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I spent nearly 15 years in consumer electronics retail and can say that software, and I am using the term to address software in all it's forms (CD's, DVD's, PC/MAC software, game console games, even books) is covered under FEDERAL Copyright laws. The penalties for violating tnese can be steep. One customer of mine faced almost $250K in fines for improper use of software licenses for their computers; forgetting about the costs involved to resolve the violations. I do not care where you purchsed the software from, even if this is not clearly posted in the store; it is printed in plain english on the back of the receipt/packing slip that opened software can only be exchanged for the SAME item/version/title/platform in the event the original item is defective. This is why it is so important to check the software for system requirements to make sure your computer meets what the software needs to run, at the very least, BEFORE you open it (this will give you an opportunity to rectify the situation before nothing can be done). In the event you purchased the game as a gift without knowing what platform the recipient needed, that person needs to study the package before opening it (many games are available in all platforms, and can be exchenged while still sealed for one that will work).
That said, the policy is not a corporate (Walmart/Target/Best Buy/ whatever) policy. This is actually dictated by federal copyright law.
In the event that the software purchased was wrong, you can always see if you have a friend that can use it and purchase the right version to trade with you; if not, you can choose to donate the game to a local after school program or children's shelter and take the tax credit.
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It's been a standing rule for as long as video games have been around that you can't return an open video game.
Especially with the technology availble now, copying software like this is easier than ever. People would be all over the place buying software, copying it for themselves and whoever else and then returning the used game for a full refund.
Even if theft wasn't an issue, who wants to pay full price for a used game?
You admit that you weren't paying attention. Unfortunately, that inattention is going to cost you.
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This has ALWAYS been THE policy on games, CD's and DVD's - if the box is opened then there is no exhange or refunds. Evidently you have never had to bring one back and are finding this out for the first time.
And I bought a game from Walmart just Christmas week and it had the return policy on the BACK of the receipt clearly stating that NO OPEN PACKAGES of electronic games/CD's or DVD's will be accepted for return or exchange.
Can you imagine if this were allowed how many people would finish with these items and want to exchange or return these?
If you get a receipt that this is not worded then you should ask what the return policy is.
I believe the clerk who said you could bring it back may have assumed that it had not been opened(???).
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by Holly S. Posted Thu December 31, 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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I purchased a game from Walmart on Monday, my kids played it and when they did the game wouldn't read on my Wii, took it back and they said that I couldn't get my money back, had to get the same game that they didn't have. The game was defective and they wouldn't do anything for me. Just called customer service and they would have the manager of that Walmart call me to resolve the problem. I work in retail and we are told to make the customers happy with whatever within reason. This isn't the way to run a business, they don't care as they have run everyone else out.
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Yup but
by NathanG Wed December 30, 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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Actually...
by NathanG Wed December 30, 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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by Mundo Cani D. Posted Wed December 30, 2009 @ 9:13 AM
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What difference does it really make if the policy was posted where the OP could see it or not? The OP still bought the wrong item and the policy is still no returns. How will having the policy posted in a manner that the OP could see it change that? Would the OP have been more attentive to the purchase? If the return policy was such an important consideration in this transaction, why not ask specifically about it at the time?
I think in the end this all boils down to a lesson learned. Walmart certainly did nothing wrong. The OP certainly only made a mistake that we've all made to one degree or another.
Maybe the OP could donate the game to some organization and report it on her taxes, to help recoup some of the money spent. At the very least, maybe the OP could become the greatest player in the world of this particular game.
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by Kalphoenix Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 4:47 PM
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It is posted in all our local businesses that sell DvDs/Games. I remember it being posted in our Wal-Mart as well (though I haven't been in there in years). I DO know this has been pretty standard across the industry for about ten years. But I agree that it needs to be posted SOMEWHERE for the goodwill of patrons.
I'm sorry you made a mistake in opening up the item before realizing it wasn't the item you wanted, but I'm pretty sure they aren't going to let you exchange it for a different product no matter how big of a stink you make about it, even on this technicality.
Probably the BEST you can hope for is that they put the missing signs up. However, despite my strong dislike of the Wal-Mart chain, I still don't think this is some kind of "conspiracy" or that they are "hiding" the policy on purpose. I think it's more likely laziness or an oversight.
I DO know this has been pretty standard across the industry for about ten years. I also realize that there are people who may not "just know" the policy. But whether you know about the policy or not doesn't change the policy, unfortunately.
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by Lisa H. Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 3:43 PM
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I agree, I can't find any law that forbids returning an open game, but I don't know if any store that will take one back for anything other then an exchange of the same title. Game burners and software are out there, a quick Google search brings up a lot of them.
I was in Walmart today, and it was clearly posted in that store.
And really, I don't expect to find highly trained people at Wal-Mart. They carry a lot of products, and I don't think they could have specialists and keep prices low. You yourself got it confused, seems understandable the clerk did. I am wondering if the customer service person you spoke to was also confused about what you wanted.
All said, I don't think Walmart did anything wrong here.
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by Mnemosyne Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 3:33 PM
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I feel bad for you, to be stuck with something you bought by mistake and have no recourse. I absolutely detest Wal-Mart yet notice more and more stores tightening their return policies as well. The US economy is driven by consumer spending, I believe it comprises two-thirds. If people would only stop patronizing stores that treat their customers so egregiously they'd go under...but people just complain and keep shopping even after such bad experiences.
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by Chadg Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 3:29 PM
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I think its safe to say that the majority of consumers understand software/movie/game policies, but, stores should still be required to post them. Majority does not mean everyone, what if you are a "newcomer"? What if you recently converted from Amish? Ok, highly unlikely, but you get the point. The customer cannot be held accountable for information never given to him/her. If the manager truly told you that you could do that exchange, i think it should have been honored. Thats why whenever i run into a situation like that, i get all the info i can, name, title, department, hours, etc.
A couple years ago, i decided to upgrade my PC to Windows Vista (big mistake) my pc met or exceeded all the requirements, but still ran like (you get the idea). I called Staples, where i bought it from, almost expecting them to tell me too bad, but i talked to the manager and respectfully explained the situation, he told me to bring the opened software right in and he would refund me. I got his name and he told me he would be in the next day. He wasnt in, but he was kind enough to leave a note stating who i was, and that an exception was to be made.
But I digress
Being that this is walmart, the service is nothing like what it is at staples, I think you are owed an exchange, AND an explanation that this will be the only time, and that this is policy.
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by Shasolace Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 4:11 PM
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I named the store, location and time (Unfortunately I didn't get names)on several complaint websites. I'm sure they know who the manager was that day and time. WALMART employees screwed up on so many levels. Salesperson, customer service and the manager. They say bad luck come in threes, lol.
I work in customer service. I was telling someone else, I've seen where manufacturers had to rewrite the owner's manual of products because they were sued for common sense incidents. I'm sure you've heard about the lady that sued McDonalds for the hot coffee sign not posted. Common sense or common knowledge is not a law or policy, but companies have lost lawsuits for not posting them. And there really are the few that don't know about video game policies.
It has been a while, but my consin returned a nintendo game that was two years old and got her money back with no receipt at WALMART (lucky I guess).
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Good point
by Donno Tue December 29, 2009 @ 3:10 PM
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I don't own video games and I don't buy movies on DVD, and even *I* know the return policies for these items.
I'm surprised you didn't know it, since you're a gamer.
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Law
by Just Jeffrey Tue December 29, 2009 @ 1:21 PM
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by Donno Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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But is there? If not, is WalMart doing anything wrong?
Here's another question - is that item in salable condition once it has been opened?
Since this policy is common for these videos and software, I don't see why WM or any retailer would need to post it.
You were careless in not only your selection but in opening the item once it was home. As you say, these games aren't cheap. Therefore you need to be careful when buying and handling them.
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by NathanG Posted Tue December 29, 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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This is the policy at EVERY store I know of. Once you open a package you cant return it exect for the same game/movie/software etc.
This is to prevent piracy.
Honestly if you buy a game you should make sure its the correct one. I dont think this is walmarts fault, you should have read the cover.
You can always buy the correct one and sell the other one on ebay or craigslist to get back some money.
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lol
by NathanG Tue December 29, 2009 @ 1:28 PM
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Clarify
by NathanG Tue December 29, 2009 @ 2:22 PM
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