Even suicide doesn't slow your regulars' attacks on people.

I forgot to add, that even when you try to retaliate against their
rude ignorant and demeaning comments, they will just delete what you
say, so they will always get the last word. Ive learned that you
can't win on that site, the trolls will always have the power to say
what they want, and delete what you want to say.

I ended up just deleting the whole post, and deleting my account. I
will NEVER visit that rediculous site again and be sure to NEVER let
people know about it.

This is, by far, the PERFECT review about my3cents.com. I recently
wrote a review sharing my frustrations about REBATES. yes REBATES.
nobody likes how long it takes to recieve a rebate. Am I wrong?
anyway, I wrote a little nformative review about my frustrations with
a few rebates I have been waiting on, which I possibly may write about
on THIS site instead.

Ive read a few complaints on my3cents.com before, and seen how certain
members or an I call them "trolls" troll around the site looking for
people to bully up on. BEJ, SKYE...no matter what anyone on their
site puts, they will find something to blame on the poster. No matter
WHAT. These internet bullies must have a very very dull life if this
is what they do with their time. They must be frustrated customer
serice reps who try to vent their work frustrations anonymously on the
public.

I just want to give KUDOS to the poster of this article. You are DEAD
ON about that site.

Some people just seriously need to GET A LIFE!

I mean... Its just the internet who cares?

If you don't like the posts on a particular site, then don't go to
that site or read the comments people post about what you say. It's
that simple. This girl that supposedly took all these pills was a
fool to keep coming back for 2 days to read what people wrote about
her posts. Kinda rediculous to threaten to kill yourself over a
stupid website, quite frankly.

Planetfeedback used to be the EXACT same way. It is marginally better
nowadays, not sure why. But yes, there was basically no good complaint
EVER written in the minds of the "regulars". Anytime an order was
wrong the response was "You should have checked" "You shouldn't go
there" etc. And then when none of those responses worked it was "you
should have talked to a manager instead of posting here". Which
obviously renders planetfeedback quite useless. And when all else
fails, attack ANY spelling/typo error.

I've been pounced on for everything under the sun here and when you
have a legitamite complaint,it's very frustrating.

We have a bunch of them in my town hat solicit the local paper's forum
from the library and the radio staion addresses how vicious they are(I
do a display there for my jewelry) they have no jobs,live on welfare
and consider attacking what they deem as their opposites any way they
can.


The human heart is infinitely wicked and those that do not believe
there truly is a God are accountable to no one.Sadly,many of them are
raising kids or let me say "have kids and mange to keep them alive
without teahcing them right from wrong" and those kids will grow up to
act just like them.:Lazy,filthy-mouthed and disrespectful.They end up
dead or in prison.

There are "givers" and there are "takers" and they know who they are.


They treat people with what's inside thier hearts and I dare say they
wouldn't be so tough if this was not an annonymous site.Few are that
tough face to face.

Out of the abundance of the heart,the mouth speaks and many think
offending and attacking others is fun.

I've come to realize that everything people give out will come back to
them eventually and just because they don't belive there is a God and
a day of answering,does not make it not so.

As I teach my kids;God sees all and we will be held responsible.Do not
let them change who you are.

Ehh, I doubt the person in question actually committed suicide. Some
people say that online for attention, even the bad kind. On the other
hand, many websites are full of people who prey on the vulnerable.
They're called bullies. I was a former member of a website where, if
you weren't in the honchos' little clique, they tore you apart over
absolutely anything that you dared say.

Unfortunately, cyber harassment isn't taken too seriously, but it may
be soon in light of the girl who was bullied so badly on Facebook that
she committed suicide. However, it's also up to those being picked on
to get up and leave, as opposed to taking the abuse. Walking away
without saying anything will drive these people crazy more than being
dignified with a response.

I'm a member at M3C but get on there about as often as I get on PFB.
I remember the letter referred to here. I read it, along with all the
responses, and felt it was a fake from the get go. Each time the
person who wrote the letter got back on, her story changed. I didn't
even bother to post anything because I didn't believe a word of what
the letter writer said.

At the beginning of this thread, someone made reference to some of the
'regulars' on M3C and it was spot on. You have the 'leaders' and all
the ones who are picked as 'favorites.' I chuckled when I read their
a bunch of lonely single females, or something to that effect. You
mean The General and her group? Along with the Major?

The moderators there will glom on to someone they want to promote as a
person who is, in their opinion, a respected 'contributor', build them
up, and award stars to instill a feeling of importance. I read where
one got 3 stasrs in about a 6 month period while others may have been
around for more than 2 years with no stars.

There seems to be one moderator who has a head on his shoulders but if
he keeps butting heads with another one, he'll probably get kicked
off.

Mundo, I wondered why I haven't seen anything by you for a long time.
Ken, you're another. But since I very seldom get on now, I thought we
were just ships passing in the night.

PepperElf, you're getting snookered in. Be careful if you ever cross
the powers that be. Your downfall will be even more abrupt than your
rise up the ranks.

Some of the members change user names about as often as I change
underwear, and in no time at all, because they're a favorite of the
moderators, gets awarded strs for 'contributions.' I still haven't
discovered if this person is a male or female, but I guess I really
don't care. Being a suck-up has paid off.

John S., I think you fell for that putup job of a letter, hook, line,
and sinker. I didn't. That's why I didn't even bother writing an
answer on it.

If you enjoy sucking up and yapping about the 3 main subjects at M3C
the experience there will be pleasant.

1. Is it called soda or pop
2. What did the main site moderator's BF do in the
bathroom or his pants today?
3. Watch and comment on stupid youtubes.


REMEMBER the site is all about HER. Nothing else matters.

wow...they are nice to me...

I don't think I've ever been on My3Cents before, but I've seen this
same sort of issue with many, many sites.

On one hand, when you post anything like this you can't really expect
everyone to agree with you or shower you with compliments. People have
differing opinions, and they have different ways of expressing those
opinions. I've seen people find someone else as being rude just
because they didn't like the way someone expressed a certain idea.
When dealing with people, you can't expect everything to be sunshine
and flowers all of the time.

On the other hand, there are people who certainly take advantage of
the anonymity of the internet. Hiding behind the guise of being
brutally honest, they post things they'd probably get slugged for
saying in face to face interactions. Their attacks are often personal
and insulting.

Of course, judging when someone has crossed the line can be difficult.
There is a certain amount of common sense to be used, but at the same
time setting boundaries is really subjective and dependant on personal
opinions. When someone really goes overboard, it's easy to see, but
it's tough to determine exactly wehre that 'line' is located.

Personally, I go by the idea of the golden rule. I want people to
treat me with respect, so I do my best to be respectful. If they
aren't respectful, then at least I know I've done my part. Secondly,
most of what I read from their post is what I infer to be their tone.
I can't see their facial expression or hear their voice. Maybe I think
they're trying to be rude when in fact they are just stating their
point. Finally, if someone has crossed the line then I know I don't
have to continue the argument. It's so easy to read something else, go
to a different site, or turn off the computer and go outside for a
change.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there is responsibility on
both sides.

I just got on this website and actually looked at some of the
comments. They do not seem that bad, and nothing that would push
someone to commit suicide. Maybe it was just the specific reviews I
pulled up.

I think the moderation at this site is a good and necessary thing.
Yeah, it's not as fun/entertaining as it used to be, but should my
juvenile entertainment be at the expense of someone else -- a total
stranger who doesn't know how the site works, or that their
demand/expectation isn't realistic?

This is a free site, as is the one being complained about in this
letter, and no one is entitled to use the letter writers as their own
personal whipping boys/girls.

I don't agree 100% with all the rules of moderation at this site, but
you can't please everyone, and I agree with 95% of it.

THis letter is a good reminder of how really, really nasty many of us,
myself included, used to be at this site.

Honestly, if we all could be more like Brendalala, there'd be no need
for moderation.

I recommend you do as well, John S/My 2 Cents. Why deal with the Crazy
MAN when you don't have to?

I like ice cream. There are two ice cream shoppes close enough for me
to frequent. They both have fine ice cream.

But in the first one, there is a loony guy who is often there. He
walks around, shoving people and acting like he's trying to steal your
toppings.

The folks who own the shoppe do little about him. They post signs
warning people not to act such a fool, but they still just smile and
turn their heads every time he runs a muck. They like him, after all;
he's been coming there for years now.

So I don't visit that shoppe. I go to the second one, where there
isn't a Crazy MAN trying to steal my toppings.

And you know what? The ice cream tastes much better there.

I'd like to say, as a member of M3C for the last few years, that while
the M3C community can at times be vicious. I have never seen an
instance where it is any more so than PFB. The people at PFB can be
equally nasty and mean to the posters.
You list one extreme case and then claim that it is the norm for the
whole site. In fact I have seen many wonderful comments and helpful
suggestions on the site. The only time I have ever seen the M3C
community 'gang up' on someone is when the complaint is really not
legit or if the person is lying through their teeth.

If your story is in fact true than I am truly sorry, on behalf of the
M3C community, however I think you should not judge the whole site on
one ugly incident.

But I can see how the conversation so easily turned that way. My
intent, however, was to warn others about what to expect should they
venture to My3cents.com, just as many reviews out here intend to warn
people of questionable businesses and products.

My3cents.com fosters an evil, hateful - and counterproductive -
environment where new members are attacked for having done nothing
more than tell their story about something that did not go their way.
New members should be cautious of what they are getting into before
they subject themselves to such brutality.

Heck, My3cents.com regulars even go after each other with the same
ferociousness, like a pack of frenzied hamsters crawling all over each
other.

I'm thankful there are places like PlanetFeedback.com, where voicing
your opinion matters for something more than encouraging online
wildings.

It's just my opinion, but based on the number of people who have sworn
off My3cents.com, who were attacked after their first and only posting
and remarked in utter shock at their treatment, and even of some of
the "regulars" who ran across this review, this opinion is not coming
out of left field.

Anyone that threatens suicide over something some anonymous people
post on the internet, are either too immature to be using the
internet, or in all honesty would be threatening to committ suicide
anyway.

If the person actually did committ suicide over anonymous posts
online, the person had serious mental issues and in all likeliness
would have attempted it anyway.

And some have called the PFB regulars harsh!

As to these laws you call for to "protect the innocent," there are all
kinds of laws out there already that are supposed to protect people
from bad things; drugs, guns, violence, etc. Last time I checked, it's
not really stopping these bad things from happening. And the truth of
it is, the more of these "tools" are put in place, the more we
surrender the ability to think and behave as rational adults. Why
stop to think? If it's so bad, someone will get a law passed to
outlaw it, right?

The problem with this logic is that it only makes the lawyers happy
(sorry, LadyMac!) because you can't legislate common sense.

Just as these so-called villians should have had the sense to back
off, so to, should this young woman had the sense to walk away from
the site when the attention turned hostile. To my understanding, no
one was holding a gun to her head and forcing her to be there. No one
tricked this person into anything. If after the first comment she was
unhappy with the response she was getting, she didn't need to come
back.

But I do tend to lean towards what others brought up about if this
woman would post something indicating that she was taking her own life
on a very public website, there was far more in turmoil for her than a
couple of thoughtless commenters.

Does anyone know for a fact this person even committed suicide?

Just because a person stops posting doesnt mean anything happened
other than they got fed up with people.

They can threaten it, then just stop posting and read comments just to
screw with people.

I'm only commenting because I recall hearing something similar
discussed somewhere else recently regarding bullying and
cyber-bullying.

The internet boils down to personal responsibility. This isn't a
public school you are forced by law to attend. It isn't your home
(even if you access it from there) and it isn't a streetcorner you
have to walk past every day and be heckled. You have the option to
turn off the power or not go to the places that enrage/upset you.
There are many places on the internet that are akin to walking into
gang territory. It's pretty easy to tell ahead of time where they are
if you do your research and LOOK BEFORE YOU POST.

And on the other side of the table, as the laws governing behavior on
the internet shift, don't be indignant or surprised when you are HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR WORDS. You cannot "accidentally" blurt out
something on the internet. Do not type and/or post something because
you can be held responsible for it later, or something that you would
be ashamed to see posted next to your actual name in real life. Do
not get upset when you find out that you aren't QUITE as anonymous as
you thought you were. Don't get upset when someone on a legal end
thinks your "jokes" aren't that funny.

The internet largely consists of private business that have a right to
run them however they personally see fit. I'm not saying there is
anything wrong with giving them your opinion (the same as you might
for a restaurant or a store regarding it's policies), however it is
unreasonable to demand the site conforms to your personal
opinions/beliefs. If something is bad enough, it will fester in it's
own filth and die. Just leave it to do so and don't feed the internet
trolls because if they know they can get a rise out of you, they will
and you will just prolong the situation. Do not stress about things
you can easily walk away from and realistically have no impact on
either the world, your life and aren't worth your time. Shut the door
and fuggitabouddit.

I can personally think of posts, posters and even subject matter on
the internet I avoid like the plague, because I know the stupid will
make me crazy.

I am inclined to quote something I once heard regarding the internet:
"Thou shall not be too annoying, and thou shall not be too easily
annoyed." If this simple rule is not being followed by your fellow
posters, you have the option of not being annoyed by leaving the
situation.

Just as a reminder to all persons on this post:

Discussion and debate is encouraged.

However, PFB does not allow personal insults or profanity. Please be
aware of this as you continue to leave comments. If you attack other
commenter or use profane language, your posts will be pulled.

Thanks for your cooperation.

This used to happen all the time on PFB. Its because My3cents.com
probably has no monitor to oversee this.

People will criticize but there is also constructive criticism. But
even that need not be layered with insults.

Just ignore these idiots and keep on the site if you like it.

The replies to posts that spew forth over there remind me of
playground conversation in second or third third grade. It is really
pretty sickening, but if you know it is there you should look past it.
It is like there are 30 people lurking at any time, and they post
catty comments and references to other comments they have made, and it
goes on and on and on. It is like a gab fest where the person with
the most posts gets a piece of candy or something. To me it is static
or white noise.

If people are going to post at my3cents, PFB or anywhere else, why not
LOOK at other letters AND responses FIRST, so you know what to expect?
That is what I did at PFB in the beginning, during a period the
current admin refers to as The Wild West. I expected a raft of grief
and I got (and ignored) it.

The best way to get protection on the internet is to protect yourself.
This alleged suicide victim just needed to look around, or STOP
looking around after they didn't like what they saw.

M3C is the place where the members spent the better part of a day
debating whether a cheeseburger without cheese is still a cheeseburger
or not. Sometimes the insanity is priceless (and harmless)!

I was a member of M3C. There were times when I was quite active on it.
I can say, with complete confidence, that I have never been treated so
outrageously anywhere else than on that site. I have never been so
offended and I have never been so attacked.

The very first day I was there, I received messages from members
warning me to be wary of cliques. People I had never seen before or
had any kind of interaction with would just - out of the blue -
comment on how stupid something I said was and how I must have been a
moron. It made no sense to me at all.

One person, whose screen name begins with "Zz" (I cannot remember the
rest), is so antagonistic that the overwhelming majority of his
comments are placed in the "Other" section. I mean, what is the point
of him even being there to comment on anything, if almost all of his
comments are deemed "off topic"?

But the site Admins and Mods all love him. They giggle and go "tee
hee" every time he says something outrageous and offensive, then add
"Oh, that's just how he is."

Maybe this is the gist of what the OP is talking about. Why would
someone like Zz be allowed to remain on that site, considering he is
not offering anything to the site but acrimony?

The fact that the site does allow him to remain unfettered, says a lot
about the site itself.

I don't think there is anything that can be done, nor that anything
need to be done. Forget "laws" and such. We have enough government
intrusion in our lives.

The best thing anyone can do, if they feel so inclined, is to just
turn their backs on M3C and let it fester in its own septic pool of
hatred. When the site disappears, and the owners no longer make any
money from it, maybe it will be reborn with a little respect for
others.

I dont think just a site can make someone commit suicide. That person
obviously needed help long before m3c came along.

The internet is a wide open world, full of the happy, angry,
depressed, lonely, and insane. Cant handle it open and book and read
outside.

I will agree some members have a tendency to rib posters pretty hard
on M3C. The majority of the comments get kicked to the "other" section
now but the best way around that is to pal up to the lonely single
women that moderate the site. I don't condone what takes place to new
posters on the site but I know that myself and a few others get away
with more than we should because we know how to stroke the ego of
mainly just one person in particular. I would suggest staying away
from M3C unless you are thick skinned.

What does where the comment was made have to do with anything?
Please do not bring the M3C gang attack mode over here and start
trouble.

really? a bit meldodramtic, arentt you? All over being asked to
clarify--.

I am a former M3C member who left out of frustration with a small
number of members, one of whom is an admin. That being said, overall
the members there are a warm and caring group, many of whom I count as
friends.

The post referred to here was a nonsensical rant. When the
inconsistencies were pointed out, the OP got more and more extreme in
her claims.

IMO it was never more than an attempt to gain sympathy and attention,
but even if the story she relayed were true, she would have been
unreasonable in her argument. In one final snit she told everyone she
hated them (in private emails) and announced she was going to kill
herself. There was no more credibility to this, than there was to ger
original nonsensical claims. Nonetheless, members stepped

in reality there isn't much you *can* do against someone online.

If you disagree with someone's attitude you can - both there and here
actually - contact a moderator. Actually at M3C you don't even have
to directly contact the admin, you can "vote" on someone's reply.

That being said, there's no laws against someone being rude or against
someone disagreeing with an OP.

Others have mentioned the new TOS for m3c. The thread you are
referring to was written - and subsequently locked - before this new
ruleset was created.


now personally i'm of mixed feelings about suicide threats, especially
ones made online. my own instinct is to generally associate it with
an attention attempt, or an attempt to make others feel bad. however
at the same time... i'd hate to see anyone *prove* that they are
serious, which is why i never say that to them.

after all i've personally seen both - i've seen people who have made
comments for attention, and i've also seen the aftermath of people who
did in fact end their own lives.

it is indeed a delicate situation.


that being said, i don't see why an entire website should be
condemned. there are many of us there who will disagree or agree with
a letter-writer based entirely on what the complaint was over.


although there's always going to be someone who rubs you the wrong
way, there are many of us who are neither polite nor rude, but rather
just state why we may disagree with a complaint.

the negative side of that is that... at times there are those who only
want to hear replies from people who support their complaint. in
cases such as that, any reply from a disagreeing point of view is
taken as an attack, even if no attack is actually made.


but again, online, as in regular life, the best one can do is try to
ignore those who infuriate you. usually that works pretty well.

You forgot 'the rest of the story'. As it continues, the 'regular
members' reported the mentioned pill swallowing sucide threat to the
Admin of M3C. Admin then contacted that member's local authorities, in
which they were going to investigate the sucide threat to make sure
that member was ok.

And there you have, 'the rest of the story'...

Did you read the post in the community section where one of the
regulars you are accusing of callous behavior asked the site admin to
check up on the suicide claim? The local authorities were contacted.

AT THE REQUEST OF A REGULAR