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The WORST interview experience ever
Posted Sun September 24, 2006 9:37 pm, by Andrea S. written to JCPenney Company, Inc.
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The interview experience is already nervewrecking without the interviewer making it even worse. I didn't expect to get the job before writing this and I definitely don't expect to get it now. I was scheduled for an interview at 10:00 am and arrived 10 minutes prior at a Jacksonville, Florida location. She wasn't there yet so I waited (which was a first). When she finally came out, she called me by another applicant's name with her paperwork in her hand which I thought was tacky.
On the way back to her office, she makes smalltalk and asked if I were originally from there. When I told her I moved there from California, she began to make unnecessary comments starting with, "I know you're glad to get out of there."
Once the interview started, it lasted about 5 minutes. After she explained the job description to me, she asked about my availability. I told her I had classes 2 nights a week and I prefer not to work on those days including a Saturday. She said "Well that wouldn't work because that's a big money making day. We make over xxx amount of dollars,etc.." I tried to work with her saying I could do some Saturdays and she said she'd make it a short day like 6 hours. On a class day? I don't think so. It was definitely my worst interview.
With JcPenney being such a reputable company, I definitely was expecting more of an enjoyable interview experience. Maybe they should consider more than one person conducting the interview.
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by James H.G. Posted Fri September 29, 2006 @ 6:32 PM
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I worked a full time job while I was going to school full-time. Graduated in three years with a BA and a BS too - so trust me, two nights per week may be stressful but it can get worse (try six)!
While in college my job was in retail, so that meant most days I was working 6 days a week, and ALWAYS the weekends! Our HR person would auto reject anyone that put they weren't available on Saturday - so as others have put, be thankful they were even willing to work with you.
You really don't have to have the entire day off when you have classes. Go to class in your work clothes, and go to work. As others have mentioned, we've all done it.
And of course the fact that your writing a letter to the Company complaining about the interview is so insane its surreal.
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by Tracy S. Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 12:53 PM
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Let me get this straight...you applied for a job at one of the most popular retail clothing stores in the country and expected to have partial weekends off? Nice try.
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by Peregrina Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 3:58 AM
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Truthfully, if you put on your app that you would not be able/willing to work on Saturdays, then I'm suprised you were called in for an interview at all.
Like many others here, I worked part-time/full-time the entire time I was in school, including during my student teaching. (Which felt like having a part-time job and a full-time job at the same time, in addition to classes.)
Most of my managers were great about working around my schedule, but only if I was willing to meet them halfway, which included days when I came to work still dressed in my 'teacher' clothes and would write lesson plans while on break.
I do wonder, however, why anyone would expect interviews to be enjoyable. It's an interview, not a party. Frankly, as long as they didn't throw stuff, consider it a good interview.
(True story. During the interview for my first 'college job', two employees got into a fight and when the store manager tried to intervene, they started throwing anything they could get their hands on. As it was in the kitchen of a fast food joint, this included frozen hamburger patties, fries, various condiments like ketchup, mustard and mayo, as well as fixins like tomatoes, onions and lettuce.The employees were fired on the spot, but had to clean the kitchen before they were allowed to leave.)
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by Cass Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 12:58 PM
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It seems pretty clear that this job wouldn't work out for you, since you're unable to work the hours they need. That is most likely why the interview was so short - I'm sure her decision was made then and there and she saw no need to waste your time or hers.
As for your complaints about the woman herself, I don't know why you objected to her small talk. That's generally done to relax the candidate and help make the interview easier for you. I'm sorry you were offended by her comment about California, but I doubt she said it to be mean. And as for picking up the wrong paperwork on her way to greet you, well, was that such a horrendous error? I'm certain she apologized when you corrected her.
Have you been on many job interviews before? I don't think I've ever had one that started on time.
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LOL
by Cass Thu September 28, 2006 @ 8:14 AM
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by JuliePie Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 9:10 AM
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I would like to tell you to try waiting tables. I've found a lot of restaurants are flexible with the hours you can work. Many of them even ask for your availablility on the application, and build your schedule around the hours YOU can work. The last place I worked and the current job I'm at let me build a schedule around my family's busy schedule. As an added bonus, a lot of chains, like TGI Friday's, offer tuition reimbursement programs. Plus, you can make $20/hr. easy on a busy night.
JCPenney's just didn't have a need for someone with your schedule. If you didn't like the interview experience, let it go. I think if I had a bad feeling after an interview, I wouldn't even take the job if it was offered to me.
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by Nicole F Posted Wed September 27, 2006 @ 12:37 AM
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Obviously if you got so upset over a simple interview, then working retail really isn't for you. Trust me, it's a tough job and if you are a full time student like me, it's even harder. I can understand why the interviewer would be reluctant to take on an employee who is unable to work Saturdays. It's an important, high sales day in retail.
If you go to a university or a junior college, maybe you should try and look on campus for a student friendly job. Usually those jobs are decent paying and your employers work around your class schedule.
Best of luck.
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by p d Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 6:03 PM
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Tacky? Maybe you didn't notice but she's human. I take it you've never made a mistake in your life.
And the woman was trying to work with you. I'd say the company did themselves a favor by not hiring you.
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by snurli Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 5:16 PM
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That was your worst interview ever? Thank your lucky stars and take the advice of the previous posters to heart. Oh, and hang on because at some point you'll get the interviewer who believes in the "stress interview" and talk about unenjoyable. From your letter, it appears that the interviewer didn't discriminate against you on the basis of race, religion, gender or ethnicity. Californian doesn't count as an ethnicity as far as I know. She made a mistake about your name, which, in the grand scheme of things isn't really that bad. She was asking you about what hours you could work--evidently you weren't a match for the company. Comments about California--get over it. I'm from Montana. You think I catch s*#t when I leave the state??? Buck up.
Wait until you are faced with the truly illegal and immoral. Try being called a bohunk (where the slur means something) or being asked how you, as a girl, would handle clients or being asked what church you go to or how many babies you're going to have or any number of inappropriate questions that make you want to reach over and rip the interviewer's heart out...but you can't because there aren't many jobs, unemployment is so high and, dear god, you really need health insurance and so you're willing to put up with anything and you smile weakly and field the question to the best of your ability. Exhale.
All I can say is that if this letter truly reflects your expectations when interviewing for jobs, I think you're going to have a rough go of it down the road. Interviews are work on both sides of the table and they aren't meant to be a tea party. It's business.
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by snurli Wed September 27, 2006 @ 10:53 AM
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Maybe another reason you did not get the job was because you had attitude about the interview being late, and about her saying the wrong name. They don't want their other employees complaining that Andrea here shows an attitude whenever something goes wrong or whenever she does not get her way.
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by Newfie Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 1:28 PM
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Let me tell you as someone who has been on both sides of the interview process - that wasn't a bad interview. It only seemed bad because it didn't go your way.
Let's take this step by step.
She called the wrong name. It happens. She doesn't know you from Adam and she is interviewing a slew of people. She has an armful of paperwork and just had the wrong one. It was a mistake. We all make them. Jsut laugh it off and don't let it shake you.
secondly. The interview started the minute she came and called you in, which means from the second she saw you she was sizing you up. Everything from how you reacted to that name incident and the question regarding California - those were all part of the actual interview. She was trying to get a glimpse of who you are. Sure the question may not have been the best, but again, find a way to turn it around.
The actual office part of the interview is never really that long - 5 minutes is MORE than enough time to get a read on someone. Your body language, whether you are actively listening, asking pertinent questions yourself THOSE are the important things.
Your availability put her in a tough place. I'm sorry but if you can't work the high volume days when you are most needed, then of course they will look for someone else who CAN work those shifts.
I worked full time while I was in school full time. It IS possible. I have students who work for me now. I can accomodate a lot of schedules, but you have to have flexibility and you seemed to be firm in your stance that you weren't going to work on a school day. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.
You will need to learn to be more flexible with your schedule because if you are unable to commit to weekends - specifically high volume days like Saturdays, then you are going to find it tough getting a job.
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by Alley Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 12:52 PM
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ok with the wrong paperwork.. simple mistake... with the "small talk".. bad question to ask/say.. with the availability.. shes just telling you like it is.. they make XXX amount that day.. shes trying to get people that she needs to work.. i Dont see how thats bad.. I take 3 classes.. and am available for at least a few hours every day of the week. If they dont want to schedule me.. thats their choice. this lady has probably interviewed so many people.. she just cuts to the chase and doesn't waste time. I honestly don't see how this was a "bad interview".. But i'm probably wrong.
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by tickytack Tue September 26, 2006 @ 1:25 PM
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by dragonflygrrl Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 11:18 AM
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I work in retail. Yesterday I had probably eight customers treat me with a total lack of respect, at least two of whom were actively rude. One man flat-out accused me of lying to him when I said we were out of the item he wanted. With the exception of maybe two regulars, no one knew or cared what my name was. In the course of my career working with the public, I have been assaulted verbally and physically, and have called the police to get rid of belligerent customers more times than I can count. I have been called names I wouldn't want my mom to think I know.
I have had bosses that scheduled me 36 hours during finals week, that scheduled me too few hours to pay for the gas to get to work, and that made my job twice as hard as it needed to be through their incompetence. One of them was unable to remember my last name until the day I finally quit. To be fair, I have had some great bosses that genuinely cared about my well-being too.
Through all that, I have smiled, nodded, and dutifully done my best to help my customers, because that is the job at hand. Anyone that thinks retail is for sissies should think again. Dealing with customers requires thick skin and the ability to stay on point no matter what. If you are thrown off your game by something as insignificant as being called by the wrong name, working in
retail would make you miserable. Count yourself lucky and move on. Good luck.
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BRAVO!
by JME Wed September 27, 2006 @ 8:51 AM
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by tickytack Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 9:01 AM
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Hmmm. It sounds to me that you didn't make yourself available when they would have needed you to work and that, therefore, you are the reason the interview went downhill.
Personally, I don't think PFB is the place for such a complaint - you interviewed and you didn't get the job. That isn't what this forum is for.
As far as the small talk and the *GASP* calling of the wrong name, it doesn't appear that the interviewer was saying anything egregiously rude - seems to me that she was merely trying to lighten the mood. You, on the other hand, are hypersensitive, it would seem.
And as someone else posted, here's a bit of constructive criticism for you - you need to make yourself available to employers. I, too, worked all through college. I fail to see why it should be such an issue to work on days you also have classes.
It's called real life.
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by Becks Posted Tue September 26, 2006 @ 7:33 AM
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You've GOT to be kidding!
Let's see, you had to wait ten minutes for the interviewer. How horrible.
She called by the wrong name. BIG DEAL. She probably had twenty resumes sitting on her desk that morning. It was an honest mistake. Are you really that sensitive? Trust me, if you are...you dont' want to work in retail anyway.
And what's the deal about not working on days you have classes? I worked all through college and grad school and waitressed mornings before taking the train into the city for my evening classes. This is the REAL WORLD kid. Wake up and smell the coffee. The world doesn't revolve around your class schedule.
She even tried to work with your schedule, offering you a shorter day? That's RARE.
You're a whiny brat. Sorry. This letter was stupid.
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by calm Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 11:02 PM
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Congratulations. If this is your idea of the worst interview experience ever, you've had a pretty nice life. I hope that you continue to have a nice life, because everybody should. You may, however, want to find a different field than retail, even if you're just working a job until you finish school and get started on a career.
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by gb Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 10:55 PM
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wow, the worst interview experience I ever had was when the office manager took me to an office for an interview, left to use the bathroom and never came back. It was after 5 and there was no one there. I later found out she had a huge drinking problem. I lived through that and you shall live through your horrific experience too.
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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 9:53 PM
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What a shame a company refuses to bend to your strict timelines and schedules-especially on their busiest days!!. I can't even imagine being treated this way...after showing up ten whole minutes before!!
Please tell me this is some kind of joke. We're talking retail here and it's a given that the employee works according to the company's schedule. Saturdays (and sometimes Sundays) are mandatory becuse it's those two days worth of business that make up for the other five day's of slow business or loss. Most retail establishments need the most help on weekends and weekday nights.
Though your letter IS well written, it's totally uncalled for. If this is THE WORST interview experience you ever had... consider yourself blessed. Seriously if you expect a retail company to give you saturdays and two days off a week besides that...then maybe retail isn't the field for you.
Oh by the way, JCPenny's isn't laughing AT you they're laughing WITH you!!!!!
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by T K Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 4:44 PM
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WORST? Im sorry to read you consider this interview your 'worst . . . experience ever'. If you didn't expect to get the job why'd you waste their time?
Your schedule does not come first when it comes to retail. You'd be lucky to find businesses willing to work around your schedule. Word of advice in applying for a retail job, leave your availability open. Once you set the days you cannot work, especially weekends, that'll be the last time your application sees the light of day.
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I just think it's inappropriate to be addressing a personal job-related problem in this manner, via this website.
Even if I thought you had valid complaints, which I don't think you do, there are proper channels to go through for such things.
Besides, I always figure, if the interview process is bad, do you really want to work for them?
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by Jeffrey Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:54 PM
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Dear Andrea,
We were considering you for a position in sales, but now that we're read you letter, we think you should be head of Human Resources. You clearly know a heck of a lot about how to run an organization. Our current head of HR never thought of letting people work whenever they wanted. But, gosh, you've got a great idea there. Never mind the customers. We don't need 'em, you and me, Andrea.
Oh, and since you seem to have zero tolerance for getting names wrong, we're "JCPenney," not "JcPenney." Darn trademarks.
Signed,
JCPenney CEO
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by vc Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 11:26 AM
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"I didn't expect to get the job before writing this"
I question this a little. As someone with a few job interviews under his belt, I sense that you were not in the right state of mind about this interview. I could be wrong, but you seem like as soon as she mistook your name and made the California comment, you got out of the mind set you needed.
Without getting preachy, or acting like I'm down on you, I would like to tell you that the interview is YOUR time. Don't let the interviewer get you off of your feet because of a mistaken name or snide comment. Own the person doing the interview. If you were perturbed by the comments, then I'll bet a person that does interviews for a living could sense your unease. The job hours you requested probably were the biggest hurdle, but use this as a learning experience. Keep your chin up and walk in next time like you belong there and they would do well to hire you. Even if they say your name wrong or make a crappy comment. Be confident and the rest will fall into place.
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by Call Me Bright Side Amanda Tue September 26, 2006 @ 9:21 AM
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by *Brenda* Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 10:35 AM
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If you say you won't work a Saturday most retail places won't even give you a second thought.
At least she was trying to work with you.
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by mary jo Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Welcome to the real world!! Its nice to have you here. Get comfy..its going to be a bumpy ride!!
I have been on both sides of the interview table and its nerve wrecking from both sides. That first few things you complained about were nit picky. She was trying to make small talk with you. Trying to make you feel more relaxed and at ease. So she called you by the wrong name. BIG DEAL! It happens. Maybe she looked at the wrong paper. Maybe she got confused. Maybe she was having a stressful day. She IS only HUMAN after all. Its not like she was trying to offend you or tick you off.
And as for the comment about California..if you didnt agree then all you had to do was carry on YOUR side of the conversation and explain if she was right or wrong. Personally, I have lived in Jacksonville Florida all my life except for a few years that I lived in California. And to be honest, I was DEFINATELY glad to get get out of there and dont plan to ever go back and dont want to live anywhere else BUT Jacksonville Florida. And a lot of us who live here feel the same way. Maybe she was wrong to assume that you felt the same way but considering that she said it in question format that left it open for you to agree or not. What was your reply??
Personally, to me, it seems you are trying to get the interviewer in trouble because you dont like how the interview went.
As for the rest of it, well, the retail business doesnt stop. And after years of Human Resources trying desperately to cover a schedule with people who have VERY limited schedules...most of them are just refusing to do so anymore. There arent many other jobs, other than retail, where you get to pick your own schedule or say when you will or wont work. Either you work when they say so or you dont work at all.
If you have a night class then why cant you work during the day? That makes no sense. You go to work, go to school, go home. Easy as that. If you want to work bad enough or need the money bad enough you will figure out a way to open your schedule more. I know people who work 40 hours a week and go to school full time. There is a way to make it work.
It isnt their fault that you cant fit working their schedule into your schedule. Next job interview you might want to find a job that coincides better with your life. Retail obviously doesnt work for you.
I am glad to see that retail employers are not just hiring anyone who walks in the door just to fill a slot. I cant tell you how many times we have had to stretch people to cover hours because too many people are on the schedule who just dont want to work..or cant.
Writing this letter shows your immaturity. I dont think you are ready for this level of responsiblity.
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by Gerald R Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 9:32 AM
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You essentially limited yourself to working 4 out of the 7 days of the week. Most employers won't go for that. I wouldn't hire you either. That's probably why the interview only lasted 5 minutes. You were starting to "tie their hands" even before starting the first day.
In retail (and with a lot of other businesses that hire part-timers) there is this built-in conflict between the management staff and the part-time staff. This conflict is due to the different levels of priority that they place with their jobs. For the management staff the job is usually the number 1 or 2 priority in their lives. With the part-time staff it's, for the most part, not as high as it is for the management staff. In the interview you have to at least appear to be placing the job that your interviewing for as a top priority. The more you relegate it downward as a priority the less chance you will have at being hired for it.
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by Call Me Bright Side Amanda Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 8:48 AM
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I really hope you are kidding. This was crazy
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by Mr. Mafia Posted Mon September 25, 2006 @ 12:51 AM
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If you want to work for a company then you have to be prepared to do the hours that they give you.
I have been through what you have been through. Ever since I was 16, I went to school, worked parttime until 11 pm, 12 during Christmas holidays. I did my homework during breaks because the shifts would start a few hours after school. (ofcourse this was not every day). I had mostly weekend shifts. There are many people that go to work and school at the same day why should you be any different.
If you really want the job then you should take what they are offereing. They were willing to work around your school hours. Also they probably require that new hires work weekends, the longer you have been working in a company the better hours they give you.
If you are not willing to even meet them halfway then maybe you are not mature enough to work yet. If you want a job, you can't have things your way, you have to go by what they want.
Perhaps you can try finding employment elsewhere, also be willing to give in a little. That is if you really want the job.
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Well since you wrote a complaint letter, even if you were going to get the job, you probably won't now.
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by Venice Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 11:31 PM
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This is a peculiar letter, and I'm not sure what you are expecting to gain or are trying to accomplish by writing it.
I think you did not find the interview enjoyable because Penney's couldn't accommodate your schedule. The interviewer agreed to limit the amount of Saturdays at your request, and yet you were still unhappy with the number of hours. If you really wanted the job, you wouldn't be so nitpicky about the interviewer. You're probably going to have a hard time finding an employer willing to work around your school schedule, especially during the upcoming holiday season.
Good luck.
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by Iconophiliac Posted Sun September 24, 2006 @ 10:10 PM
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I hate bad interviews too but.. how would having more than one person make it a better interview experience?
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing you wrote the company on this, at least you chose to say something. I doubt anything can or will be done though.
Good luck on finding a job, I know it can be hard when you have classes.
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