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MR. BEZOS AND YOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICE DOESN'T CARE WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH
Posted Wed December 9, 2009 12:00 pm, by E S. written to Amazon.com, Inc.
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It's much too long to explain it all and you already know the details, Mr. Bezos. You know what I have gone through and you got to do your dirty work, even though I wrote you directly at She has not budged one bit since we first wrote each other. IN fact, she left me a LONG DISTANCE NUMBER which disallows collect calls, and expected ME to pay it.
To mention some of the things your amazon.ca site did wrong:
1. Tracking said my 4 CDs and DVD were delivered when it wasn't. Led me to worry someone else had it. I ended up getting it the next day.
2. Gift notes are put on a packing slip. I NEVER noticed the ""learn more" button which is easy to miss when there is so much info on the order page. I wrote 3 gift notes for 3 gift recipients and amazon.ca and YOU, thinks gift givers should SHOW OUR PACKING SLIP TO THOSE WE GIVE GIFTS TOO. Caps for emphasis throughout this.
3. I ordered an item that was in stock but due to our dispute, it became out of stock. Other items went up in price, one from $17.99
increased to $40.49 in a day. refused to adjust the price, even though amazon.com cost the delay. After making me wait and me asking repeatedly IF you will get the CD I am waiting for,said I should wait and if it isn't available amazon.ca will let me know eventually. She told me I would have to wait until after Christmas and could find out you can't get it.
That's only SOME of the issues, as you know.
I let know that I had to order the CD from a company that actually has the CD in stock. Your company will likely not get it since it is discontinued (I found out from researching). I wanted your company to pay me the difference so it wouldn't cost me extra for the fact your company won't be getting it for a long time (chances are not at all). hasn't budged and in fact, I can't login to my account. That's the second time today so not sure what's going on.
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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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there's always skype?
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by PepperElf Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:49 PM
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irony or irony
i just received a package from amazon that i didn't order
but it's not amazon's fault.
i think the guy who ordered it use to live here. he must have picked my address from the list without actually paying attention.
but i went to amazon's contact us page, clicked the phone button, entered in my phone number ... and they called me right away.
so now i have a return shipping label in my email and i'll be sending the package back tomorrow morning.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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(1) Very few CEOs actually respond to customers. Particularly for what are all routine customer service issues. That doesn't minimize the important to the customer, but for a CEO to be effective they cannot possibly deal with every customer that had a problem with shipping, gift notes, out of stock issues, or pricing issues. As important as these are to you, I assume that you never actually believed that this would be handled by Jeff Bezos himself, nor would be even read a copy of your complaint.
(2) , I presume, is employed there specifically to deal with customer service issues. Again, the CEO's job cannot be to deal with every customer. If he did, he'd never be able to get anything else done. It's not "dirty work" to have someone assigned to customer service (or several, since it does take more than one person to handle such a job).
(3) Many large companies, certainly of the size of amazon, have toll-free (at least within the US, if not North America) numbers to reach customer service staff. Not just the standard customer service number, but to reach specialists like . However, not all do. I don't think that this was a trick, however, to make you go away. I think it's just that someone made the (perhaps wrong) call not to provide with a toll free number. That said, one thing you can do is call her, say "I don't want to pay for this call, please call me back." Given that she's already reached out to you, I'd expect that she's agree to call you back such that you don't have to pay more than a minute or so of the call.
(4) As for the delivery tracking issue, I agree that amazon.ca (as far as I can tell) doesn't tell you the name of the delivery company. That would lead me to assume it was Canada Post. Was it? I am totally ignorant of postal laws in Canada, but I wonder if there might be some reason why amazon.ca would be required to use Canada Post or a specific private delivery company to be in compliance with the law?
(5) It is lousy to be told that your package was delivered when it was not. Have you discovered why this happened? As a practical matter, asking the delivery company will likely be the best way of getting an answer. No sense in having righteous indignation against amazon when, what you really want is to find out why the delivery company told amazon that the package was delivered when this was not the case. There could, you know, be a totally logical explanation.
(6) Possible regulations aside, it's important to let a company know that their delivery company has failed, such that the company can made a decision about whether to switch delivery companies. However, just because one customer had something go wrong does not immediate say that the delivery company is unacceptable and that amazon.ca bears the responsibility. Remember, they were the ones that were lied to. They simply passed along the information they were provided.
(7) As for the gift notes, let me ask: what did you really expect? No where does it ask you questions like "what color card would you like?" or "pick a font for the writing" or anything of the sort. Which means, it's "you get what you get." While someone that's never ordered a gift from amazon before might not have any idea what would happen (and amazon could do better about saying), clearly you formed a picture in your head about what a "gift message" is. That image was something YOU created, not amazon. They failed in that they left it up to your imagination. However, in the end, they did deliver what they promised, which was a "message."
If having a particular card is important to you, best to arrange for it yourself. Why leave it up to a store to select a card for you?
Anyway, as someone who has sent and received amazon gifts, I'm used to these gift messages. When I send something directly to someone, they can see on the packing slip (on which I can request no prices) my message. For people that I care more about than letting them receive my message on a packing slip, I call them. I send them a card. I have the item shipped to me, I wrap it and enclose my own card or handwritten note, and then mail it to the recipient.
(8) On your #3, I miss how the dispute made something go out of stock. Both of your other complaints are about something you actually received. Did you have another issue where you failed to order something because of a dispute?
In any case, when something is out of stock, amazon can do little for you, other than to get it in stock. Sometimes, a business will agree to extend the discount, especially if you ask up-front. But not always. High volume businesses like amazon often won't do this, but it's worth calling and asking... while the item is still on sale (not after). You may have done this and maybe their refusal to ship the CD immediately or give you the discount whenever it arrives was the dispute?
Anyway, while there may be some things that didn't go as you wanted, I see nothing that seems like amazon did anything wrong. Further, the fact that they had someone () contact you directly shows that they are clearly trying to understand your issues and perhaps help resolve them. But, in reading your letter, it seems like you don't need any resolution because there is nothing to resolve. The thing you're asking is for them to pay you the difference between what they sell the CD for and what you paid (which you did, I'm assuming, on your own accord). Do you know any business that will, when you say you purchased elsewhere for more money, pay you? Who does this?
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by E S. Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:09 PM
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Concerning your points:
1) No, I definitely didn't expect him to read my e-mails initially. When things became unresolved, yes, it would have been nice if he had. Am I shocked he didn't, no.
2) I have never seen a less competent executive assistant and one so unwilling to help out. In many respects, an executive assistant always does the "dirty work", but I guess I never had to say that since usually executive assistants DO help customers. Ms. Aviv did not.
3) Ms. Aviv sent me an e-mail saying to call her at that long distance number and didn't care when I said that I wasn't going to pay long distance. She didn't offer me any toll-free number so our correspondence was limited to e-mails. I usually prefer e-mails anyhow but because things got out of hand, I wanted to talk to her on the phone but she didn't give me a toll-free number.
4) 100% no chance that they have to use a specific delivery company by law. As far as who they used, I have no idea since the package was left for me in front of my door such that anyone could have taken it. I was not too pleased about that either. I wanted someone to have to sign for it and a bell rung. I probably should have analyzed the box more to see if it showed something but I instead asked Amazon.
5) Amazon told me that sorry this happens sometimes. That was their answer. They weren't surprised. That leads me to believe that it wasn't a rarity which further means they should perhaps be using another courier.
6) I addressed this already if you read all the threads. Basically, the courier is responsible to Amazon and Amazon to the customer. The courier would reimburse Amazon if they did something wrong and Amazon should but doesn't pass on the savings to the customer as compensation.
7) I addressed this already too but basically it isn't about how nice a card or font. I didn't expect anything fancy since I didn't pay for giftwrapping. What I THOUGHT was there would be 3 gift notes attached to each gift I indicated. Just a note. It could have been something very plain. That wasn't the issue. I didn't expect 3 gift notes on 1 packing slip and frankly I find notes on packing slips to be a pretty silly thing. The system should indicate an error when someone has more than 1 gift note since I think it's reasonable that nobody would want more than 1 recipient to read a packing slip with more than 1 message on it. The explanation about packing slips should be on the same page as where we put the gift notes so it can't be missed. I didn't notice that "learn more" button.
8) Ok, I'll explain this again. There was my initial order that I received a day after it said delivered. That is the one with the wrong tracking and gift notes issue. There were things I put in my cart and I was discussing with Ms. Aviv about compensation for what had happened. It was during this time that an item in my cart went from $17.99 to over $40. It wasn't on sale at $17.99, by the way. It was listed as the regular price. I bought it for $13.99 at a store near me so Amazon's price wasn't good.
I had a $15 credit and free expedited shipping from Amazon so I ordered a CD from Amazon. I had it in the cart but since we were still working on things, I didn't proceed to checkout. The product WAS in stock but by the time I realized Amazon won't do the right thing, I decided to just get the CD and be done with them. I proceeded to checkout and it said temporarily out of stock. It was going to cost me nothing since it was $12.99 and I had free shipping. The balance I owed was $0. It is a Christmas gift and I was told on the screen it wouldn't be there by Christmas. Ms. Aviv said it may be. I was going to wait. Then I did research. I found out that the suppliers of this CD don't have it anymore and it's been discontinued. I asked Ms. Aviv repeatedly if I am waiting for something that will never come. She kept ignoring that question. Finally she said, if we find we can't get it, we'll inform you. Wonderful. Since I was told elsewhere that nobody will be able to get it, I knew they were making me wait for nothing.
I had to get it from a store that had it in stock sinc there would be no new stock of this item anywhere. It cost more since I was getting the CD from Amazon at $0. So, yes I expect Amazon to pay the difference since it was SUPPOSED to cost me nothing for this CD and I would have waited for Amazon but they were having me wait for nothing.
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by Knight Posted Fri December 11, 2009 @ 2:21 AM
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The gift notes are sent to the receiver of the package. If you had sent the 3 gifts to 3 different people at 3 different addresses then each one of them would have gotten a separate gift note. Instead, you had all of the packages sent to you at a single address. Therefore, the gift notes were all on the same packaging slip.
The purpose of the gift note is to send a message to someone when you purchase something and Amazon sends it directly to the receiver of the gift. They are not meant to be used if you are going to have the gifts delivered to yourself and then you are going to distribute the gifts.
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by Just Jeffrey Fri December 11, 2009 @ 3:44 PM
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I agree
by E S. Fri December 11, 2009 @ 1:22 PM
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by PepperElf Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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um...
i only asked you what companies you've seen do this.
and i don't like to email people here. in fact the only people here who have my email is pfb itself cos i had to use it to register.
as for calling companies up...
this isn't a service i've ever asked for.
i simply asked what companies you've seen do this, since you've stated that you have seen it.
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*shrug*
by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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sellers
by PepperElf Fri December 11, 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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by NathanG Posted Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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I dont really see what the major issue is. Tracking isnt Amazon its whoever is shipping it. So you cant blame Amazon for the tracking misinformation.
The gift notes issue seems to be a customer didnt read the procedure issue. I have sent gifts many times and never had an issue with the packing slip. Everytime they have arrived giftwrapped with a little note attached with whatever I typed it out to say.
You dont really specify what the issue was where you lost the best price on something. How? did they stop you from buying it? Was it a black friday only special and you waited too long?
I wouldnt accept any business to accept collect calls. Esspecially in this day and age where 99% of phone services give you free nationwide calling.
I have been using Amazon since they were simply a book store, and when I have had an issue they were very fast and very good at fixing it.
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Still
by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 2:30 PM
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I give up
by NathanG Thu December 10, 2009 @ 4:02 PM
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so....
by PepperElf Thu December 10, 2009 @ 7:52 PM
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Absolutely
by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 9:03 PM
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Thanks n/t
by E S. Thu December 10, 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Donno
by Just Jeffrey Sun December 13, 2009 @ 7:51 AM
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Depends
by Just Jeffrey Sat December 12, 2009 @ 8:39 AM
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by E S. Posted Wed December 9, 2009 @ 5:24 PM
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Sorry, I forgot to add that amazon prices aren't good. The item at Amazon that was $17.99 and went to $40.45, I ended up buying at a store near me for only $13.99. I was also going to get a movie that was $12.49 at amazon and I ended up paying $9.99. So,besides their nonexistent customer service,their prices can be easily beat if you search the internet or go to a local store.
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