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False advertisement

Posted Tue May 25, 2010 11:58 am, by Margaret F. written to Staples.com

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I ordered 16 packs of toilet paper during their one day sale. I ordered 10 packs at $2.99 and 6 packs at $4.99, as did most of the people on several forums I belong to, and some people on my church email group. Today ALL of us, even the people who ordered as soon as the sale started, were told it was out of stock, and 100% of the orders were canceled. One friend called and was told it wasn't out of stock, and the rep didn't understand why it was canceled. They refuse to honor the price, even though our orders were accepted, our debit cards were charged, and we received confirmation and a delivery date. They never intended to sell it at that price, they could have pulled the coupon/asd if they sold out, or refused the orders with an "out of stock" notice, but they continued to accept orders all day, and charged every credit and cdebit card. There is now a hold on my funds and I have no toilet paper.

Send me 16 24 packs of toilet paper, delivered to my door, as they promised to do when they put a hold on my debit card.


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by I'm back Posted Mon May 31, 2010 @ 8:19 PM

I didn't know they sold toilet paper. They don't here.

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They do by Donno Tue June 1, 2010 @ 9:26 AM


You sure are! by LadyMac Wed June 2, 2010 @ 12:43 PM


Exactly by Donno Thu June 3, 2010 @ 9:32 AM
by billt Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 9:52 PM

My suggestion would be read terms and conditions

under product and services information I found this
"The receipt of an email order confirmation is simply a recognition
that we have received your requested order, and does not constitute an
offer to sell. We reserve the right to limit the quantity of any item
sold, or prohibit a sale altogether, including but not limited to
prohibiting sales to resellers. "

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And Ignore the Debit Card Hold? by chicagorob1 Fri June 4, 2010 @ 3:09 PM

by Eclipse Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 9:42 PM

You are absolutely correct. They should give you what you ordered. It
seems too suspicious that they would cancel your order and give you
the opportunity to purchase it at full price.

I can see them saying sorry, it is no longer available period, as in
clearance. In this case, they should at least notify you it is
backordered and get more in, then send it to you.

It still is not bait and switch though. They may have baited you and
then switched something in a literal sense, it does not meet the legal
definition of the term. Bait and switch would apply where they did not
intend to offer the special at all. Even if they were planning on
offering a small number of packages for sale, then it would not be
bait and switch. If at least a few people got some, then it is not
illegal at all. Not a good business idea, as they are losing sales,
but perfectly legal.

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by Donno Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 5:05 PM

It just occurred to me. Why would a company like Staples conduct
false advertisement on toilet paper, of all things?

Why not, I don't know, an All-In-One Office printer?

At a pack of toilet paper for $4.99 versus, I don't know, a regular
price of let's say $9.99, this ruse would have netted the company not
only bad will but $5.

With a printer, they could suck in maybe $30-40 on an equivalent
"scam".

I just noticed this was a one day sale. I still am of the opinion
they had a certain quantity, and once they realized it was sold out
they stopped the sale. We have seen web portals frequently do not
have accurate availability information. Hence orders were received
and processed for which ultimately there was no remaining supply.
Then the price returned to normal.

Turns out this is Marcal - some of the worst TP on Planet Earth, IMO.


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by Margaret F. Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:16 PM

Evidently big business has finally bred a new type of consumer, one
who will roll over and take it, whatever "it" might be, without
expecting any product or service in return for their money.
Either that, or this site is now filled with big business shills,
trying to socially engineer the aforementioned ideal consumer by
attaching negative connotations to the idea of fighting for your
rights as a consumer.
It's interesting, but I'll let the FTC have the last word. I reported
them, and they're investigating. If staples had no actual supply
available when they did the sale, and thus no one got any at the sale
price, then they'll shut them down quick, or at least slap them with a
fine.
Everyone else, show your support for companies that cheat you or go
back on their word by rushing out to shop there with your unbelievably
and literally disposable income. Not me. My sympathies are with the
consumers, and those who are ripped off or misled in the name of
profit.
Amazon, which owns zappos, had a glitch over the weekend that cost
them 1.6 million dollars, but they chose to honor the orders, even
though it meant taking a loss. That's how it's supposed to be done,
for those of you who have been brainwashed by corporate Amerika into
thinking that being cheated is a great and noble thing, and
complaining is wrong, well, there's not much I can do to help you.
Sorry.You're not going to slow me down, though. I'm not easily
influenced by lightweight opinions with nothing to back them up. .

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Sorry by Donno Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:27 PM

I don't mind out of stock orders either by Margaret F. Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:32 PM


I am also a member of many by fairywithfangs Tue May 25, 2010 @ 9:03 PM


New Breed by NathanG Wed May 26, 2010 @ 11:51 AM

hum by Lisa H. Wed May 26, 2010 @ 2:36 PM


Being uninformed by I'm back Mon May 31, 2010 @ 8:39 PM

by Donno Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 1:16 PM

Because usually it isn't. It is fun to try to make the story told
into one that fits the definition.

On the forums I am a member of, 100% of my colleagues find the same
thing. I don't attend church.

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by RedheadwGlasses Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 12:50 PM

They were out of stock because you and all your friends ordered
ridiculous amounts of toilet paper. way to go. Next time, they'll
just limit quantities.

And if you're out of TP, you can go anywhere in town to get that.

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BS! by fishbjc Thu May 27, 2010 @ 3:18 PM


Jesus christ, take a chill pill by RedheadwGlasses Tue June 1, 2010 @ 1:14 PM

by NathanG Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 12:09 PM

Unless the rep you talked to worked at the warehouse he would have no
clue if its in stock or not.

These types of sales where something is 75% off attract thousands if
not millions of people. So you are essentially fighting with tons of
other people.

Unless they have a web designer on staff it woudl be pretty hard to
update the site the second they run out.

think of it like one of those radio dial in contests. Do you know how
many other people you are competing against?

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by Margaret F. Posted Tue May 25, 2010 @ 1:23 PM

Everywhere I shop has a little notice telling how many are in stock,
if it's low. I've started to place orders and then been notified that
it was out of stock. I have NEVER had my debit card charged before an
item was placed in shipping status. I spend ens of thousands a year
shopping on the internet, this was not handled professionally.
If I'd gotten an out of stock notice, as I do on many other sites, I'd
have simply browsed a little and then left. Having my order accepted,
an email confirmation sent, and my debit card funds held, implies an
accepted order. I expect to receive it, under those circumstances.
Limited supplies and out of stocks are their problem. It's up to them
to stop the transaction. This is called bait and switch, or false
advertisement, and it's illegal for a reason.
ALL orders were cancelled, even the ones placed early.

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lol by NathanG Tue May 25, 2010 @ 1:53 PM

Bait and switch by Margaret F. Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:00 PM


Nathan explained by Donno Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:17 PM

Nope, I haven't by Margaret F. Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:25 PM


Sorry by Donno Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:36 PM


*sigh* by NathanG Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:19 PM

yes, bait and switch by Margaret F. Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:27 PM


No by Donno Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:30 PM

Because I bought it at sale price by Margaret F. Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:34 PM


That is your interpretation by Donno Tue May 25, 2010 @ 2:43 PM


Her interpretation. by Eclipse Tue May 25, 2010 @ 9:44 PM


Bait and switch.. by Harleycat Sat May 29, 2010 @ 2:09 PM

Credit Card/Debit Card Transactions by MichEMT Wed May 26, 2010 @ 12:13 PM


Very Nice by NathanG Wed May 26, 2010 @ 12:39 PM

thanks :-) by MichEMT Wed May 26, 2010 @ 12:54 PM




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