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by jennifer-juniper Posted Mon January 21, 2013 @ 9:12 PM
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You don't know what you are talking about. They do not have to have proper Identification to do so.
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by Rosetta G. Posted Fri April 6, 2012 @ 9:18 PM
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s stated before, a service dog requires NO documentation or specific vest, so that cannot be required. Also, emotional support animals are NOT service dogs and may not legally accompany their owner anywhere. Service dogs must be individually trained to help an owner with a DISABILITY. This means they must perform TASKS that help the person do something the person cannot do because of a disability. Just providing emotional support is not considered a task by the ADA. Service dogs can and do provide emotional support, but they also do other things such as lead a blind person, alert a dead person to sounds, alert an epileptic about an impending siesure, lead a person with an anxiety disorder out of a crowd during a panic attack, etc. These are just some examples and it can be for any disabling condition. It also can be any dog, as long as it is not disruptive and does not fundamentally alter the business such as being in a surgical room (but not a food store). Also, regarding what a person can and cannot ask: someone can ask "Do you require a service animal due to a disability?" But they may not inquire about what the disability is. They may also ask, "What does this dog due to help your disability?" The person does not have to say what disability they have, but they must state what tasks their dog performs. This is just how the law is, I didn't make it up, but please follow it.
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by not_in_this_life Posted Wed February 15, 2012 @ 8:25 PM
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I'm not a dog person, but I would rather see a dog in a store than locked in a hot car. I saw a dog locked in a car in 80 degree weather with the window only open a crack. If people MUST take a dog to a store (which I don't see a purpose for, if someone needs that much emotional support from a pet, then they have problems)then they shouldn't get mad when they are asked to leave. It irks me too, but I just let it go. The dogs I have seen in stores are usually well behaved.
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by cissy Posted Sat January 14, 2012 @ 1:35 PM
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I'll say it again. Dogs don't want to go shopping! They want to go for a walk (not in a store). The only store I take Chynna to is Pet Valu.The ligition involved, if someone bit, would be twofold. Walmart and the dog's owner. Dogs don't belong in a store unless they are a service animal.
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Nice
by cissy Tue January 17, 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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by kklathan Posted Mon January 9, 2012 @ 7:14 AM
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Under the federal ADA (Americians with Disabilities Act) an any business open to the public is allowed ONLY to ask if an animal is a service animal. That is it. If the owner replies yes then the animal, which may or may not be collared, taged, wearing a harness, certified or licenced is allowed to accompany its owner into any part of the business which is normally open to the public. The ADA laws take priority over any state, county or city law or ordinance, to include the health department.
The business is also not allowed to deny access due to the animal, increase prices to cover the cost of cleaning up after the animal, seperate the owner of the animal from other customers due to the animals presence. Legally that animal is not a pet; hence it cannot be prevented from entering a business under a "no pet" policy. You cannot ban or control a service animal any more then you could ban a blind mans cane because legally there is no difference between them.
The ONLY way a service animal can be removed from a place of business is if the animal poses a direct threat to the health or safety of your other customers (growling or biting), or if the animal is actively
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by PepperElf Posted Mon January 9, 2012 @ 7:00 AM
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i did like the rebuttal that claims vests aren't mentioned in the ada laws....
because that just UPHOLDS the fact that vests are not required.
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by Kitty K. Posted Sun January 8, 2012 @ 9:27 PM
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Actually, since you are so convinced of how "unhealthy" it is for a dog to be in a store, I would assume you know of some study showing that disease is being spread by this practice, hmmm?
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by Applejacker Posted Sun January 8, 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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What it's all been watered down to these days is that if you love your dog (makes you happy) it then supplies your "emotional needs", therefore it is a "service dog" and allowed to pee and poop and wipe it's poopy paws on everyone's baskets as well as shed it's fur to all those that are allergic to dogs. I know someone who loves their dog (not a service dog) so much they merely bought a service dog vest over the internet and take it eveywhere now. Sicko's win yet again in a bleeding heart society.
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Oh really?
by Kitty K. Sun January 8, 2012 @ 9:16 PM
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Good Idea
by Applejacker Mon January 9, 2012 @ 1:13 AM
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by James S. Posted Sat January 7, 2012 @ 4:11 PM
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Funny thing about Servive animals (especially dogs and cats), there is something called an Emotional Support Animal and they do not have a special vest or anything AND THEY ARE CONSIDERED SERVICE ANIMALS.
All that is needed is a note from a mental health specialist that is no less then 1 year old.
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by Mytical Posted Sat January 7, 2012 @ 1:48 AM
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In the laws you posted, nowhere do I see the word Vest. I see tags, and just so we are clear, tags=/= vests. However, that is besides the point. Service animals generally are very well trained. Even if they are in a restaurant, they generally do not go into the kitchen. The only food in risk of 'contamination' is the food of the person they are with.
As for your arguments about the law (which apparently you do not understand as you have somehow interpreted tag to = vest) sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating the same thing over and over does not make it true.
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by PepperElf Posted Fri January 6, 2012 @ 2:20 PM
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the funny thing is the OP keeps running on about tags.
tags are only for proof that your dog has been inoculated against rabies. they have **absolutely nothing** to do with service animal status.
Sure you can call a health official and report the dog but... no store employee is going to badger the customer over it once the customer has stated "service animal"
Why? Because they'd rather enrage one single customer with a grudge or personal bone to pick vs paying out hefty fines for ADA violations
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by Mnemosyne Posted Fri January 6, 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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I am going to have my psychiatrist state that I need my dog with me as part of my therapy...doctors will write a note/perscription for just about anything you want as long as you pay them. Them I will go online and purchase an orange vest, which admittedly is not her color.
Why don't they allow the vests in different colors? I need to call my Congressman and suggest that. I imagine they are also a nasty mesh material, yuck! I mean orange is okay in the fall but even then I'd prefer a nice burgundy or green to bring out her lovely eyes.
Ah well the things I do to upset people and bombard them with undue stress:)
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I am a retail manager in California. I have been through numerous health inspections. I have, more than once, asked the health dept employee how they advise us to handle the dog situation. Every single time the advice is the same - politely inform the customer with the dog that we only allow service animals - if they say the animal is a service animal, leave it alone. Asking even "is that a service animal" could be perceived as asking "are you disabled" which is really not my business.
They are not required to provide any sort of identification to prove the animal is a service one and we do not ask.
If an animal is unruly, even a service animal (and I have never seen one who is) they can be asked to leave.
I am a dog owner and have a pretty cool dog at that. I don't take him shopping withme though, and don't really understand the people that do. I aslo don't really understand or appreciate the customers who make asumptions about whether or not I, or my team, are doing our job correctly when they suspect an
"unauthorized" animal is in the building.
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by McJohn Posted Thu January 5, 2012 @ 1:23 PM
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Here you go
6-501.115 Prohibiting Animals.
(A) Except as specified in ¶¶ (B) and (C) of this section, live animals may not be allowed on the premises of a food establishment. Pf
(B) Live animals may be allowed in the following situations if the contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result:
(1) Edible fish or decorative fish in aquariums, shellfish or crustacea on ice or under refrigeration, and shellfish and crustacea in display tank systems;
(2) Patrol dogs accompanying police or security officers in offices and dining, sales, and storage areas, and sentry dogs running loose in outside fenced areas;
(3) In areas that are not used for food preparation and that are usually open for customers, such as dining and sales areas, service animals that are controlled by the disabled employee or person, if a health or safety hazard will not result from the presence or activities of the service animal;
(4) Pets in the common dining areas of institutional care facilities such as nursing homes, assisted living facilities, group homes, or residential care facilities at times other than during meals if:
(a) Effective partitioning and self-closing doors separate the common dining areas from food storage or food preparation areas,
(b) Condiments, equipment, and utensils are stored in enclosed cabinets or removed from the common dining areas when pets are present, and
(c) Dining areas including tables, countertops, and similar surfaces are effectively cleaned before the next meal service; and
(5) In areas that are not used for food preparation, storage, sales, display, or dining, in which there are caged animals or animals that are similarly confined, such as in a variety store that sells pets or a tourist park that displays animals.
(C) Live or dead fish bait may be stored if contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result.
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by Steve OH (IO) Posted Thu January 5, 2012 @ 1:55 PM
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Except Walmart. Let them run free there.
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by Jared C. Posted Thu January 5, 2012 @ 3:59 PM
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Seriously?!? Do you really believe all dogs carry rabies??!?
You could spot a dog carrying rabies a mile away...the crazy eyes and white foam at the mouth are both pretty big and easy-to-spot symptoms.
Not to mention that dog owners make sure their animals are up to date on their shots b/c they can get seriously fined (as well as have their dogs confiscated AND destroyed by animal welfare) if their dogs are NOT up to date on their shots.
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by Norman P. Thu January 5, 2012 @ 6:40 PM
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by Mnemosyne Posted Thu January 5, 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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You are eating at Walmart and someone's dog is distracting from the sumptuous food and ambience is that it?
Stop trying to police the world.
Would it make you feel better if someone put an orange vest on their dog?
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Amen!
by Maegan Z. Fri January 6, 2012 @ 4:22 PM
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by PepperElf Posted Wed January 4, 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Service animals do NOT have to wear vests or tags proclaiming themselves to be animals.
You need to review the laws you're demanding they enforce.
just because you assume a service animal is going to look one certain way it does not mean they HAVE to fit your preconception.
Service animals can be very small dogs or not even dogs at all. I've seen monkeys for crying out loud.
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Actually, from my own research on this (based on past letters/discussions at this site), no such documentation is required. A store employee/manager may ask the customer to remove the animal, and if the customer says that the dog is for a disability, the employee is not legally allowed to ask for or push for additional information or proof of any kind.
The vests are meaningless -- anyone can buy them online.
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by SuzieCat Posted Tue January 3, 2012 @ 8:06 PM
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http://www.nh.gov/disability/information/community/serviceanimals.htm
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