, in reading your letter, it seems like you don't need any resolution because there is nothing to resolve. The thing you're asking is for them to pay you the difference between what they sell the CD for and what you paid (which you did, I'm assuming, on your own accord). Do you know any business that will, when you say you purchased elsewhere for more money, pay you? Who does this?
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by Knight Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 2:21 AM
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The gift notes are sent to the receiver of the package. If you had sent the 3 gifts to 3 different people at 3 different addresses then each one of them would have gotten a separate gift note. Instead, you had all of the packages sent to you at a single address. Therefore, the gift notes were all on the same packaging slip.
The purpose of the gift note is to send a message to someone when you purchase something and Amazon sends it directly to the receiver of the gift. They are not meant to be used if you are going to have the gifts delivered to yourself and then you are going to distribute the gifts.
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by Just Jeffrey Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:44 PM
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I agree
by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:22 PM
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by PepperElf Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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um...
i only asked you what companies you've seen do this.
and i don't like to email people here. in fact the only people here who have my email is pfb itself cos i had to use it to register.
as for calling companies up...
this isn't a service i've ever asked for.
i simply asked what companies you've seen do this, since you've stated that you have seen it.
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*shrug*
by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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sellers
by PepperElf Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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Still
by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 2:30 PM
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I give up
by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 4:02 PM
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so....
by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:52 PM
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Absolutely
by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:03 PM
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Thanks n/t
by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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by E S. Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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I never thought that telling my bad experience at Amazon would have people attack me so how am I to know what saying other company names would do? People could write disagreeing and then I would have to defend myself again. No thanks.
I have an idea since it seems you are shocked when good courier companies have this policy. How about calling up some in your area and ask them what they would do to compensate you if something happens that shouldn't have. The response you'll get, unless things are weird in the USA is, they would pay back the shipping charges to the sender (actually that assumes the sender paid the courier directly as Amazon does). They don't do anything for the receiver so a good sender would then turn around and give compensation to the receiver. That's how it works here.
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by Knight Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 2:25 AM
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If you feel like you are being attacked don't respond. You are not required to defend yourself here. Better yet, send your letter and don't even read the comments. Or send you letter and don't post it for the public to read. Problem solved!!! :)
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Donno
by Just Jeffrey Sun December 13, 2009 @ 7:51 AM
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Sat December 12, 2009 @ 8:39 AM
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I'll speak from experience.
When a courier violates their agreement with a shipper, they will refund the shippers money. However, what constitutes a violation isn't every little thing.
If a courier loses a package, they provide compensation to the shipper. However, this compensation is rarely more than the value of the contents and the shipping cost. They do not pay an extra "we're sorry payment."
Which means when an end-customer doesn't get their package, the original shipper can do no more that give the buyer their money back. Not without dipping into their own pockets. Which some businesses will do. But not all. A company like amazon, in my experience, might offer coupons, but not always.
However, in a case like you have, there is rarely compensation to anyone. The fact that the courier reported that the package was delivered, when it wasn't, is unlikely to result in amazon getting any money back.
Plus, we don't know why this happened. Did the delivery person lie, claiming he delivered the package in order to meet his quota? If so, the courier company has an HR issue to resolve.
Was someone miskeyed into a computer?
Was the package misdelivered?
Does "delivered" actually mean that the end-customer (you) received it? Case in point: in the US, amazon offers free shipping on certain orders. If the customer chooses this, the order is sent through an unusual system involving multiple couriers and batching of packages. Some of the couriers involved in the transport of a particular package don't have sophisticated tracking. For example, the package might be sent from amazon via UPS, which provided tracking information to amazon. But UPS doesn't actually deliver to the end-customer. They deliver it to a regional US Postal Service office. Where it might sit for days, waiting for more packages. The USPS doesn't provide detailed tracking, so there is no communication back to amazon that it's sitting in a regional office, much less that it was transferred to the local post office. Only when it gets to the final customer is UPS notified that the package was delivered. At which point, UPS provides a SECOND "delivered" message.
I've had this. I have packages (received one yesterday, in fact) which had two "delivered" messages for this very reason.
In your case, there is no evidence that amazon received any compensation.
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by E S. Posted Wed December 9, 2009 @ 5:24 PM
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Sorry, I forgot to add that amazon prices aren't good. The item at Amazon that was $17.99 and went to $40.45, I ended up buying at a store near me for only $13.99. I was also going to get a movie that was $12.49 at amazon and I ended up paying $9.99. So,besides their nonexistent customer service,their prices can be easily beat if you search the internet or go to a local store.
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