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Help with vouchers issued under Class Action Settlement in CA; SECOND REQUEST

Posted Mon January 18, 2010 1:46 am, by Johnny K. written to Microsoft Corporation

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This is a SECOND request. More than a week has passed since my original contact, and there has been NO attempt on your part to respond. I guess your customers and their complaints or suggestions are something you are not concerned with. I am writing representing 2 parties. We received vouchers under the class action settlement against Microsoft; between us the amount represents over $700. We are simply pooling our resources.

We would like to purchase Office 2010 with these vouchers; however, they are scheduled to expire September 16, 2010. Since Office 2010 didn't enter beta testing phase until late in 2009, it is unlikely that the product will even be ready in time for us to use our vouchers. I suspect we are not alone.

I would like to ask if there is a solution in place for those of us that are in this situation? If Office 2010 is not released until after the expiration date of these vouchers, will they still be accepted? Can we ask for an extension, or PREORDER Office 2010?

We have no problem ordering directly from Microsoft.

In the event that an extension is NOT possible, does the Microsoft store offer Gift Cards that we can use our vouchers for?

Offer a solution to extend the validity of these vouchers to include the release of Office 2010.


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by Knight Posted Thu February 11, 2010 @ 12:14 AM

Any updates John?

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Actually I have some information..... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Sat February 27, 2010 @ 2:42 AM
by Knight Posted Wed January 27, 2010 @ 9:44 AM

Why not bring another class action lawsuit against Microsoft demanding
that they extend the expiration date of the vouchers? It's
brilliant!!!

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Really? by Donno Wed January 27, 2010 @ 10:40 AM

Re: Really? by Knight Wed January 27, 2010 @ 7:08 PM

I am not talking about another suit.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Wed January 27, 2010 @ 9:35 PM


Makes sense to you by NathanG Thu January 28, 2010 @ 10:29 AM

They didn't LOSE the suit... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 28, 2010 @ 1:32 PM


lol by NathanG Thu January 28, 2010 @ 1:57 PM

They already wrote off the.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 28, 2010 @ 3:14 PM

RE: They already wrote off the.... by Knight Thu January 28, 2010 @ 4:29 PM

Oh.. I get it.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 28, 2010 @ 9:53 PM

RE: Oh.. I get it.... by Knight Fri January 29, 2010 @ 5:49 AM

Don't you see.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Fri January 29, 2010 @ 12:53 PM

Besides.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Fri January 29, 2010 @ 6:24 PM

You are talking about reopening the suit... by macdave2 Fri January 29, 2010 @ 10:28 AM

Here we go again.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Fri January 29, 2010 @ 12:46 PM
by Kalphoenix Posted Fri January 22, 2010 @ 2:09 PM

I, like many of the posters here, feel that OP has their answer:
Microsoft is not interested in either speaking with, or accommodating
OP outside what they are legally bound to do via the vouchers.

But, my final thoughts and suggestions below:

1.) Contact the MS sales department. If anyone has any desire or
ability to help OP, it might be them. Customer service will not be
able to do anything for OP other than (maybe) a non-assumed
responsibility apology.

2.) I don't know if this would even be allowed (The vouchers may only
be good for physical software), but since the vouchers will expire
before the program OP wants comes out, OP should see if they can use
the vouchers for Microsoft's "Tech connect" subscription service. TC
gives you licenses and downloads (and betas) of Microsoft software.
Might be only way to get the specific program when it comes out after
the voucher expiration. It's pricey though, something like 200-300$
yearly, and the licenses are specific, not unlimited. OP still might
get bit if MS delays the program again and the service expires before
the release.

3.) Microsoft is not going to offer OP anything outside of what they
are obligated to per the legal agreement and to the letter of it.
First, they may not feel it's worth any further effort, and second, if
others find out Microsoft made one exception, the rest may have a case
to demand the same treatment.

4.) Give it a little more time. There may be only one specific
person who can deal with this matter and you may not be near the top
of the list.

5.) Being on the loosing end of the deal, Microsoft is not going to
give OP any ideas about what they can do. It's going to be OP's
responsibility to think within the rules but outside the box. It is
not Microsoft's obligation to come up with a solution.

6.) Note that I'm not saying that it is or isn't poor customer
service on MS's part, but OP needs to consider how badly they would
like to use Microsoft products in the future. It may very well be
that Microsoft has no intention of doing business with OP or similar
litigants in the future outside of the legal arrangements already
made, and that, in essence, Microsoft has "fired" the customer, or
intends to do so at the conclusion of these vouchers.

7.) If all else fails (and it looks like it will), find something
else to spend the vouchers on, because when they are gone, they are
gone, claimed or not.

After all, they have billions of customers, it's being made fairly
clear by their actions that Microsoft doesn't particularly feel that
it needs you or any of the others in this particular situation.

Peace.

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by macdave2 Posted Wed January 20, 2010 @ 7:36 PM

Have you called the claims administrator at 1-800-960-5660. They are
the ones the deal with the vouchers not microsoft.

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Excellent suggestion. by Mundo Cani D. Wed January 20, 2010 @ 9:31 PM

It IS a customer service issue..... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 21, 2010 @ 4:20 PM

I did, but... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 21, 2010 @ 4:13 PM

You obviously by Mundo Cani D. Sat January 23, 2010 @ 1:15 PM

So??? by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 28, 2010 @ 3:22 PM

RE: I did, but... by Knight Sat January 23, 2010 @ 7:34 PM

NO........The claims administrator was not helpful because..... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Sun January 24, 2010 @ 2:47 PM

RE: NO........The claims administrator was not helpful because..... by Knight Tue January 26, 2010 @ 10:43 AM

by batmoody Posted Wed January 20, 2010 @ 6:59 PM

"What do you do when customer service doesn't even make an attempt to
serve the customer?"

You are not a customer anymore. You SUED them. Why would they respond?

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I didn't SUE them.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Wed January 20, 2010 @ 7:33 PM


You'll be a customer by Donno Wed January 20, 2010 @ 10:31 PM


While you did not start by fairywithfangs Thu January 21, 2010 @ 10:11 AM

Ok so by that thought..... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 21, 2010 @ 4:16 PM


lol by NathanG Thu January 21, 2010 @ 8:58 PM

How often do you.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Fri January 22, 2010 @ 12:17 PM


hmm by NathanG Fri January 22, 2010 @ 2:30 PM

That is exactly the point.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Fri January 22, 2010 @ 7:49 PM


Ok so lets start suing by NathanG Sat January 23, 2010 @ 1:55 PM

by RedheadwGlasses Posted Wed January 20, 2010 @ 12:58 PM

Oh my god, let it GO already. They aren't going to accommodate you on
this, you had plenty of time to spend the voucher. So buy something
already. You're not guaranteed to get your way on everything
throughout life.

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I cannot abide by the thought that.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 21, 2010 @ 5:36 PM

But they did respond. by Mundo Cani D. Sat January 23, 2010 @ 1:51 PM

Yes, I did speak with the administrator... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Sat January 23, 2010 @ 3:11 PM


by fairywithfangs Posted Wed January 20, 2010 @ 10:58 AM

I don't think that they can legally respond to you. You mentioned you
were part of a class action lawsuit against them, any questions you
have might need to go through the legal department. I would try
contacting the firm that handled the case for you, tell them you have
a question about the vouchers and ask them the best way to go about
getting an answer.

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I wonder about this too... by Kalphoenix Wed January 20, 2010 @ 12:07 PM

That may very well be true,, by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Thu January 21, 2010 @ 5:29 PM


But for this matter by fairywithfangs Fri January 22, 2010 @ 10:19 AM
by Knight Posted Tue January 19, 2010 @ 6:27 PM

You won a lawsuit against them. They are not going to do anything more
then what they were required to do by law.

Good Day

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by Kelshir Posted Tue January 19, 2010 @ 5:35 PM

Maybe they cannot legally respond. It is the result of a lawsuit so
ANY response would have to be looked over by lawyers on their side and
it could be that the terms of the settlement forbids them from
contacting you over this issue.

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by Donno Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 9:01 AM

There is no problem with asking for consideration, but couldn't not
getting a reply be one form of an answer? I believe so.

There is an expiration date on the voucher. What you asking is
similar to asking for a coupon's expiration date to be extended.

The terms of the compensation are very clear.

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Also, they did respond to their customer's compliants by Donno Mon January 18, 2010 @ 9:03 AM


Re: Help with vouchers issued under Class Action Settlement in CA; SECOND REQUEST by NathanG Mon January 18, 2010 @ 8:43 AM

We are a household with by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Mon January 18, 2010 @ 4:54 PM


So by NathanG Tue January 19, 2010 @ 10:58 AM

We have registered so much Microsoft software over the years by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Tue January 19, 2010 @ 2:30 PM


So by NathanG Tue January 19, 2010 @ 3:24 PM

That is easier said than done in this economy.... by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Tue January 19, 2010 @ 7:36 PM

RE: So by Knight Tue January 19, 2010 @ 6:31 PM

by Donno Posted Tue January 19, 2010 @ 7:20 PM

You said it, not I - I applaud Microsoft for not responding to such
emails. I wouldn't make special allowances if someone sued me and
they got a judgment against me. In fact, I'd hope the person would
never use the voucher.

The OP's laywers had plenty of opportunity to make demands when this
lawsuit took place. Negotiations are over, complete.

And I also agree that if the settlement was large enough, they may
have intentionally times the release of Office to not allow the use of
the vouchers. Oh well, that is how the rough and tumble world of
lawsuits works.

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by jkarnofsky@yahoo.com Posted Tue January 19, 2010 @ 7:59 PM

that is behind mail in rebates.... the manufacturer (and in some cases
the reseller) offers mail in rebates in the hopes that the consumer is
lazy and does not follow up on the promotion being offered.

In this economy, I hate the lack of response MORE than 'I am sorry, we
can't do that' (close the damn book and talk to me!).

I suspect that there are other voucher recipients that are wanting to
use the vouchers on Office 2010. There are so many recipients of these
vouchers, we simply cannot be alone. I do not know how many vouchers
are still outstanding, nor do I know how much the settlement totaled.
Whatever it is, I am sure the legal eagles and the bean counters have
written it off the books as a one time expense; because it was a court
ordered judgement.

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