Nautica Employees Refuse Use Of Restroom

So any word back from your daughter on this?

=)

If the Store is close enough to a public restroom they're not required
to have one available to customers, nor are they obligated to allow
customers to use their employee restrooms. Letting non-employees into
that area of the store would be a liability for them AND the customer.
I would suggest to anyone with children to make sure they go to the
bathroom before going out, or if they are prone to accidents, that
they wear training underwear. As for a lawsuit, I don't believe you
have any grounds for a case; the store did nothing wrong.

...And they COULD have charged you for the destruction of the
clothes...


turn about is fair play after all.

I noticed this one over at M3C...


Exactly what does it prove if you suggest that you COULD have let him
pee on the clothes?


That's like going up to someone and saying, "well I could have punched
you in the face" ... as some sort of passive-aggressive threat.



At any rate, even the threat of peeing on the clothes there... yeah
that's disgusting.

Honestly, if you are all happy being sheep submitting to ridiculous
rules, I feel sorry for you.

Our Founding Fathers would be very sad to learn that people in this
nation just blindly obey rules because they are simply ordered to
follow them.

In my experience, shopping center stores don't typically have a public
restroom. There usually are public restrooms throughout.

Upon looking at a map of this shopping center, it appears there is a
restroom right across from the Nautica store. Not a far walk at all.

So you can't plan ahead and are willing to let some stranger take your
seven year old grandson to the bathroom and Nautica, the one who IS
following the rules, is the bad guy???

"I certainly would not want people with such a lack of ability to
reason working for me"

But their ability is ok enough for them to take your grandson to the
bathroom?

Let us know what your grandson's mother says about the legal aspect.

Especially when she tells you that stores do not have to provide
restrooms. Because hell, some stores don't even HAVE restrooms in the
first place, let alone public ones.

Even under the ADA there's no law saying you HAVE to provide
restrooms.

http://www.access-board.gov/adaag/checklist/Bathrooms.html


The checklist - to determine ADA compliance - even states "If toilet
rooms are provided, does each public and common use toilet room comply
with 4.22 (See below)? (A common use toilet room is one used for a
restricted group of people such as occupants of a building or
employees of a company.)"


Notice the words "IF toilet rooms are provided," and the part about
"restricted group of people"

Nowhere does it say they MUST be provided.




But I'm sure your lawyer relative will say the same thing. She cannot
invent laws where none exist, even if you're her child's grandmother.

No public restroom means exactly that. Not open to the public. I
would hardly fault a company for adhering to its policy.

If you were unable to reach the public restroom... how did you get to
the Nautica store in the first place?

The last thing in the world I would do is let a stranger accompany my
child to the restroom. I work with children and have been background
checked, fingerprinted, etc. and we aren't allowed to accompany a
child to the bathroom.

You cant use my bathroom either, its through my work area which is
cluttered with computer parts, cords, boxes and tables. Its not
handicapped accessible, and I don't have the proper signage to make it
a public restroom.

I read what thew others said about letting a stranger escort him, but
from what you said it looks like you had someone with you who brought
him. So whats the problem??

If you are not able to tend to your grandchild's needs as might arise,
bring a companion to assist.

when i was working retail, in just about every store I worked in
allowing a customer to use a restroom was a fireable offense. This is
why, the restrooms were located in the stockroom. There was open stock
everywhere, usually the safe for the store, and it wasnt safe to have
customer back there. period. especially small children.

I would never - ever - take a strangers child to the bathroom.

It is legal for the employees to deny the use of there restrooms in
the store just as it is legal for them to deny you access to there
store, since it is private property.

" I certainly would not want people with such a lack of ability to
reason working for me."

And I would certainly not want someone with your lack of ability to
reason shopping with me! There are no public restrooms. End of story.
How hard is that to understand. They don't have to break the rules
because you are handicapped or your grandson is seven. And the the
employees aren't there to escort your grandson to the bathroom, and I
don't know why you would want them to.

have her check the legality of asking strangers to accompany a 7 year
old to a restroom. I doubt that either is illegal, but one is quite
stupid.

So you're too handicapped to take a kid two blocks to a restroom, but
you're not too handicapped to shop? Sorry, that does not compute. If
you are able to be out in public, buying clothes at an outlet mall,
you are able to plan ahead for restroom breaks. Especially with a
7yo.

And no, you don't get to use their restrooms, either, since you're
hinting at that as well.

IT IS LEGAL TO DENY USE OF A RESTROOM at a business like a clothing
store.