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Rude Manager

Posted Mon June 18, 2012 5:47 pm, by Lisa P. written to Joe's Crab Shack in Vancouver, WA


My son recently graduated high school with honors and was student body president. He started looking for work in the food industry and thought Joe's Crab Shack would be a great place to work. He called the two managers, Brandon Allmendinger and Brian Smith several times because he was told they would be hiring for summer soon. One of the managers told him to call the kitchen manager, Todd, and see if he had anything open to apply on. My son called Todd and was treated like he was an idiot for even asking about employment there and asked why did he contact that manager (Todd) and if he had openings he would be contacting the applicants. It made him feel like he had done something wrong when all he was doing was making a proactive effort to find work to earn college money.

I think they owe him an apology. He did nothing wrong but was treated like he did. The managers should talk to each other and not tell applicants that they are hiring and who to talk to if they are not all on the same page. Young people feel inexperienced enough when trying for their first or second job without being treated so disrespectfully.


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by Kimeek Posted Thu July 5, 2012 @ 12:48 AM

I dont see how this is bad. They said if they had openings they would
call. I guess they had no openings. And its usually better to appear
in person when you are looking for a job and not call about one.That
is being proactive.

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by PepperElf Posted Fri June 22, 2012 @ 12:08 AM

" It made him feel like he had done something wrong"


That's because he DID do something wrong.


When you're trying to get hired you DO NOT call the boss back
repeatedly. You can ASK how you'll find out if you're hired or not.
You can ASK if you can call back to check up on the application
status.


BUT calling them back over and over just to ask if there's an
opening... NOT the way to get hired.


On top of that... they don't have to talk to you about this either.
Not unless your son's a minor.

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by Jo says Posted Wed June 20, 2012 @ 4:41 PM

Where I worked, if our employees got their parent's involved, it
proved to us that they werent mature enough to handle the job.

Please dont do that to your son!

Its time he fights his own battles. Let him. You wont always be there
and he has to learn to handle himself in situations like this.

It appears from your letter that he is a very intelligent young man. I
am sure he is quite capable of finding a job and handling himself. You
did your job. You apparently did a good job. Now its time to let him
take flight and do these kinds of things without your help. Because
seriously....you are just hurting him doing things like this.

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by andbran Posted Wed June 20, 2012 @ 12:30 PM

being a mom myself i know how hard it is to cut the cord.your son
should have put in an application like everyone else. your son should
be proud of his accomplishments in high school but he is in he real
world now.

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This! If you want a job, apply. asking over and over if there's an opening ... is NOT applying for a job. by PepperElf Fri June 22, 2012 @ 12:10 AM
by sarahsmile Posted Wed June 20, 2012 @ 11:46 AM

Your 18/19 yr old son can't have 'mommy' calling future/potential
employers for him.

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by RedheadwGlasses Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 2:37 PM

Time to disembark from the helicopter and let your son fight his own
battles, find his own employment, and voice his complaints.

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Lol by spunkyboy08 Tue June 19, 2012 @ 2:41 PM

by jeishere Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 1:13 PM

If you son can't have a little criticism from a manager, he's probably
not ready to hold a job. He's a big boy now to he should be able to
handle his own affairs without mama getting in the way.

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by McJohn Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 10:19 AM

As someone who hires from time to time let me offer some advice

1) Dont call "several" times and bug the managers. If we are hiring
it will be in the paper or on the front window (or online).
Personally if someone keeps calling me I wont hire them, if they bug
me that much on the phone will I be able to stand them in the office
10 hours a day.

2) for any restaurant do not call at any meal time or just prior to
any meal time.

3) go in person, fill out the application, if they need someone they
will call you. One followup call would be fine.

And thanks to this letter I doubt your son will ever work for them.

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SO TRUE! by mswaim Thu June 21, 2012 @ 7:57 AM

by Bill R. Posted Mon June 18, 2012 @ 6:30 PM

Lisa P.,

I see your point but then we don't know what was going on on the other
end of the phone. Did the call happen to fall during a peak meal
period? Was he in the process of checking in a massive food/supply
order etc ? No excuses but I think you see where I am headed.

These days there are literally hundreds of applicants for single
positions and I am sure some managers get torn dealing with the well
meaning calls.

As a manager of people I learned alot about managing people by seeing
it done well and sometimes not so well. It was up to me to decide
which style to use as my own.

Great that your son graduated with honors and was president of his
class. However, when all that ended his real life education started.
Maybe he will take away some useful tidbits from this experience.

Before someone else asks I'll ask why he did not write this letter
himself ( with some mods )in the hopes of shooting a copy to the
manager to get his attention is a sort of Hail Mary Play to land that
job?

Tell him good luck moving forward.

BillR.


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by spunkyboy08 Posted Tue June 19, 2012 @ 8:41 AM

Lisa P

I am sure that you want the best for your son, & that as a mom, you
would do anything for him, but I have to agree with Bill R.

Your son needs to write the complaint letter instead of you.

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