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parking, schmarking...
Posted Mon June 18, 2012 12:15 pm, by Michael A. written to Potomac Nationals
Back in April, I purchased a pair of tickets to a P-Nats game against the Salem Red Sox. I knew my wife and I would get our money's worth, having seats behind the backstop for such a low price. However, when we arrived that night for the game, we hadn't realized we'd be charged for parking.
Rain caused the re-scheduling of the entire series. My wife and I exchanged our tickets for one of the new dates and started for home. We were told by a staff member that we could contact management and get a refund for the $5 parking fee since the game was called off.
As the date for the rescheduled game approached, I thought about the parking situation more, and it began to bother me more.
Minor League ballclubs have less money, spend less money, and see far fewer fans during a season than their parent clubs. Yet the fans often still have to pay for parking. In general, having to pay for parking at an event where the event organizers know full well anyone attending will need a place to put their vehicle is a nuisance! It's bad enough the fans are forced to pay to park to watch the Washington Nationals (or any other MLB club), when all the players are multi-millionaires who play a game for a living. Most of the people in attendance won't see $1M in their entire lives and these guys get it in a few weeks for doing what our children do at recess in 4th grade!
You charge me a fantastically low price for a pair of tickets to watch the game. Why not raise the price a few dollars per ticket and nix the parking fees? It just seems silly to tell me I have to pay for a ticket to sit in the park and watch the game and then also tell me it's going to cost me another $5 if I want to get there in the first place. I'd rather pay $5 more for my seat than be forced to pay just for showing up.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Thu June 28, 2012 @ 2:37 PM
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I see that you took your wife to the baseball game & that you would like the $5.00 parking fee added to the ticket price.
I assume you were the one driving, & that your wife was with you in the car.
How would you wife like it if the parking fee was added to her ticket even though she came with you to the baseball game? She did not park the car. You did.
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by Tom S. Posted Sun June 24, 2012 @ 8:33 AM
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If you resent being "forced to pay to park to watch the Washington Nationals (or any other MLB club), when all the players are multi-millionaires who play a game for a living" and that "(m)ost of the people in attendance won't see $1M in their entire lives and these guys get it in a few weeks for doing what our children do at recess in 4th grade!" then DONT'T SUPPORT THE TEAM. That means not paying to see the game, not watching it on television (since the network has to pay the league in order to air the game) don't buy the team's merchandise, and don't cheer them on.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Sat June 23, 2012 @ 5:43 PM
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Do those people have to park somewhere else & pay? If so, they WILL NOT be happy.
So including the parking fee in the ticket price would not be a good idea.
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by PepperElf Posted Thu June 21, 2012 @ 7:20 PM
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They had a yearly jazz festival for the weekend. The festival itself was free but the parking was $5 a day.
Did I want to pay that? Hell no!
So... I walked.
Which also meant I could partake in the beer they sold. Which turned out to be not worth drinking (blah bud. canoe beer!)
But anyway yeah I walked.
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by DCGirl Posted Thu June 21, 2012 @ 1:59 PM
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The stadium is not owned by the Potomac Nationals; it's owned by Prince William County, where it is located. Any activity that takes place in the stadium (e.g., I think that Bob Dylan has played there on his NeverEnding Tour) has paid parking. That's something that's largely out of the team's control.
You also seem to link parking at Washington Nationals games in DC with parking at the P-Nats games in Virginia. While the P-Nats are a Nats farm team, the teams have different owners. The P-Nats are owned by Art Silber; the Nats are owned by Lerner family and other investors. What one team does in terms of parking at the facility it uses has no relationship to what the other team.
If you're not happy with the parking fees at the stadium in DC, you are free to do what the vast majority of Nats fans do for every game -- take public transporation.
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the less sense it made to me.
You say this is on "principle" about having to pay to park, but think about this: You're saying you'd rather have the parking rolled into the cost of the ticket.
Ok. Then you're still paying to park! Either way, they get your money, so who cares what they say it's for? Either way, you're still not getting out of paying the charge!
This makes NO SENSE at all to me!
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Plus...
by jeishere Thu June 21, 2012 @ 1:18 PM
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by kathleen m Posted Wed June 20, 2012 @ 5:47 AM
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You realise that your idea means you will have paid more overall than you would have had you just paid the posted parking fee.
You want to pay the $5 parking fee in your ticket price? Well NOW instead of say $10 per ticket and a $5 parking fee (so $25 for the event) you are paying $30 for the same event. What about the people who go with friends in a group? Or families who bring their kids? Because of your new pricing structure because you dont' think you should have to pay for parking, the cost for a family of 4 to go to the game will have increased by $15. For many, that is enough to say "No thanks"
This in turn means lost revenue for the club, and then either an increase in ticket prices again, in order to keep up with payroll etc, or the club folds and moves away because of lack of attendance.
Secondly - they need to pay for the land leased/owned for the parking. They need to pay to maintain it, and they need to pay the attendants who monitor it. Where is that money coming from if you don't want to pay for it?
MOST aa/aaa teams charge for parking. Heck, it is a BUSINESS. That's what they do. They are there to make money. I attend many AHL and OHL hockey games, and they charge for parking as well. Sure, it's the minor leagues but there are still costs involved. Heck, I had to pay for parking to attend my niece's primary school spring theatre production. Parking lots take up space, and that land costs money.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 1:44 PM
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http://www.milb.com/team1/page.jsp?ymd=20061219&content_id=149334&vkey =team1_t564&fext=.jsp&sid=t564
People who go to this minor league baseball team home games have to pay for their parking.
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by jeishere Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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Why should car poolers or a bus of little league kids be forced to pay extra money on their tickets to go toward parking when they don't need it.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 6:48 PM
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A company that receives one complaint will acknowledge that complaint, but they may or may not actually do something about that complain. But...if many people complain about the exact same thing, then the company acutally might do something.
So if the OP wants something done, he may have to wait until many people have complained about the exact same thing.
If management increases the price of the tickets, they could deal with many upset customers who do not park at the event. Management has to make the decision regarding what the best thing to do is given the situation.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 6:38 PM
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I once worked as a parking attendant at a parking garage located next to a movie theater. One company owned the movie theater. Another company owned the parking garage. The parking company I work for managed & provided the staff who worked inside the booth, but they did not manage the garage. The company that owned the parking garaged charged customers to park there. No one received free parking.
At one point the company that owned the parking garage chose to raise the parking fee. A sign was posted at the booth stating when the increase would be in effect as well as the parking fee.
One particular female customer was REALLY upset when she saw the big sign located outside the gargage with the new price. When she drove up to the booth, she complained about the price increase & asked me "how can you sleep at night?" I did not know what to say at that point. When she left, I laughed.
I asked my direct manager at the parking garage where do customers who are unhappy about the price increase go to complain about that. He told me that IF the parking company actually OWNED the garage, they could complain to the company. But since the parking company does not own the parking garage, then the customer has to complain to the company that actually owns the garage.
I asked a couple of people who worked in the movie theater if customers complained about the parking fee increase. They told me that customers did complain to them, but since the theater did not actually own the parking garage, they would have to complain to the company that owned the parking garage.
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What difference does it make if you pay $5 for parking or an extra $5 for the ticket?
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difference?
by InsaneShadow Tue June 19, 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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If I have to pay to park on the street in front of my own house, you can pay $5 to park at an event!
Park is never free at these kind of events. Whether it be a concert, baseball game, rodeo, circus. Amusement Parks & Zoo's also charge for parking.
Many cities make you pay to park on the street. My own city has made my neighborhood "permit parking only" because employee's from the nearby hospital & dr's offices were parking in the neighborhood and leaving behind a lot of trash, and crime was also going up. So now I have to pay $80 a year to park in front of my own house. And your complaining about $5 to watch a game?
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Most of the local hospitals near me charge people to park at the facility.
CHARGE PEOPLE EITHER HAVING PROCEDURES DONE OR CHARGE PEOPLE VISITING PATIENTS TO PARK!!!!!
The only people who get a pass are those in the ER (if there is room) and the spouse/SO of new Moms. Everyone else - from the 10 year old whos having his appendix out to the 85 year old grandmother who had a stroke - has to pay to park there.
So why do you think that you should be exempt from paying to to park to see a baseball game when someone with a medical reason to be in a location has to pay for their parking.
And you might want to pay more and not pay additional to park, but think about it - if you end up paying it in total anyway, does it really make a difference how they break it down for you?
Put it in perspective.....
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by Lisa H. Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 1:47 PM
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The math doesn't make sense. Parking was $5.00 for one car, right? If they charged an extra $5.00 per ticket, you would in effect be paying $10.00 for parking for the evening. Let's say you were a family of 4, that would be $20.00 you'd be paying.
And it really wouldn't be fair, as others have pointed out, for those who don't drive to the game and park at all.
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by Back_n_TX Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 1:41 PM
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Why does it matter whether you pay $5 for the tickets and $5 for parking, or pay $10 for the tickets? In the end, you still pay $10 for the experience.
Frankly, I'm generally more incensed about paying $5 for a soda that cost them about 45 cents to make, or $8.50 for a beer that costs them a $1.
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the point
by InsaneShadow Mon June 18, 2012 @ 4:07 PM
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by Steve OH (IO) Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 1:40 PM
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paying for parking is a part of modern life. If I go to the doctor (which costs far more than a minor-league game), I have to pay for parking. If I go downtown to shop, I pay for parking. This OP should catch a bus or park a few blocks away and walk to the park.
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by spunkyboy08 Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Michael A
I work in the parking business. I have worked for years as a parking attendant for baseball games, & every baseball game I worked at, customers have to pay for their parking.
Exactly where did you park at? Who owns those lots? Does the venue where the baseball game was held actually own the parking lots? If not, then you do have to pay for your parking.
If another company owns the parking lots, it does not matter who parks in those lots for whatever reason. You still have to pay for your parking. That is how it is with the parking company I work for.
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