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Children not wanted at Kaufmann's

Posted Sun June 25, 2006, by Nichole K. written to Kaufmann's Department Stores

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I was in a dressing room with my two children aged 3 and 2. The three of us were singing silly songs and dancing while I tried on my dresses when a sales associate knocked on the door. As soon as I opened it she stated that there have been complaints and if my children did not quiet down she would call security to take us out of the store. I have NEVER seen such rudeness in my life. She was not polite about it in any way. As she walked away she gave dirty looks to the other two women who were shopping with me. To add to the awful experience the security tag was never taken off my dress and I now have to return to the store to have it removed.

Employees should be trained to discuss problems with customers. IF we were being loud and there were complaints a better way to handle it would have been to ask me if everything was going okay and then maybe said something along the lines of "I know that you are shopping with small children but there have been some complaints. Do you think you could be a bit quieter?". I would have been very receptive and understanding if I had been approached in that manner. She immediately threatened to call security... on a 3 and 2 year old!


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by JJ Fiskins Posted Sun October 11, 2015 @ 9:55 AM

Thanks for bumping this, may be travelling in the direction of some of
the old Kaufmann's flagship stores this winter and will definitely
give them a look see. It's always nice to add to my list of places to
shop that are ADULT FRIENDLY.

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.. by JJ Fiskins Sun October 11, 2015 @ 9:56 AM
by cissy Posted Wed April 23, 2014 @ 7:45 PM

I seriously don't think that singing with your children and having fun
while you try on clothing would disturb other customers, If I was in
the next dressing room I would join in! Are you overreacting? This
type of reaction is crying for attention of another kind. Please move
on and enjoy your kids. Take them to a park, library, a walk on the
beach(if available). Let it go.

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Well considering that the youngest child is now 10 years old, it might not be an issue anymore by PepperElf Tue May 6, 2014 @ 3:29 PM
by Luv-a-llama Posted Wed October 15, 2008 @ 11:52 PM

hahahaha! i remember this one... XD

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by rickrooney Posted Tue July 22, 2008 @ 4:53 PM

IT'S ALIVE!!!

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by Chris M Posted Sun May 18, 2008 @ 12:11 PM

This letter will never die :)

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by pokervixxen Posted Sat April 21, 2007 @ 10:14 PM

What happened when you spoke to the retail manager?

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We discussed that roughly 9 months ago... by Twinkle Toes (is back!) Wed April 25, 2007 @ 3:43 PM


by rxgirl Posted Mon February 12, 2007 @ 12:52 PM

:)

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YOU SUCK! by Starlight22203 Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:34 PM


You suck too by LadyMac Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:34 PM

STOP IT by Starlight22203 Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:35 PM


No by LadyMac Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:36 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOO by Starlight22203 Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:37 PM


He did not (n/t) by LadyMac Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:38 PM

Well... by Starlight22203 Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:40 PM


I am sure he's just very busy by LadyMac Mon February 12, 2007 @ 1:41 PM


Hmmmm....what do you all think? by Chris M Mon February 12, 2007 @ 10:06 PM


Can I play, too:)~ n/t by PaintedLady Mon February 12, 2007 @ 10:03 PM


Of course you can PL... by Chris M Mon February 12, 2007 @ 10:08 PM

If this letter makes into the top 25... by Starlight22203 Tue February 13, 2007 @ 9:06 AM


Uh oh....would you really??!?! :( :( :( N/T by Chris M Thu February 15, 2007 @ 8:16 AM

by LadyMac Posted Fri December 29, 2006 @ 2:23 PM

Most Debated Letter.

Way to go, Starlight.

*bump*

>:)

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Congratulations!!! by ~Leanne~ Fri December 29, 2006 @ 2:26 PM


Woooo by Chris M Wed February 7, 2007 @ 10:40 PM
by SandyPeabody Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 1:03 AM

thats sad because children are are future

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That's sad by HurricaneCentral Fri March 2, 2007 @ 8:21 PM

by Michael Vermont Posted Tue October 31, 2006 @ 8:06 AM

You and your bratty kids making loud noises in a small dressing room
and they asked you to be quiet and be considerate to others?

Oh the humanity!

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OH the humanity by Rock Star Amanda Wed November 1, 2006 @ 3:14 PM

by DJay Posted Sun October 29, 2006 @ 11:04 AM

Why is thi still going........

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Vampire Zombie Robots of the Death Sun Cannot Be Killed! by The Original Nethead Mon October 30, 2006 @ 12:47 PM

Now that is funny!! by C A Mon October 30, 2006 @ 12:53 PM

by Rock Star Amanda Posted Fri October 27, 2006 @ 1:34 PM

Just for Poops and Giggles...if this was written today...Kids wouldn't
be wanted at Macy's!

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Shut up! by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Fri October 27, 2006 @ 1:44 PM

ha ha ha ha ha by Skatergirl Fri October 27, 2006 @ 11:25 PM


i really hope by Rock Star Amanda Sat October 28, 2006 @ 8:48 AM


by tater30 Posted Wed October 25, 2006 @ 8:33 PM

What tha!?! Not again! *lol*

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by Call Me Bright Side Amanda Posted Mon October 23, 2006 @ 11:31 AM

After meeting your kids...
I'd be jumping for joy Danny Jr wasnt crying about something! LOL.

5 words for ya
"Can mommy have another baby?"

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by rxgirl---In quiet protest Posted Sun October 22, 2006 @ 12:13 AM

:0)

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And it makes a comeback... by Jeffrey Mon October 23, 2006 @ 11:27 AM


Shame on you, Rx Girl by MA Loper Mon October 23, 2006 @ 11:31 AM


MA ----I swear it was back in the top 20 before I posted to it on Friday.... by rxgirl---In quiet protest Mon October 23, 2006 @ 12:16 PM


I'm backing up rxgirl by LadyMac Mon October 23, 2006 @ 1:13 PM

STOP IT by Starlight22203-- #1 Commentor as named by Erik! Mon October 23, 2006 @ 1:28 PM


I couldn't agree more. by Erik - PFB Site Moderator Mon October 23, 2006 @ 2:03 PM


"Please" = post away! Erik needs more to do! n/t by RedheadWGlasses Tue October 24, 2006 @ 8:50 AM


Yeah - you know I do! by MA Loper Tue October 24, 2006 @ 9:15 AM

by granolagirl Posted Thu September 14, 2006 @ 12:34 AM

If your children are not 'wanted' and their musical 'talents' are not
appreciated at Kaufman's then I need to find the closest location and
shop there religiously. Lady, not everyone is interested in listening
to a couple of little brats screech some dumb kid song. I would have
complained too.

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Who said anything about little brats? n/t by Starlight22203 Thu September 14, 2006 @ 4:38 PM


wow by Call Me Bright Side Amanda Fri September 29, 2006 @ 1:28 PM

Really, get over yourself g-girl by Grassymarie Mon October 23, 2006 @ 10:40 AM

by Gretchen Shiveley Posted Mon September 11, 2006 @ 9:02 PM

I vote that we remove this letter from the top 20.

Before that happens, though, I would like to put my two cents in.

If the woman wasn't being overly loud and obnoxious, I see no problem
in the manner that she occupied her children, and the sales associate
could have been more tactful in speaking to her. Threatening to call
security was a bit overboard. Her children were not running around the
store and pulling things off shelves. They were not making a mess.
They were not a danger to themselves or anyone in the store.

I usually agree with most of the comments on PFB. I work in a
restaurant and there is nothing more I hate than parents who prefer to
let their children "express themselves" by screaming, running around,
and throwing food. But honestly, everyone is acting like people don't
have any right to ever have their children in public. Sometimes
parents have to take their kids on errands, shopping, etc...and
sometimes it's just as unpleasant for the parent as it is for other
patrons. I hate those chaotic days when I have to drag my son to the
store or bank or DVM. It makes him cranky and it makes me cranky, too.
All of you act like parents expect the world to revolve around them
and their kids, but it really seems like all of you expect the world
to revolve around you by not being "inconvienced" by the mere presence
of children. Get over yourselves.

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Excellent response. by Ree Tue September 19, 2006 @ 7:39 AM
by Susan Davis Posted Mon September 11, 2006 @ 3:09 PM

As a mother of 2, also ages 1 and 2 I completely understand. I would
rather hear a mom and kids singing (quietly if possible) than to hear
two kids yelling and whining. If you are like me you have to take
your children w/ you everywhere and it's not always a picnic to have
to do that. You do what you can to keep them semi quiet. Target is
another store that is not too great. I had both babies secured in a
cart and they wouldn't let me take the cart into the dressing room,
not even the actual stall. I left the cart and the clothes and left
Target. I'm not about to leave my kids or have them running loose in
a dressing room while I am half naked and have to run after them.

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by tater30 Posted Wed September 6, 2006 @ 8:20 AM

oh my god.... this letter is STILL here.... my eyes are starting to
bleed....

*pops another birth control pill so she will never ever ever have this
problem*

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Too funny by HurricaneCentral Thu September 7, 2006 @ 3:31 AM
by jenjen1960 Posted Mon September 4, 2006 @ 6:54 PM

I'll bet you are one of those parents who is always shoving a stroller
into the back of my legs when I'm walking ahead of you. STOP IT.

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Nope. Not me. n/t by Starlight22203 Mon September 4, 2006 @ 8:50 PM


Here's a tip: by Jeffrey Mon September 4, 2006 @ 8:58 PM

by HurricaneCentral Posted Sat September 2, 2006 @ 3:34 AM

You, as an adult and parent, should have known better. I mean, you
weren't at the park or McDonald's playland. I can certainly understand
why there were complaints.

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by Lily Munster Posted Wed August 30, 2006 @ 9:09 AM

Something you just don't seem to understand - a store is NOT a public
place. It is privately owned. It is private property. It is not
public property. Public property is owned by a town, state or country
and is allotted for the use of the public.

That cleared up, the employee was entirely in line to tell you to clam
up, because you don't just get to act any way you want to on private
property. Stores have the right to refuse any service to anyone for
any reason, period. Since a store is private property, the store
owner/management has the ability to limit the behavior of their
customers in any way, shape or form. If they don't want people
dancing and singing silly songs in their dressing rooms, they are
completely within their rights to put a stop to it, and if the person
being told to stop doesn't comply, they have every right to call
security.

If you want to dance and sing silly songs, do it on public property,
like a park. Not on someone's private property.

I own a shop, and know the laws. A shop owner or store owner can
limit the behavior that goes on in their private property in any way
they see fit, and they can throw out or exclude anyone they want to
exclude - just as you can throw anyone out of your home, or exclude
them from entering in the first place. Ever see the sign "we retain
the right to refuse service to anyone"? That's perfectly legal,
because businesses are private property.

So you, and everyone here who takes your side, are way out of line. A
store has to provide a safe environment, and there are certain other
guidelines that they must meet by law, such as carrying liability
insurance, but allowing customers to do any thing they please, be it
breastfeeding in a dressing room or singing silly songs and dancing,
is not something that stores are required to do.

Wake up and smell the roses. The world is not your "public property"
where you can do whatever you want - and setting an example for your
kids where you allow them to indulge in inappropriate behavior on
someone else's private property is really a bit much.

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Apparently you don't know the laws as well as you think you do... by Starlight22203 Wed August 30, 2006 @ 10:45 AM

So are you by Peregrina Thu September 7, 2006 @ 3:10 AM

I wasn't threatening to whip my breast out... by Starlight22203 Thu September 7, 2006 @ 10:17 PM


As much as I am breaking my own rule. . . by MA Loper Wed August 30, 2006 @ 3:36 PM

Amen MA by Starlight22203 Wed August 30, 2006 @ 3:54 PM


It's the least I could do : ) (n/t) by MA Loper Wed August 30, 2006 @ 4:54 PM

Are You Kidding Me? by Shannon Manis Mon October 23, 2006 @ 10:22 AM
by bigtigger Posted Sat August 26, 2006 @ 12:52 AM

This is my favorite letter ever! It puts a smile on my face everytime
I read it and see the comments!

Don't let this ever fall out of the Top 20! It is such an inspiration
(for laughter, that is!)

:-)

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by RedheadWGlasses Posted Wed August 23, 2006 @ 1:55 PM

In my quest to keep these old letters in the top 20 forever (out of
love and respect for MA Loper) ;) I think I'll just start posting
Whitesnake lyrics to them.

Who knows where the cold wind blows
I ask my friends but nobody knows
Who am I to believe in love
oh, oh, love ain't no stranger...

See how pleasant that can be? ;)

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Hey - are those lyrics copyrighted? LOL by Tracy M Wed August 23, 2006 @ 1:57 PM


It's not David Coverdale you need to fear by RedheadWGlasses Wed August 23, 2006 @ 2:13 PM


And. . . by MA Loper Fri September 1, 2006 @ 3:08 PM

Red... you are such a trouble maker! ;) (n/t) by Starlight22203 Wed August 23, 2006 @ 3:55 PM


by djay Posted Mon August 21, 2006 @ 2:55 PM

Thats rude....I dont have kids....and as long as I dont hear screaming
and crying that the parents are not trying to handle, I really dont
care thats why its called PUBLIC, you interact with people in PUBLIC,
and the PUBLIC makes noise, so if you really dont like listening to
peoples kids or people, shop online! Besides that wow I was reading
through this and it got pretty petty.......

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by Tracy Snavely Posted Tue August 15, 2006 @ 1:46 PM

I can see both points of view, but also have to laugh cause all of you
"childless" people commenting on this should realize that a lot of you
will probably have your own "brats" someday and while you may say now
that you would never do something like that in a public place, when
you have kids...things change. Nothing annoys me more than hearing a
mother screaming at her kids, so at least this mother was only
entertaining them. While I may have eventually gotten annoyed by the
singing, it probably was only going to last a few minutes. We parents
are not always able to leave the kids at home when we shop and believe
me when I say that some of us will do anything to keep them
entertained.

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hey hey hey by AmandaBanana Thu August 17, 2006 @ 1:45 PM


Me too! by RedheadWGlasses Thu August 17, 2006 @ 5:41 PM
by Chris Pattullo Posted Mon August 14, 2006 @ 6:13 PM

After reading some of the back and forth on this letter, I have lost
what respect I once had for four individuals: The OP, plus three
others. Shameful!

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by JenJen Posted Mon August 7, 2006 @ 10:31 AM

People keep mentioning they don't like kids and shouldn't have to
listen to them. Well, there are a lot of things I don't like to deal
with when shopping either - such as people who don't realize that they
can take the other end of their Nextel call off of speakerphone so at
least everyone is only subjected to half of a conversation, not a
whole one...but, I digress. Unless they were screaming their songs, I
think other customers should just shut up and deal with it. Yes, maybe
it's annoying, but really...how long are you in a dressing room? Five
minutes at the most usually. Not an obscenely long time, and not to
mention the fact that if some customers are getting annoyed that in a
store like Kaufmann's there are plenty of other dressing rooms they
could visit. Back to the OP's point of being threatened with security,
unless she was belligerent when asked to quiet down, I think that was
totally uncalled for.

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The whole world shouldn't have to share in your songs or your phone calls. by inanna68 Mon August 14, 2006 @ 3:10 PM
by lovescats Posted Mon August 7, 2006 @ 2:29 AM

Okay. Children and NOT wanted at Kaufman's; deal with it.

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I think the phrase is... by Jeffrey Mon August 7, 2006 @ 4:33 PM

I agree by Lisa Smith Mon August 7, 2006 @ 4:41 PM

I think the phrase is... by lovescats Wed August 9, 2006 @ 1:36 PM
by Dawn Burton Posted Sun August 6, 2006 @ 8:46 PM

Ya I could do without you and your brats singing in a public
place...take it home and sing with PBS so I don't have to listen to
this drivel... thanks be my kids are grown!

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Are you telling me... by Jeffrey Mon August 7, 2006 @ 3:56 PM


Jeffrey by Leanne L Mon August 7, 2006 @ 6:26 PM

by K G Posted Sun August 6, 2006 @ 8:39 PM

Thank god she said something, when I'm shopping I don't want to hear
your children, theres a reason I don't have them. I shouldn't be
subjected to them singing or screaming. Common sense. If I walked
through a store cursing at the top of my lungs I'm SURE you would have
something to say about it.

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Children not wanted at Kaufmann's by Nate&Natsmom Tue August 8, 2006 @ 1:06 PM

Re: by K G Tue August 8, 2006 @ 9:57 PM


You must be young by Daniela E Mon October 23, 2006 @ 12:31 AM

by fairywithfangs Posted Fri August 4, 2006 @ 9:06 PM

I will pay you all a dollar to make this letter go away now.

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AWAYYYYYYYY!! Please make it go away!! by rxgirl Sat August 5, 2006 @ 12:33 AM


I can make it go away by Anita_New_Name Sun August 6, 2006 @ 5:33 PM
by !#@**! #$*@?! Posted Fri August 4, 2006 @ 9:05 AM

You have every right to complain.

You were spoken to in a very unprofessional manner and you should go
back into the store with your receipt to get the security tag off and
ask to speak to the store manager. I would also ask for the name and
number of their area, or regional manager. I would find out the name
of the person who said that to you if you can, whether you out right
ask or just look around and ask her yourself, of course I would just
say she looked familiar, not tell her why you need it. I recommend
this approach because stores don't really want to help you complain
about them to their higher ups. And do this without the kids, I'm sure
she'd remember you with them. Anyway, if they refuse to give you that
info, which they are not supposed to do, go to the internet and see if
you can find it out or find another store in the area and ask them.

Call the manager and explain what happened in a very professional and
dignified manner. Do not get emotional because your complaint would
not be taken seriously. Explain how mortified you were to be spoken to
like that, threatened to have security called on you right off the bat
when let's face it....A mom and her two toddler's are not the biggest
security threat. It would maybe be a little more understanding if you
had been warned, but kept doing it anyway.

Explain that you are considering taking your business elsewhere and
that your friends, people you work with, pto and church group (those
that you shared what happened to you) are also considering doing the
same thing because if it could happen to you then it could happen to
them....

They really should apologize for the employee's behavior and perhaps
even give you a gift card. You were given poor customer service.
Without customers there would be no business. You at least deserved to
be treated with dignity while she was addressing you. I could see if
she had spoken to you several times and you kept singing louder and
louder that you may be need to be removed from the store, altho I
can't imagine security actually coming down to do that. Security deals
with fights, stealing and rude behavior...altho singing annoyingly
could be considered rude, I'm talking threatening behavior with
profanities. Security would not be very happy to waste their time on
something like that.

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by Liz W Posted Fri August 4, 2006 @ 3:47 AM

*bashes head on desk*

Why isn't this letter dead yet?!?!?!

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by monicak58 Posted Wed August 2, 2006 @ 10:53 AM

A store is not a playground. How annoying it would be to have to
listen to your silly songs while I shop.

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by Nichole Posted Tue August 1, 2006 @ 11:22 AM

The person in front of you in line that puts the whole store in their
cart and then at the register only buys the one little itty bitty
thing that is at the bottom of the cart. You know, the thing that
they can't find because it's covered by everything else.

People who reach their hands inches from your face to grab something
right in front of you instead of simply saying excuse me.

People who bump you with their carts. Or walk into you with their
bodies.

Inconsiderate people who hog the entire isle by having their cart the
long way in the short direction.

People who stand. Just stand. Not looking at anything. Just stand
in the way of everyone.

When the cashier doesn't know how to work the register even though
they have worked their for the past 3 years that I have been going to
that particular store.

Girls that dress like hookers.

Boys that dress like girls.

Parents who scream at their kids.

Managers who scream at their employees.

The list goes on but the thing that is the most annoys me while
shopping is HAVING TO TAKE MY CHILDREN BECAUSE I AM THEIR MOTHER AND
NEEDED TO GO SHOPPING.


BTW, to everyone who asked why I still bought the dress. I was out
that day looking a dress for a very special occasion. After searching
every dress store in my area I found the perfect one here. It was the
last dress that I tried on and it looked amazing on me. Plus it was
perfect for the look I was going for. Despite the bad experience of
shopping for the dress, I received compliments by everyone I spoke to
that evening. I'm glad that I still bought the dress. Though I do
reget that the first letter I ever wrote using this wonderful tool has
become such a topic of conversation and has escaladed to this
magnitude. For this reason I have been staying away from here.

Can we kill this bird now?

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Sorry for all the typos... was in a huge hurry! n/t by Nichole Tue August 1, 2006 @ 1:16 PM


I agree... by tater30 Tue August 1, 2006 @ 4:17 PM


nichole by Leanne L Tue August 1, 2006 @ 7:38 PM

Leanne by Nichole Tue August 1, 2006 @ 7:59 PM


Yes, I do understand! by Leanne L Tue August 1, 2006 @ 10:56 PM


Solution to the hand inches from the face by RebeccaBee Sat August 5, 2006 @ 4:26 AM

LOL I'll have to try that! n/t by Nichole Sat August 5, 2006 @ 3:40 PM

just sneeze! by Happy1974 Sun August 6, 2006 @ 12:27 PM

by ItsMeDeb Posted Sun July 30, 2006 @ 8:10 PM

not everyone enjoys shopping with Children. while you thought it may
have been fun, maybe others didnt.

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Not everyone... by Jeffrey Mon July 31, 2006 @ 1:18 PM


Agreed Jeffrey! by MA Loper Mon July 31, 2006 @ 2:19 PM


I agree (n/t) by Venice Mon July 31, 2006 @ 4:45 PM

by eydie Posted Fri July 21, 2006 @ 9:52 PM

I would have just poked my head in and said,"Geez, it must be fun to
have you for a mom. Unfortunately, i think some people around here
have no sense of humor, so do you guys think you could be just a
teense quieter? Sorry, i had to mention it, and ruin your fun. More
moms should be like you, having a good time with your kids instead of
yelling at them and being abusive."

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Actually, by Tina . Sat July 22, 2006 @ 12:40 PM


I just realized what my problem might be by Venice Sat July 22, 2006 @ 6:04 PM


So you mean to tell me... by Evil Erik Sun July 23, 2006 @ 8:10 PM


too funny! n/t by AmandaBanana Mon July 24, 2006 @ 12:26 PM


i'm a mom by eydie Mon July 24, 2006 @ 10:03 PM

Erik was joking, eydie by Janell Mon July 24, 2006 @ 11:24 PM


it's not funny by eydie Tue July 25, 2006 @ 11:56 AM


It was a joke... by Evil Erik Tue July 25, 2006 @ 1:20 PM


sorry eydie by AmandaBanana Tue July 25, 2006 @ 3:13 PM


i have a fantastic sense of humor by eydie Tue July 25, 2006 @ 11:40 PM


"i have a fantastic sense of humor" by vc Wed July 26, 2006 @ 3:06 AM


My sentiments exactly. (n/t) by Evil Erik Wed July 26, 2006 @ 12:08 PM


Methinks... by tickytack Tue July 25, 2006 @ 4:41 PM


i don't think he did it on purpose by eydie Tue July 25, 2006 @ 11:42 PM


I didn't do it on purpose. by Evil Erik Wed July 26, 2006 @ 12:15 PM


Again, methinks by tickytack Wed July 26, 2006 @ 1:23 PM


I'm a mom too by LadyMac Wed July 26, 2006 @ 1:36 PM


Wow, you just don't get it. by Evil Erik Wed July 26, 2006 @ 2:10 PM


I'm sorry by eydie Wed July 26, 2006 @ 10:32 PM


Apology accepted. by Evil Erik Fri July 28, 2006 @ 9:59 AM


you're awesome by eydie Fri July 28, 2006 @ 4:52 PM


Thank God... by Venice Sat July 29, 2006 @ 2:19 AM


I know that song! by LadyMac Thu August 3, 2006 @ 9:14 AM


there's a song? by eydie Thu August 3, 2006 @ 7:31 PM


um... by eydie Fri August 4, 2006 @ 12:18 AM


Happens all the time by LadyMac Fri August 4, 2006 @ 8:02 AM


well, i am from Kansas by eydie Fri August 4, 2006 @ 9:44 PM


Wicked by LadyMac Mon August 7, 2006 @ 7:52 AM
by JamesV Posted Fri July 21, 2006 @ 4:33 PM

Thank you for entertaining your children in a positive manner. I am
tired of going somewhere to hear screaming, whining kids.
I'd much rather hear children singing and laughing. So thank you. I
bet you put a smile on more than one persons face when they had the
pleasure to observe happy children singing and dancing. It would have
mede me smile.

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Children not welcome. by Amanda Rebelo Thu August 3, 2006 @ 12:24 AM

by BlueStars Posted Thu July 20, 2006 @ 10:44 AM

People need to learn how to control their children when they are out
in public. If that dress had a security tag on it, it must of been an
expensive dress. While you were selecting the one you wanted, were
you letting your children hide under the clothing racks? It really
upsets me when I see children acting like that in stores. There is a
time and place for everything and dancing and singing in a dressing
room of a clothing store is not right.

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? by JamesV Fri July 21, 2006 @ 4:35 PM


how by AmandaBanana Sat July 22, 2006 @ 9:43 AM
by nikihoy Posted Tue July 18, 2006 @ 3:26 PM

AWESOME! I will now shop their! Your kids do not belong in the mall.
they belong at the park. HIRE A BABYSITTER!!!!

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Babysitter? by Sarah McQueen Wed July 19, 2006 @ 3:32 PM


Careful... by Jeffrey Wed July 19, 2006 @ 4:18 PM

thanks by just me Thu July 20, 2006 @ 8:09 AM


"Your kids do not belong in the mall." by Jeffrey Wed July 19, 2006 @ 4:15 PM


Malls love parents by Leanne l Wed July 19, 2006 @ 10:23 PM

by Nicats Posted Tue July 18, 2006 @ 2:55 AM

HAHA I am in competition with this...LOL All I got to say is sing and
dance away. These people must not have kids and when I am in a store
and people don't like me telling me telling my kids no and it makes
them cry then they start sticking their nose in my bussiness...blah
blah blah...give the kid a candy bar so he shuts up. All I got to say
is if you dont like it leave or ignore it. Its pretty much a public
place and anything to keep the kids happy when you got shoppping to do
makes life a little bit easier...but you know if your going to be home
in a couple of hours I will just drop my 4 kids off and go do my
shopping while you the child complainer can babysit my kids. See ya
in a couple of hours. Toodles Poodles.

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nictas... by AmandaBanana Tue July 18, 2006 @ 10:18 AM


that made no sense to me either AmandaBanana ... by ILuvMyDobes Tue July 18, 2006 @ 12:30 PM


very nice... by AmandaBanana Tue July 18, 2006 @ 12:32 PM


It's not YOU who is the ... by ILuvMyDobes Tue July 18, 2006 @ 12:41 PM


are you looking at the correct response... by AmandaBanana Tue July 18, 2006 @ 12:49 PM


Nicats criticizing ....you AmandaBanana?? by ILuvMyDobes Tue July 18, 2006 @ 12:56 PM


nono no... by AmandaBanana Tue July 18, 2006 @ 1:00 PM


Ah...I see. by ILuvMyDobes Tue July 18, 2006 @ 1:13 PM

actually by Happy1974 Fri August 4, 2006 @ 11:18 PM


Huh?? by VidraysAvatar Tue July 18, 2006 @ 5:02 PM


by mbe1974 Posted Mon July 17, 2006 @ 12:09 PM

OK, let me start off by saying "HI! I'M BACK AGAIN!" ha ha. Yeah,
work has been running me into the ground, so I haven't had too much
time for PFB. Blah. Anyway... singing silly songs eh? My guess is
that they were Barney songs. I would've called security on my own
mother if she was singing Barney songs. Down with purple dinosaurs!!

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Welcome Back! n/t by Iconophiliac Mon July 17, 2006 @ 10:23 PM

by Liz W Posted Sun July 16, 2006 @ 1:20 AM

Just when we thought it was safe....

THIS CLIMBS BACK UP TO NUMBER ONE!!!!

ARGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHH~~~

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by Michelle Gann Posted Sat July 15, 2006 @ 10:45 PM

I think the situation probably went something like this: Associate:
"Ma'am, we've had some complaints, would you please keep it down"
Nichole: "This is a store, and I'll do whatever I want. My darlings
have the right to do whatever they want too. Who do you think you
are?" Associate: "Ma'am, if you don't stop disrupting everyone else,
I'm going to have to call security."

For some reason people seem to equate rudeness with being told no, or
that they are in the wrong.

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No offense, but... by Venice Sun July 16, 2006 @ 2:25 AM


May I ask by Anita_New_Name Sun July 16, 2006 @ 5:41 AM


Sure you can ask by Michelle Gann Sun July 16, 2006 @ 10:29 PM


Exactly by Iconophiliac Sun July 23, 2006 @ 9:11 AM

by mysty147 Posted Sat July 15, 2006 @ 10:19 PM

I can understand your complaint and i do agree that "calling security"
is/was a bit severe, BUT....one of my pet peeves is mother's/father's
bringing their kids into a public place, especially department stores
and grocery stores and restaurnats and think that its okay to act like
you would at home. Or better yet, let their kids run around
unsupervised, out of control with no manners or respect for adults.
That tells me that Mom/Dad hasn't a grip on her children or themselves
and its RUDE. I don't have anything against kids, they are products
of their environments. Its the adults that need a course in social
curtousy. Smarten up girls!!!!!

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Smarten up girls!!!!!... by Venice Sun July 16, 2006 @ 2:20 AM


Why do you direct your comment only to "girls"? by LadyMac Mon July 17, 2006 @ 11:52 AM
by Mr. Mafia Posted Fri July 14, 2006 @ 2:16 PM

How did this post get to number one again?

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thats what I was wondering by Leanne l Fri July 14, 2006 @ 2:58 PM


because... by AmandaBanana Fri July 14, 2006 @ 3:58 PM

On the upside... by Banrion Fri July 14, 2006 @ 8:25 PM


Amen!! by AmandaBanana Sat July 15, 2006 @ 9:32 AM
by maryann caputo Posted Fri July 14, 2006 @ 1:44 PM

I don't know about calling security, that is going a bit too far. If
you want to sing with your kids, don't do it in a store! It is
annoying to the other shoppers who are trying to concentrate and, I
for one, have a hard enough time concentrating in stores where there
are constant announcements being made and loud music blaring!

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then shop online by Carolyn Miller Sun July 16, 2006 @ 3:32 PM

by dakota1235 Posted Thu July 13, 2006 @ 12:11 PM

Ugh not everyone likes kids. Not everyone wants to hear your kids. One
of the most annoying sounds on Earth is a small child squealing and
yelling (read singing because that's what it sounds like). Teach your
children how to behave in public and learn to respect others. Would
you enjoy it if my dog was barking up a storm next to you? I might
find it "cute" but I am polite enough to tell him to knock it off
because I know others might not like it. If I can take the time to
train my dog to be polite then you should take the time to train your
children to be polite!


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you should be glad your mom liked kids by eydie Thu July 27, 2006 @ 8:48 PM

I disagree by Rand Sat July 29, 2006 @ 3:46 PM
by mjmjenny Posted Thu July 13, 2006 @ 1:17 AM

well........ your alot calmer then I would have been, I would have
just floored the *$*#. and then accused her of hitting me first.
OK...........not, but thats the reaction I got after reading your
letter! You should have taken this all the way up the corporate ladder

Reply

Children not wanted by C A Thu July 13, 2006 @ 12:35 PM
by Cece Posted Tue July 11, 2006 @ 8:06 AM

If you want to sing with your kids, go to the park, not a store. I
don't find your kids cute. I don't find you cute. Shopping is a bad
experience for me anyway and loud brats and mothers who don't teach
their children manners are one of the reasons I hate shopping. Sure,
the saleslady could have been a bit nicer. I'll give you that. I
seriously doubt that they purposely left your security tag on to
spite you. When the alarm went off, why did you keep on walking? You
should have gone back to the sales register then to get it removed.
Maybe your kids were singing too loud and you didn't hear the loud
alarm?

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That says it all! by ILuvMyDobes Tue July 11, 2006 @ 9:33 AM

The alarm might not have gone off. by Lisa Smith Fri July 14, 2006 @ 4:38 PM

The alarm didnt go off coz' by Pavan Uppu Mon July 17, 2006 @ 6:51 PM

Okay, by Lisa Smith Sun July 23, 2006 @ 2:48 PM


the kids by Leanne l Sun July 23, 2006 @ 3:46 PM

no... by Lenneth Ducha Wed July 26, 2006 @ 10:36 PM

by jodi alcala Posted Tue July 11, 2006 @ 2:50 AM

Why was it or is it a big deal if a mother is laughing and singing
with her children in a store? Do you really need peace and quiet to
shop? Why would anybody complain about loud kids in a store? I could
understand the library but for goodness sakes it doesn't take much
thought to shop--does it?

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"Why would anyone complain about loud kids in a store?" by Tina . Tue July 11, 2006 @ 12:31 PM

not being destructive- by Carolyn Miller Sun July 16, 2006 @ 3:35 PM

How about the OTHER people trying on clothes? by Rand Sat July 29, 2006 @ 4:01 PM


Early on in this thread... by VidraysAvatar Mon July 17, 2006 @ 6:46 PM

by lisa patton Posted Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:57 PM

I was asked to leave as dressing room once because I went there to
privately nurse my newborn. I was told to go to the public bathroom! I
should have told her to kiss a private place and stayed put hoping
they would force me out so that I could then go hire an attorney. Oh
well, stupidly I left and stupidly you bought a dress.

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Aren't dressing rooms public too? by Tina . Tue July 11, 2006 @ 12:02 AM


Don't get me started. by Liz W Tue July 11, 2006 @ 3:10 AM


oh yeah by Leanne l Tue July 11, 2006 @ 1:58 PM


Bothered by breastfeeding??? by lisa p Tue July 11, 2006 @ 4:49 PM

Was that in response to me? by Tina . Tue July 11, 2006 @ 9:53 PM


Hold up, I'm PRO breast-feeding. by Liz W Wed July 12, 2006 @ 5:56 AM


I remember by Leanne l Wed July 12, 2006 @ 9:04 AM

breast feeding in a dressing room? by ItsMeDeb Sun July 30, 2006 @ 8:15 PM


You want them breast feeding where, exactly? by JenMo Mon July 31, 2006 @ 8:02 AM


....focus... by lisa p Thu July 13, 2006 @ 3:08 PM


thats ok by Leanne l Thu July 13, 2006 @ 7:19 PM


Breastfeeding in Public by Mike R. Sun July 30, 2006 @ 4:53 PM

by Venice Posted Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:26 PM

This letter is going to live forever. Could someone please wish it to
the cornnfields, or maybe the Poptart Hall of Fame?

Please.

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I say by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:50 PM


Shenanigans by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:18 PM


I concur! by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:33 PM


Go GET an Irish coffee??? by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 7:07 PM


lmfao. by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 7:15 PM

by Nona Yourbiz Posted Sun July 9, 2006 @ 11:17 PM

I remember being told to leave a dressing room once when I was newly
married and enjoying shopping for clothes for the first time with my
new husband. We were happily talking in the large dressing room and
laughed some. That was all it took to get rudely thrown out.

I am a very conservative and meek woman (with a very well behaved
child by the way) and was insulted by the rude accusation that we were
doing anything wrong, which would never have crossed my mind.

I also grew up working in my family's store and always treated the
customers with great respect, even when they were stealing right in
front of my face. What ever happened to respect and human dignity?
Now everyone seems to expect to be herded like cattle in a Walmart or
Sam's Club. If you don't rush to put your debit card and pen away
fast enough to get out of the line after paying, then you are shoved
out of the way by the cashier and cart behind you.

Children and married people are people too! Another incident of
injustice is when I was driven from my brand new home in a brand new
neighborhood in Indianapolis, Indiana by my middle class wanna be DINK
neighbors. DINK = DOUBLE INCOME NO KIDS. In today's disposable
consumer driven society the traditional values of marriage and
children are seen as the enemy. Let's not forget Christianity, that
is also first on the hit list for new age hate mongers.

If you people don't stop believing the vain ideologies that the media
preaches, then you are all going to end up aborting your babies
because you are afraid of what the neighbors will think. Of course
children should be taught to behave respectfully, but laughing or
singing because one is glad to be alive is a lot better than you
idiots that are more satisfied with a culture of death. Yes, YOU
moron!

I had to move out of my new house because a few of the new homes were
occupied by new couples without kids, that had an agenda to get rid of
all of the kids and sincere Christians and fatties. Well, we were on
that list and got vandalized by this college educated group of thugs
that daily vandalized and attacked us, including my then 18 month old
son who was temporarily blinded by one of the dog attacks. They
didn't think they were doing anything wrong and reassured each other
of that lie.

After I tole the President of the Home Owner's Association, he of
course didn't believe me because it sounds ridiculous. To prove me
wrong he casually rode his bike down my street and was attacked by the
bully's dog and the bully. The bully said he would have gone for
blood if some of the neighbors hadn't physically held him back. The
only thing the HOA president did to incite this was to put his hand
out to defend himself against the dog attack.

The war we are fighting is life versus death. Choose life or earn
eternal death.

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Wow. I think I by RedheadWGlasses Sun July 9, 2006 @ 11:25 PM


Wow. I think I'll pop some popcorn and sit back and watch the show. n/t by RedheadWGlasses Sun July 9, 2006 @ 11:26 PM

Why I am no longer a Christian... by niNJA Mon July 10, 2006 @ 8:33 AM


Margaret? by LadyMac Mon July 10, 2006 @ 8:40 AM


Amazing. by Evil Erik Mon July 10, 2006 @ 10:13 AM

I'm jumping on the bandwagon by Manda R Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:55 PM


There's a bandwagon? by Evil Erik Mon July 10, 2006 @ 11:34 PM

It's the Erik is funny bandwagon! by Manda R Tue July 11, 2006 @ 9:45 AM


Oh your God by vc Mon July 10, 2006 @ 2:25 PM


L.M.A.O.!! by Gdess74 Mon July 10, 2006 @ 2:35 PM


HUH? hahahahahaha by ILuvMyDobes Mon July 10, 2006 @ 2:40 PM


This is what the full moon is doing to people by GuestsSuck! Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:04 PM


The jig is up! by VidraysAvatar Mon July 10, 2006 @ 4:18 PM


Oh by Leanne l Mon July 10, 2006 @ 4:26 PM


Um. OK. *backs slowly away* by dragonflygrrl Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:02 PM


why do I suddenly feel by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:47 PM


I dunno by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:21 PM


LOL by Leanne l Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:33 PM


I have some wetnaps, for those who can't take a shower right now by RedheadWGlasses Mon July 10, 2006 @ 7:44 PM


All things considered by snurli Tue July 11, 2006 @ 5:06 PM


And what is by GuestsSuck! Tue July 11, 2006 @ 8:00 PM


No doubt! I want to invest... by VidraysAvatar Wed July 12, 2006 @ 11:35 AM
by Jennifer Cline Posted Sun July 9, 2006 @ 8:07 PM

I think the sales associate was down right rude for treating you and
the kids the way she did. I would have reported her for her rudeness.
How would she like it that she got up and fired for that. She would
deserve after all. My advice would not to shop there. How would like
it if they lost revenue just for that rude employee they have in that
store.

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by Myra Breckinridge Posted Sun July 9, 2006 @ 8:46 AM

I suspect there's a lot we're not hearing here. You sing and dance
with your children in a dressing room and the salesperson's first
response is to threaten to call security?

I think there's a lot more to this story than this person is letting
on.

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A-Men by ILuvMyDobes Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:49 PM


by candychicken Posted Sat July 8, 2006 @ 11:58 PM

the associate shouldnt have been such an ass, but children really
shouldnt be allowed to be noisy in public. the old "seen and not
heard" thing applies well to young ones.

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by Liz W Posted Sat July 8, 2006 @ 4:27 AM

Oh my god.

I have worked in the retail, hospitality and cleaning areas of pretty
much everywhere, and I can tell you that little kids make EVERYONE'S
jobs harder.

YOU may think your children are cute, but do you know how annoying it
is when Children make loud noises, are rude, messy and boustrous?
'Cute' is when children giggle, wear adorible outfits and have sweet
haircuts. NOT when they are loud and disruptive, messy, and damage
merchandise.

I am currently residing in Tokyo, and the children here are so much
quieter than in the western world. they are polite, not fussy and
quite often quiet. Working here has become so much more easier, and
the parents KNOW how to take care of their children, and not let them
run around and mess up stores. I work in a very expensive store in the
Harajuku area, and the teenage girls who shop here sometimes bring
their younger siblings. Even THEY know how to look after and take
controll of young children, and they themselfs can be quite loud and
bubbly.

Perhaps we should all take some example from the Japanese and learn to
controll our children? I am sick and tired of having to clean up after
small children who's parents are too abnoxious and snooty to care
about others.

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I agree n/t by Iconophiliac Sat July 15, 2006 @ 5:20 PM

by Iconophiliac Posted Sat July 8, 2006 @ 12:00 AM

I can't believe I've been offline for almost a week and this letter is
still number 1!

...stupid Sympatico...

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by GryphonsKeeper Posted Thu July 6, 2006 @ 7:29 PM

Have you ever considered the fact YOU were being incredibly rude
singing and dancing in a retail store? Or are you one of those parents
who force everyone around you to put up with the whims of your
children because you think its cute and wonderful?

Was this Chuck E cheese? Was this Kids R Us? That is the problem with
most parents today... it is far easier to just entertain the kids,
than it is to parent them.
I do not go clothes shopping and expect to hear Barney's theme song
sang off key and in stereo, perhaps you should hire a sitter if you
need to do shopping, or have the respect for others to actually parent
your children and have them act with a hint of restraint in public. If
I can do it with 3 kids (one of them autistic) you can also.

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YAY! by Bub Fri July 7, 2006 @ 4:11 PM


anytime. by GryphonsKeeper Fri July 7, 2006 @ 9:21 PM

To GryphonsKeeper by momof5girls Fri July 7, 2006 @ 10:29 PM


Nothing is wrong with playing with your kids by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 2:17 PM


But of course by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:17 PM


Touche! by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:36 PM


How? by Anita_New_Name Sat July 8, 2006 @ 6:31 AM


Oops by Anita_New_Name Sat July 8, 2006 @ 6:32 AM


Perfect by Venice Sun July 9, 2006 @ 3:43 PM


you asked by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 2:56 PM


Unless your children are still babies.... by Venice Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:39 PM


Thank you! by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 4:10 PM


I have never said they "never" did by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:26 PM


Exactly my point. by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:03 PM


I see your point as well. by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:18 PM


Flowers in the Attic by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 6:20 PM


Ooooo by Iconophiliac Mon July 10, 2006 @ 10:46 PM


I know my mom by Iconophiliac Sun July 9, 2006 @ 7:54 AM

Good for you! by austinmommy Mon July 10, 2006 @ 10:59 AM


Do whaaaaaat????? by Anita_New_Name Mon July 10, 2006 @ 11:20 AM


Hahaha...Thanks for beating me to it! (n/t) by Venice Mon July 10, 2006 @ 3:33 PM


GryphonsKeeper... by Venice Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:32 PM


Woah... by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 5:39 PM


Several of us by Leanne l Mon July 10, 2006 @ 8:53 PM


have you tried... by GryphonsKeeper Mon July 10, 2006 @ 10:35 PM


Tangible by Leanne l Tue July 11, 2006 @ 9:49 AM


Asperger' by LadyMac Tue July 11, 2006 @ 1:19 PM


Asperger's by LadyMac Tue July 11, 2006 @ 1:22 PM
by Glowinthedarkseamonkey Posted Thu July 6, 2006 @ 6:50 PM

Seriously, the salesperson definitely put the ass in
associate. I work in a retail clothing store, and
we would never deride or threaten our customers like
that. Sometimes people can be real tools. As a father, I've been
there. Kids are kids. If that
store can't handle the noise, don't spend another
dime of your money there. Vote with your feet.

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Are you serious? by itsme Sun July 9, 2006 @ 9:50 PM

by ILuvMyDobes Posted Wed July 5, 2006 @ 6:24 PM

My parents would never have allowed that.

I'll bet the store received complaints.

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by Nay Posted Wed July 5, 2006 @ 10:43 AM

I think she was threatening "call security" on you.

But anyways, why do customers have this image of employees always
being nice? Employees are human...


Still, she shouldn't have approached you in the manner ... if that is
what happened.

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by AmandaBanana Posted Wed July 5, 2006 @ 10:26 AM

I wasn't sure how this was still number one, since I have been
avoiding it, but I was shocked to see what it escalated(Sp?) to. This
is absurd and needs to end

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I agree. by Lisa Smith Wed July 5, 2006 @ 4:24 PM
by Leah Tague Posted Tue July 4, 2006 @ 9:20 PM

ok everybody. i think this whole thing has gone far enough. i really
do. i think that people are being insulted, and this is not the place
for that. you want to insult people(and im not accusing any one
person. there is a lot of stuff going back and forth), exchange
emails, and debate this there. planet feedback is a place to go to
make complaints against horrible treatment, or serivce.

we should not be arguing. it is pointless. who here feels better
about having argued about this? anybody? nobody? ok.

every person on this board has their own opinion about what happened
here, and who is at fault. and everybody here is entitled to that, but
that does not mean we should argue over it. i think we need to accept
that there is not going to be one big agreement, and just let this
drop. it is pointless, and i think people are wasting alot of good
time on this.

its the Fourth of July, im out to go see fireworks, i hope you are
too, and have a nice night.

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ok by Waitress4916 Wed July 5, 2006 @ 3:43 AM


sorry by Waitress4916 Wed July 5, 2006 @ 3:47 AM


What on earth by tickytack Wed July 5, 2006 @ 8:40 AM


I think by JenMo Wed July 5, 2006 @ 7:47 PM

by Cubjunkie Posted Sun July 2, 2006 @ 12:39 PM

I bet you all 100 bucks the OP takes her kids to movies and let's them
talk and sing and dance and not movies for kids.

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by Cubjunkie Posted Sun July 2, 2006 @ 12:13 PM

First am I the only one who teaches my children to behave in public?

My older 2 children sing with a children's choir. They have beautiful
voices. But I know the public does not want to hear them singing and
dancing when we're out shopping.

She told you while you were disturbing and annoying other customers
that if you didn't stop disturbing other customers and taking much
more time than a normal dress try on would in the dressing room
because you were singing and dancing that if you didn't stop she'd
call security.

I realize you think you and your children are the center of the
universe.

Of course someone who doesn't teach their children to behave in public
probably is lying about the way the store employee handled it.

As far as the worthless garbage who have never worked a day in their
lives who have suggested leaving the clothes on the floor of the
dressing room I've had to clean up after you worthless garbage who
have no common decency. Only a complete and total piece of crap would
ever leave clothes on the dressing room floor.

Probably of course after being a total complete worthless piece of
crap they didn't put things back after they went through them.

Being raised right unlike you I do not leave messes behind me in
stores. And I raise my children to behave.

If I want to hear stupid mindless singing and see stupid dancing I'd
watch Barney.

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*sigh* by Tina . Sun July 2, 2006 @ 9:37 PM


I... I... by Courtdog Sun July 2, 2006 @ 10:37 PM

my goodness by itshotinjt Tue July 4, 2006 @ 3:08 PM


i also by AmandaBanana Wed July 5, 2006 @ 9:54 AM


L...O....L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by mary jo Tue July 4, 2006 @ 6:12 PM

by Andrew Lenahan Posted Sun July 2, 2006 @ 10:54 AM

I could argue this same case two ways:

Point one: Three people singing and dancing in a store's dressing
room?! It might have seemed like a cute idea at the time, but life
isn't a Raffi video. A store is ultimately a place of business. If
your shenanigans get to the point where they irritate or distract
other shoppers, the employees have not only a right but a
responsibility to put a stop to it.

Point two: On the other hand, initial rudeness is never okay (though I
understand why the employee was annoyed) and threatening to call
security should be a last resort rather than the first.

So, do I think the employee acted wrongly? Yes, I do. But they were
definitely provoked. There's no way of knowing how upset the other
customers were when they told the employee to tell you to knock it
off, and that may be the key to explaining the employee's rudeness.
So, shame on them, but shame on you as well.

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by TMoney79 Posted Sun July 2, 2006 @ 12:49 AM

"go ahead and call security". had they touched you, you could have
began retirement this week.

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not true by Big Tom Tue July 11, 2006 @ 10:02 PM
by Roger-D Posted Fri June 30, 2006 @ 10:43 PM

My only question is why did you go ahead and buy the dress there?

Reply

by Leanne L Posted Fri June 30, 2006 @ 4:14 PM

I'm coming in late on this one and only got to skim over a few replies
as I was in Disney this week and have to play catch up. I think the
employee may have done this to show the other complaining customers
that she was taking care of the situation, however it was quite a
threatening approach, making you feel like a criminal I'm sure. And
yep I agree with whoever it was that said they would leave their items
in the dressing room and just take off. It would make them happy and
given you a little satisfaction too.

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by Tina . Posted Fri June 30, 2006 @ 12:40 PM

Can I just say that I work in retail and my number one pet peeve is
loud children?

It amazes me how parents totally ignore how loud and destructive their
children can be. I'm not saying all parents are this way. There are
quite a few who put their children in the cart (where they should be
if they're small enough instead of running around the store) and tell
their children to behave. Like yesterday, I was working in the
electronics and toy department and I was helping a man and a woman
with calculators in the electronics department while their children
were in the toy department being loud and completely destroying every
aisle in the toy department. The parents either didn't notice it or
most likely they don't know proper shopping etiquette. Most customers
feel that because they have money to spend, the employees and other
customers should have to deal with their annoying children.

And it's not just little children. I've had to talk to loud, singing
teens as well as adults. At the store I work at, we usually give them
a warning and if they don't stop, we call security. And if the person
was being really destructive or loud, it's not unusual for an employee
to yell at the customer and kick them out right away.

Although I think the sales associate in this case may have just been
angry because she had probably worked for 7-8 hours and had to deal
with annoying children all day and was questioning WHY ON EARTH PEOPLE
DECIDE TO SHOP 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE STORE CLOSES because she just
wants to get things done and go home, it's entirely possible that the
mother in this situation was in fact, being REALLY loud. Sure, the SA
could have handled it in a nicer way, but think about how many
customers annoyed her and yelled at her that day. I know it's hard to
believe but SA's are people too. If we get yelled at multiple times a
day by customers who feel as though the world revolves around them, it
makes sense that sometimes, some of us snap. We're actually not paid
to be nice to people. We're paid to help customers. But if someone is
rude, loud, or destructive, we have the right to kick you out of the
store. I don't do it often but my managers encourage it if it's
extremely bad. Some people just need to learn how to behave in public
(especially in stores). Work in retail for a day or two and you'll
come to understand what he have to deal with daily.

So in this case, I feel as though both the customer and SA were wrong.

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Your comment about by Iconophiliac Sat July 1, 2006 @ 9:51 AM

You're so right by Katy M Fri July 7, 2006 @ 12:14 AM

Hey.... by Lisa Smith Fri July 7, 2006 @ 9:51 PM


Uh-huh by Iconophiliac Sun July 9, 2006 @ 3:07 AM

Not in school right now by Lisa Smith Sun July 9, 2006 @ 6:59 PM


Totally. by Liz W Sat July 8, 2006 @ 4:31 AM
by Lisa Smith Posted Thu June 29, 2006 @ 11:03 PM

I have not read all of the replies here but I have read some. I just
have to say I expect the respect I give. I don't take kids with me and
let them be overly loud and crazy in the dressing room so I expect
others not to. I don't talk on my cellphone so loudly that anyone
within 20 miles can hear it so I expect others not to. I know how hard
it can be to go shopping with a 2 year old when they get bored and you
aren't done. If you and your children were being resonably quiet then
I think it's crazy that anyone complained. However, I wasn't there so
I don't know just exactly how quiet yall were being. I also don't know
if the associate was actually as rude as you say or not, but if she
was she was out of line. I also find it VERY annoying when a store
forgets to remove a security tag. All in all I'd say you have a good
letter and I have no idea why you have gotten some of the responses
that you have.

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It took 382 replies... by Venice Fri June 30, 2006 @ 12:53 AM

You are welcome. by Lisa Smith Fri June 30, 2006 @ 6:13 PM


You've said by Iconophiliac Fri June 30, 2006 @ 9:18 AM

I'm sorry by Lisa Smith Fri June 30, 2006 @ 6:15 PM
by david smith Posted Thu June 29, 2006 @ 8:08 PM

maybe as a parnet you should keep your kids quite in a place like
kaufmans not all people wanna hear you and your kids singing.

Reply


What's a parnet? by Evil Erik Thu June 29, 2006 @ 11:59 PM


A parnet by Anita_New_Name Fri June 30, 2006 @ 3:55 AM


It does. by Evil Erik Fri June 30, 2006 @ 9:58 AM


They'll turn their backs to you and pee on you by RedheadWGlasses Fri June 30, 2006 @ 3:26 PM


Let me explain by RedheadWGlasses Fri June 30, 2006 @ 5:45 PM


Hey by vc Fri June 30, 2006 @ 10:03 PM

by david smith Posted Thu June 29, 2006 @ 8:07 PM


Reply

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Wed June 28, 2006 @ 1:19 PM

Everybody here has stated whether they side with the OP or against
her. Some have restated their positions ad nauseum.

I would just suggest that everybody stop talking about it (since
nothing new is being added to the conversation/debate) and let this OP
rest in peace, or until a newbie comes along and feels like responding
with their THEIR opinion. Because really, just because you tell
someone they are WRONG in this matter, doesn't make it so. This is a
matter of opinions.

And please don't respond to this post by saying how wrong I am or how
right you were or how wrong someone else is, blah blah blah.

I'd just love to see this move from the #1 spot.

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Hocus Pocus by mamaw Wed June 28, 2006 @ 2:05 PM


"Just say no" to Dr. Phil! by RedheadWGlasses Wed June 28, 2006 @ 2:21 PM


Not there yet by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 2:22 PM


Thank you by snurli Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:55 PM

35 vs. 53 by mamaw Wed June 28, 2006 @ 5:03 PM


I don't see the big deal by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:12 PM


HELP MEEE!!!! by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:19 PM


Woo HOOO by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:32 PM


I'm proud of you! by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:32 PM


LOL by Anita_New_Name Thu June 29, 2006 @ 3:32 AM


Oh, Anita... by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 2:56 AM


No worries by Anita_New_Name Thu June 29, 2006 @ 3:33 AM
by C A Posted Wed June 28, 2006 @ 12:55 PM

I don't believe the employee handled the situation well, however we
have a rash of parents who don't teach their kids manners, so people
have a very low "kid" tolerence these days. I'm not sure that this
instance qualifies, but people do need to teach their kids "indoor
voices". Come to think of it, many adults could use that lesson as
well.

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I'd be happy if by RebeccaBee Wed June 28, 2006 @ 5:50 PM


by Iconophiliac Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:28 PM

Look, both sides have both stated that if this situation went down the
way that was stated in the letter, then the employee was out of line.
If this was the main purpose behind the complaint - what's the
problem?

Oh...wait... it's people like Lady Mac stating that if someone get
annoyed by children they must need therapy. Think about that
statement, it screams ignorance and intolerance.

No one is critisizing anyone for liking children, why am I getting
flak for not liking children?

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Yup! by Courtdog Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:51 PM


Hypocrisy at its finest by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:25 PM


I respectfully by Anita_New_Name Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:36 PM


Respect - that's the key by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:14 AM


Icon, I'm going to lay it on the line.... by Anita_New_Name Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:24 PM


What does that have to do with the letter? by Courtdog Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:42 PM


Understood by Anita_New_Name Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:47 PM


Respect by Courtdog Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:53 PM


Yes, it is sad by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:45 AM


I really appreciate your post, Anita by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:07 PM


You are absolutely right by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:41 AM


If I may by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 10:36 PM


Sounds like by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 11:16 PM


Awake by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:01 AM


LadyMac was wrong by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:18 AM


Thank you, Venice by LadyMac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:39 AM


And mistakenly taking it personally n/t by Venice Wed June 28, 2006 @ 3:37 PM


Hey, Venice, by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 5:24 PM


Dave, it's not silly at all by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 3:04 AM


Cool, thanks! (n/t) by Dave R Thu June 29, 2006 @ 10:51 AM


Hyprocritical by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:06 PM


I don't think either of them was joking by Venice Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:03 PM


Wow by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 7:05 AM


Not so by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 1:15 PM


Here's how I see it: by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 6:49 PM


I'm sorry by LadyMac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:52 AM


I think by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:19 AM


As you will see by my previous post... by LadyMac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:37 AM


I didn't tell you off by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 10:00 AM


Respect? by LadyMac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:44 AM


Yeah, I regretted that post as soon as I made it by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:09 PM


I still believe by LadyMac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 8:41 AM


I'm not upset by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 6:46 PM


Some people see children as... by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:34 PM


Yeah by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:36 PM
by mamaw Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:23 PM

I am not familiar with the store name of Kaufmann. Which states are
they in so I can avoid such an uptight shopping experience like the
one you just had? And have you returned to get the tag off your dress
yet?

Reply


It's a nice store by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:20 AM


huh? by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:45 AM


In MY Opinion by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 11:25 AM


Oh by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 1:50 PM
by Cass Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:02 PM

"If you're going to get all worked up over toddlers singing, you
should probably seek some kind of therapy because your life is way too
stressful."

But... no one IS getting "all worked up" over toddlers singing. Most
people who disagreed with the OP merely stated that plenty of people
would find it annoying... not unlike cell phones ringing... and that
the employee was justified in putting a stop to it. Most of those same
people then agreed that the WAY the employee handled it was not
appropriate.

Honestly, the only people I see getting worked up here are the ones
that keep accusing those of us who don't find the actions of the OP
and her kids utterly adorable of being evil child hating monsters...


Reply


Children by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:15 PM


My point was by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:50 PM


In a perfect world by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 5:02 PM

No, I know you didn't accuse anyone of hating children, by Cass Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:25 PM


Exactly by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:21 PM


by LadyMac Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 1:11 PM

Really - are singing children any different or worse from ringing cell
phones?

That's my pet peeve, but I also realize that it's MY pet peeve. You
just grit your teeth and wait for the moment to pass. If you're going
to get all worked up over toddlers singing, you should probably seek
some kind of therapy because your life is way too stressful.

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I think that's a bit harsh by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:28 PM


LadyMac...I Love You!!! by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:25 PM


hmmm.. by AmandaBanana Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:31 PM


There you go! by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:19 PM


Ringtone by AmandaBanana Wed June 28, 2006 @ 10:53 AM


Hmmm, by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:19 PM

They're about equal to me by MaterialGirl850 Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:07 PM


I think where LadyMac was coming from... by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 5:45 PM

by *Brenda* Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:50 PM

Don't people get that the OP isn't complaining about being asked to be
quiet.

She is complaining about the WAY the associate approached her.

Obviously, this associate is not trained on how to handle customer
issues and said the wrong thing. The associate never should have
approached a customer about an issue like that, even if there had been
100 complaints. That should had been left to a MANAGER. That's what
they are there for and they ARE trained on handling customer issues.

I totally believe that the associate said she would call security. You
wouldn't believe the way some people speak to a customer. People just
starting their first job are the worst. It happens all the time at my
job. They just don't lnow how to deal with customers quite yet.

I guess I am missing the part where the OP is complaining about
everybody not loving her singing... maybe because it isn't there.
Also, I believe in a reply to a post further down she says that she
later spoke to a manager and the only complaint was from another
associate.

Does the OP being annoying mean that she gets bad customer service?
NO!! Like I said in a post further down, do you know how many
customers are rude as hell to me and yell? TONS. Do you know how many
I am rude too? None. I grit my teeth go through the day.

It's funny, when my fiance calls the store he laughs at me because I
am using my fake happy, friendly voice.

I would say I hate at least half of our customers but I don't show I
treat them all like I love them.

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See, it's NOT obvious by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:31 PM


So if... by *Brenda* Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:27 PM


Brenda, I love you, too! by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:00 PM


Applause by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:21 PM


Are you missing the fact, by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:21 PM


No, by *Brenda* Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:19 PM


Nobody said by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:03 AM

I Never Said... by MaterialGirl850 Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:35 PM


Knock off the "stressful life" garbage by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:26 AM


I am frequently bombarded by ADULTS acting like idiots... by Venice Wed June 28, 2006 @ 3:50 PM


Exactly by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:27 PM


Exactly by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:10 PM


Absolutely by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:18 PM


It's just logical by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:23 PM


Boy do we EVER!! by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:28 PM


Everybody has the right to complain. by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:40 PM


Of course not by Anita_New_Name Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:17 PM


It is obvious... by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 3:19 AM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Tue June 27, 2006 @ 10:53 AM

We'll round up all the kids and have 'em live underground in a cave!

Reply


There are children here somewhere. by Evil Erik Tue June 27, 2006 @ 11:10 AM


Don't you know? by snurli Tue June 27, 2006 @ 11:57 AM

Funny Story by Manda R Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:45 PM

cnw by renay wits Tue July 4, 2006 @ 1:30 PM

Are you talking to me? by Manda R Thu July 6, 2006 @ 4:47 PM


by Gino Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:44 PM

This might be a bit off topic here but if I were insulted that way,
the article of clothing would have stayed on the floor, I'd have
collected my kids, filed a complaint with the manager, make cole slaw
out of the store's credit card, collected my friends and took my
business elsewhere.
I'm a man who's not been blessed with the honor of having children. I
had a neighbor, single mom of one happy, well adjusted child. There
was always the joyous sound of laughter and chatter and splashing and
knocks on the door to ask if he could get his whiffle ball out of my
yard. Well, his mother got killed on her way to work by a drunk driver
at 7 A.M. The house sat empty and still and dark for what seemed an
eternity (eight months) The child went with an aunt and we felt this
horrible emptiness. We have no way of contacting him. There WERE
times, believe me, where some peace and quiet would have been a
relief, but all that suddenly didn't matter anymore.

The house sold and was rented out to a bunch of abusive slobs. They
foreclosed, the tenants got evicted and Now we have a young couple
fixing it up and making it a home again... with four young well
behaved, happy, healthy children. Once again there's joy and laughter
and a view of the world through children's eyes. It dosen't get much
better than this, considering the rest of the neighborhood is getting
up in years and leaving (willingly or otherwise) and more families
with children are moving in. The future looks brighter now.
So a few kids were being kids? A mother cared enough to keep them
within sight while trying on some clothes? In the grand scheme of
things, believe me, it's nothing and if it is, it's a minor
inconcenience for a short time and didn't deserve this level of high
alert.
I do think the salesperson was wrong on this one(threaten to call
security???? Give me a break!) and could have handled it in a more
civil way.

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Gotta say..... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:51 PM


If your story doesn't soften everyone up... by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

Nope, sorry.... by Peregrina Tue June 27, 2006 @ 1:26 AM


The Word Is by Gino Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:42 AM


Correction by Gino Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:54 AM


You dont need to apologize by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:36 AM


No, I'M sorry (for you) by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:47 AM

eyes of an adult by Peregrina Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:19 AM


The word had nothing to do with it by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:25 AM

Unfortunate.... by Peregrina Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:51 AM


With all due respect by Anita_New_Name Tue June 27, 2006 @ 5:37 AM


Anita, thank you... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:06 PM


Must be something wrong with me... by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:40 AM


Sorry, but by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:05 AM

***spewwwww**** by Cass Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:23 AM


I totally agree by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:35 AM


True... by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:50 AM


: ) by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:36 PM


Oops by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:43 PM

by Courtdog Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:21 PM

I find it hard to believe that an employee would threaten to call
security on you. I can totally see the associate asking you and your
children to stop singing like crazed lunatics, but I suspect something
else had to happen here because what you were doing is nothing that
security should be called about.

And I won't even get into how the sound of a loud child makes me feel.
*shudder*

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EXACTLY! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:55 PM


Crazed Lunatics??? by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:53 PM


Ok fine by Courtdog Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:59 PM


Yeah, I agree by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:27 AM


Venice by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:02 AM


I am at the front of the line... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:38 AM

You are so right. by mamaw Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:54 AM


I love your screen name by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:07 AM

mamaw ( husband is papaw) by mamaw Tue June 27, 2006 @ 10:20 AM


Mamaw by snurli Tue June 27, 2006 @ 11:56 AM

Kids and Puppies by mamaw Wed June 28, 2006 @ 12:23 AM


What you're missing is by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:02 AM


They cant seem to understand that by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:12 AM


She said... by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:05 AM

by JenJen Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 8:46 PM

Darn, your letter was not what I thought it was going to be...I was
going to tell you I'd buy them since I can't have any of my own. ;-)
Haha, just kidding.

I'm sure someone has already said it but since I don't have the time
to read 183 other comments (just taking a quick break from homework!)
I personally would not have purchased anything from that store after
being treated so rudely.

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yes it has been pointed out....BUT... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:59 PM


That is why by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:07 AM


Yup! by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:17 AM


I would not have done that by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:51 PM


Oh GAWD! by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:32 AM


It was suggested that... by Venice Wed June 28, 2006 @ 3:59 PM


Nobody said that by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 7:08 AM


In my book, this is called blame by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 12:55 PM


Literal Meaning by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 6:47 PM


ROFL!!! by mary jo Fri June 30, 2006 @ 10:20 AM


You must be by Iconophiliac Sat July 1, 2006 @ 10:20 AM


Hey, many people would by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:25 PM


Her children wouldn't even have known by Iconophiliac Thu June 29, 2006 @ 7:09 AM


by Venice Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:42 PM

Do the following remarks describe a public disturbance, acting out,
being disrespectful, inappropriate behavior, being loud and obnoxious,
belting out songs, screaming a song, bursting out into loud song?

"Actually my children were not screaming songs in loud voices. My
children do not do what they want to do. I did not instigate anytihng.
As I stated in another one of my posts... I don't particularly like
other people's little children and I an VERY careful to keep my
children in check when we are in public together. They are far from
loud mouthed brats. I would NEVER allow them to act that way in
public. They are 2 and 3. They were using their 'little voices" to sng
their ABC's, Some Chicken Little song... I certainly was not singing
like I was trying to win some blue ribbon."

Honestly, I don't think I have even seen anything get so blown out of
proportion. It's like everyone is taking this opportunity to rant
about every child who has ever annoyed them in their life.

If I couldn't have a little tolerance for a situation like this one, I
can't imagine ever being able to go out in a public place where
children were present. That would be a very sad day in my life.


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Did you ever possibly consider by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:48 PM

I agree by MaterialGirl850 Mon June 26, 2006 @ 8:51 PM


There is nothing worse than a parent in denial by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:23 PM

In Response to Your Questions... by MaterialGirl850 Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:10 AM


AH HA! by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:16 AM


We know what she wrote. by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:13 AM


She did not... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:55 AM


Why would she... by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:30 AM


That's why I believe her... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:43 PM


No offence Venice by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:26 AM


Icon... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:15 PM


The problem is.... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:03 PM

by Anita_New_Name Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:33 PM

This, actually, is a very touchy subject (as one can see by the
multitudes of responses below). While I would absolutely beam at
hearing the voices of mom and children singing songs, others would
find it difficult to listen to. Let's face it, not all of us are cut
out to be or even wish to be parents. There are countless people in
this world who dislike children and everything they do.

Sure, you could have chosen a more quiet activity for your children
while you were trying on your clothes, but you didn't have to, there
are no rules about this particular issue.

If you were to say that you were upset because the children were
scolded for running around like banchees, then perhaps I'd have a
different response. But to be scolded for singing, I can't say I get
it. I understand it was disruptive to other shoppers but if they
dismissed everyone who was the least bit disruptive (including talking
loudly, pushing you out of the way to get to a particular product, or
just flat out being rude) they'd have a pretty empty store, I'd say.

I suppose the best thing is to not go back to that particular store.
Depending on their targeted customer base, I'm thinking this store has
more customers who have children than those who don't. If they keep
chasing away their customers with children I'm thinking they won't
have that much business in the future because mom is going to tell
now-grown-child not to ever shop there. That is where the cycle will
begin. 10 years from now when their expected target customer base are
the very children they turned away, I'm thinking they may eventually
regret their position on this whole thing.

(insert disclaimer) This is all said going under the assumption that
they treat all customers/children this way and no where has it been
said that this is the case. (end disclaimer)

I think you should find another place to shop, quite honestly.

Reply


Dear Anita by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:38 PM


If I can catch it.... by RebeccaBee Mon June 26, 2006 @ 9:41 PM


Quite honestly by Anita_New_Name Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:34 AM


Anita by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:47 AM


I think by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:38 PM


Are you actually saying... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:47 PM


Perfect by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:49 PM

While we're on the subject of tolerance... by MaterialGirl850 Wed June 28, 2006 @ 2:38 PM


I don't think you understand the complaint by Venice Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:14 PM

No, I Understood It. by MaterialGirl850 Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:11 PM


There is no such thing as shopping in peace... by Venice Thu June 29, 2006 @ 3:39 AM


Nope by tickytack Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:37 AM


Here, here! by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:29 PM


Assumptions Assumptions by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:41 PM


If I.. by Alley Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:08 PM


"little voices" by AmandaBanana Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:29 PM


Fact is... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:10 PM

by LB06 Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:00 PM

I understand that you have children, but maybe you shouldn't have been
singing and dancing while you were trying on clothes. That's not what
the dressing room is there for. When I was younger, I sat quietly
until my mom was done trying on clothes.

Reply


And there you have it... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:13 PM


by Julie2071 Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:27 PM

I cannot say how I much I hate it when people sing really stupid
songs. Maybe I'm a party pooper, but I really just dislike it. I know
the lady seemed a bit harsh, but maybe you and your kids were really
getting on her nerves. Sometimes when people are frustrated, they are
also rude.

Reply


Are you talking about Kanye West or Garth Brooks? by Dave R Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:35 PM


LOL!!! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:51 PM


=) by Nay Wed July 5, 2006 @ 10:38 AM
by mamaw Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:05 PM

I guess I can't really see the big deal with having the kids sing and
dance. It could have been alot worse. Example: Although it was a
public restroom and not a dressing room, where some woman allowed her
2 small kids to crawl and climb from stall to stall!!!!!!!! It was
gross. I was standing at the sink and watched as these little kids
crawled around on the floors in just about every stall and played with
the toilet paper and whatever. The mother just called to them to come
back to her in her stall. It was pathetic to watch. I wanted to grab
those kids and scrub them all clean,but that would have taken a bath
tub to do the job well enough. This happened about a week ago and it
still freaks me out. I would gladly have had the experience of hearing
them sing and watch them dance in a cleaner place like a dressing
room. Some parents just don't pay enough attention to the kids in
public and you can only imagine what goes at home. crazy

Reply

by Iconophiliac Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:48 PM

I have a question - what were you singing?

I'm going to try this with a few friends and see what happens.

Reply

by mamaw Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:31 PM

I give you credit for shopping with two small children in the first
place. Did you say something to the person who rang up your purchases
about how you were treated? When you go back to get the tag removed
ask for both management and someone from security. Management to get
your valid concerns made to the proper person and Security to ask Why
the tag was left on your dress and how they would feel about tossing
out toddlers who sing and dance!!!!!!!!!

Reply


Why should she get credit... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:06 PM

Credit by mamaw Tue June 27, 2006 @ 12:48 AM


And has anyone even considered... by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 1:22 AM


Wrong. by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:38 AM


Because I don't think she did anything wrong by Venice Tue June 27, 2006 @ 5:00 PM


So you think... by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:32 AM

" Cup if tea" by mamaw Tue June 27, 2006 @ 10:35 AM


I didnt... by mary jo Fri June 30, 2006 @ 10:07 AM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:11 PM

When a snotty teenager is talking back to her spineless mom. That
annoys me more than a little kid having fun. I had to listen to that
one day, and I wanted to smack that brat across the face myself.

Reply


Or when... by RebeccaBee Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:04 PM

oh boy by renay wits Tue July 4, 2006 @ 1:34 PM


I find it interesting by Leanne L Thu July 6, 2006 @ 5:41 PM

I did see that happen by Big Tom Tue July 11, 2006 @ 10:09 PM
by p d Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:45 PM

While I don't always like to hear kids (I'm going on the assumption
they were maybe being a little loud, thus the complaint) when I'm in a
store, I like that you were keeping them occupied.
I agree with you that the saleswoman could have handled it the way you
say.
Good luck with your letter.

Reply


by *Brenda* Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:20 PM

I think that the OP realizes that she and her kids may have annoyed
other people. She was complaining about the way the clerk approached
her. All she had to do was ask them to be quieter, not say she would
call security.

Reply


Well..... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:28 PM


Mary Jo by *Brenda* Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:22 PM


Of course... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:49 PM


If she had been told to stop, by Dave R Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:55 PM


True... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:11 PM


Exactly! People seem to be overlooking this by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:33 PM


I agree. by Dave R Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:51 PM


Dave by *Brenda* Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:15 PM


Dave and Brenda by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:01 PM


Why should the employee even be put in this situation?! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:20 PM


Amazingly, the employee had the choice. by Dave R Wed June 28, 2006 @ 6:57 PM


Well, by Iconophiliac Wed June 28, 2006 @ 7:40 PM


I didnt realize.... by mary jo Fri June 30, 2006 @ 10:03 AM


Fair enough. by VidraysAvatar Fri June 30, 2006 @ 1:20 PM


I WAS there... by VidraysAvatar Fri June 30, 2006 @ 1:26 PM


Whoops! by VidraysAvatar Fri June 30, 2006 @ 1:29 PM


again by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:14 PM

by Venice Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:54 PM

So, I fall asleep for a few hours and look what I missed.

Without even reading all of these comments, I think I get the gist of
the opinions of Nichole and her children. After reading the letter
again and Nichole's responses to the posts, and attemtping to place
myself in that predicament, I have come to the conclusion that Nichole
was not out of line in the way she handled her children, and that the
employee was the one actually annoyed. I believe that no one was
waiting for the dressing room, and that none of the customers
complained.

As I've said, I am easily annoyed by noisy children, but if Nichole's
description of their behavior in the dressing room is accurate, I can
honestly say that I would have been smiling as I enjoyed the quiet
sounds of children having fun. I think the employee was abrupt and
ill-mannered, and should have handled the situation with a little more
tact.

So there. Go ahead and let me have it. I'm not changing my mind (and
it's not just because my daughter moved out yesterday and I miss her),
it's because I believe Nichole did nothing wrong.

Nichole, I know you didn't think it was necessary when you wrote the
letter, but it would have been helpful if you included some of the
information contained in your responses. It made the situation much
clearer to me.

Reply

Thank you. by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:59 PM


Wrong by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:42 PM


You still dont get it! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

Question for you all (and a shameless plug) by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:00 PM


work actually by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:08 PM

I'm in the same boat... by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:34 PM


finally by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:07 PM


How can you say... by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:44 PM


Also can't say by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:51 PM


I realize that I could be wrong... by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:54 PM


Are you forgetting.. by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:30 PM


EXACTLY!!!! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:29 PM


None of us know... by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:10 PM


we believe her as well by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:15 PM


Nope by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:20 PM


Well thats what her own letter stated... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:21 PM


In her letter by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:23 PM

by AmandaBanana Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:47 PM

Wh yare we arguing over how kids should act? This whole letter has
nothing to do with that. It's about employees knowing how to speak to
paying customers. WOW...we all got TOTALLY off topic on this one. The
question isn't why the employee had to speak to her, it's how she did
it. It was completely unprofessional. That's the point she is making.

Reply


Ignoring the real issue by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:51 PM


BUT by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:06 PM


but you are assuming... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:14 PM


Yes, but by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:51 PM

Thank you. by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:56 PM


no problem by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:10 PM


You kids are NOT being attacked.. by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:28 PM


No one is attacking your children by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:01 PM


All of the letter is the issue. by vc Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:57 PM


right but by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:09 PM


No it ISNT by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:16 PM


How are people missing the obvious point? by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:35 PM


Oh I agree... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:14 PM


I agree by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:26 PM


yes and no by vc Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:27 PM


nicely put by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:07 PM


You have to be kidding! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:24 PM

This is what they're saying... by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:39 PM


better yet by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:05 PM


Its a website... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:34 PM


watching by AmandaBanana Tue June 27, 2006 @ 7:50 AM


No one is attacking anyone and you are wrong. by mary jo Tue June 27, 2006 @ 9:49 AM


herself by AmandaBanana Tue June 27, 2006 @ 10:52 AM


No one has been hateful toward her by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 2:50 PM


Exactly by Iconophiliac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 6:49 PM


i guess by AmandaBanana Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:33 AM


sorry by AmandaBanana Wed June 28, 2006 @ 8:35 AM


Oh well... by mary jo Fri June 30, 2006 @ 9:36 AM

by MaterialGirl850 Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:51 PM

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that perhaps other
people were waiting to use the dressing rooms for their intended
purpose and that was at least part of the reason a sales associate had
to talk to step in. I know I'd complain if I were waiting to try on
one shirt or a pair of pants and there was someone taking up one of
the dressing rooms by dancing and singing. As far as I'm concerned,
if you're dancing and singing, you're not quickly trying on clothes,
which is what dressing rooms are there for. If you're not using the
dressing room for trying on clothes or are just taking an excessively
long time to try on a couple things, they have every right to ask you
to leave or at least knock off whatever you're doing that's taking so
long, especially if what you are doing is causing a disturbance to
other customers. It's nothing against children in particular, nor do
I personally hate children and it is in absolutely no way
discriminatory. I'm positive they would have said the same thing to a
grown woman if she was in there singing songs from Broadway musicals.

Reply


Wow - great point! by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:55 PM

No one was waiting... by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:00 PM


Oh, really by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:01 PM

Not changing anything. by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:09 PM


You said yourself in your letter... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:19 PM


Who was complaining then? by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:20 PM

The manager said that by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:24 PM


Was the manager even there? by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:30 PM


Okay by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:24 PM

They weren't rallying by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:26 PM


No by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:29 PM

No... by xherbivorex Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:55 PM


Nope...not getting it by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:57 PM

Re: No one was waiting... by MaterialGirl850 Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:59 PM


Thats a good point! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:08 PM

Excellent point by S. Brown Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:03 PM


Very true by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:22 PM
by Nichole Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:46 PM

WOW Who would have known that so many people actually HATED little
kids!??

Actually my children were not screaming songs in loud voices. My
children do not do what they want to do. I did not instigate
anything. As I stated in another one of my posts... I don't
particularly like other people's little children and I am VERY careful
to keep my children in check when we are in public together. They are
far from loud mouthed brats. I would NEVER allow them to act that way
in public. They are 2 and 3. They were using their "little voices"
to sing their ABC's, Some Chicken Little song... I certainly was not
singing like I was trying to win some blue ribbon. As I stated in my
letter... if she would have just asked that we quiet down there
wouldn't have been a problem. It was her being mean and nasty about
it. SHE had a problem with my children and SHE decided to give me
grief about it. I don't care if she likes kids or not, she is paid to
be kind to customers and handle situations in a professional manner.

Question for of you that have a problem with my children entertaining
themselves... Would you rather they scream, run around your feet and
cause chaos or spin in circles singing songs in my dressing room? Oh,
wait! Maybe we shouldn't take children out in public at all! That's
it! Let's ban them all!! I think that many adults forget that they
were once germ sharing, sometimes too loud little kids.

Reply


Irrelevant by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:00 PM

I don't think people HATE kids... by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:00 PM


Ooh, good point by vc Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:10 PM


If you think that everyone who posted here hates children... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:08 PM

you need to think by Leah Tague Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:10 PM

Everyone is accusing them of misbehaving by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:23 PM


No one said they shouldn't be there by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:27 PM


NO ONE said that.... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:32 PM


They don't hate kids by vc Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:22 PM


Oh here we go, on our way to #1!! by Gdess74 Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:23 PM

you're missing the point by Cass Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:37 PM


There are much more annoying things than... by Dave R Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:29 PM


Who are you going to complain to... by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:06 PM

You're missing the point by S. Brown Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:41 PM

by vc Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:10 PM

The problem lies in the fact that you failed to follow simple rules of
decorum in public. First you were singing in public, with children in
a department store no less. People who sing/whistle in public for no
other reason than to make noise are, contrary to their beliefs, not
making the world a nicer place. Second, you encouraged your children
to break the aforementioned singing in public rule because you think
its cute.

Having spent more than my fair share with parents and children I can
assure you that not everyone adores your kids. I'm not saying they
are misbehaving monsters or the bane of society as I'm sure you were
doing what you could to keep them content during mommie's shopping.
It just isn't always appropriate.

Reply


by RedheadWGlasses Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:08 PM

I wouldn't mind a mom amusing her small kids while in the dressing
room, as I stated below.

What I'd LOVE to see is theatre employees dealing with parents of
small children in the same way! Shut 'em up or get them out of the
theatre at which I paid $8.50 to see an adult movie at 9:30 p.m.

Reply

Don't you get me started again... by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:18 PM


It breaks my heart, and i consider it to be child abuse by RedheadWGlasses Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:27 PM

Funny you had a "Ransom" experience by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:33 PM


Argh! by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:38 PM


Jurassic Park by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 1:04 PM

I've got one that HAS to have all other stories beat by niNJA Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:02 PM


Ick by LadyMac Tue June 27, 2006 @ 4:47 PM

I agree completely... by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:50 PM


What was worse by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:32 PM

by AmandaBanana Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:35 AM

Hey...I give you all the credit in the world for being a GOOD PARENT.
You like interaction. I think youshould try to have fun with your kids
anywhere yo ugo and I love children also. If they were screaming and
crying i could see people getting mad, but not playing happily.
Nothing sounds better to me than a giggle from a child. Keep your head
up...the sales assiciate was wrong. The child haters will be quick to
judge you, but remember there's people like me who would say the same
thing yo usaid if it happened to us. I know some people won't agree
with this comment, or may take it the wrong way...but i just wish
people would try to have more patience. These kids are lucky to have
her as a mom...and will probably be less liekly to run the streets as
opposed to the kids who have parent sthat feel kids should be seen and
not heard!

Reply


That would be fine and well...IF by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:59 AM


and see by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:38 PM


Mary Jo is a parent by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:40 PM


wow by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:45 PM

Huh? by Morghandi Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:31 PM


I said by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:35 PM


and as i said by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:56 PM


Had I known that, by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:05 PM


matter of opinion by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:13 PM


When you act like a fool... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:28 PM


cold by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:32 PM


You should really comprehend what you are reading... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:45 PM


again by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:13 PM


You are right... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:23 PM


and one more time by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:58 PM


I am not judging you by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:56 PM


I don't think you're cold by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 5:26 PM


I see what you're going through by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:28 PM


thanks by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:34 PM


you are missing the point... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 1:10 PM


Not the point by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:01 PM


This letter has taught me something by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:04 PM

Yeah, but by niNJA Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:58 PM

by Gdess74 Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:26 AM

You need to realize not everybody wants to hear your children. YOU may
think it's cute, most others do not.

If you wanted to sing silly songs and dance you should have gone to
Gymboree, not Kauffmans.

Reply

by Cass Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:30 AM

I'm another one of those cranky people who does NOT appreciate the
sounds of innocent young children's voices raised in song. I agree
that the sales person could have and should have handled it better,
but I also agree with several previous posts - no matter how precious
and charming you find your kids, undoubtedly your sing-along was
annoying other customers, and they probably did complain. As
previously suggested, next time find a quieter activity to keep the
kids entertained.

I DO appreciate that you're not demanding freebies, though!

Reply


Now, THAT by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:41 AM

LOL! by Cass Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:20 PM

by Aleyria Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:25 AM

The saleswoman should have been nicer but you should have been more
aware of the people around you. Not everyone likes kids and you
probably were annoying some people. The next time you take the kids
shopping you might want to use it as a lesson in "inside voices."

Reply

by mary jo Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:21 AM

I have a couple of opinions on this letter.

First of all, I am a mother...and me and my son sing a lot. We do not,
however, do it to the great annoyance of others.

I think there is a little respect issue being ignored here. It seems
that you expected something from the employee that you werent willing
to give everyone else. You werent the only people in the store and you
should have realized that not everyone wants to hear you and your
children singing in the changing rooms. You should be aware of your
fellow human beings. Maybe there was someone there who had recently
lost a child. Maybe someone who couldnt have children. And while I
personally cant fathom it..someone who just doesnt like children. And
since you were obviously not in the children's department you were
invading THEIR right to shop for adult clothing without having to deal
with the added stress of children. Yeah...those are extreme
circumstances...but you never know. When my son was born premature and
in the NICU for a month I CLEARLY remember going downstairs to the
McDonalds that was in the hospital and sitting at the table bawling my
eyes out while I watched the MANY children playing and running and
eating. All the while wondering if my child who was upstairs and
hooked up to wires and monitores would ever be one of those children.
Little different situation in that McDonalds is DEFINATELY a place
where children are welcome but its just something you should take into
consideration.

I dont understand why you didnt leave your children with the two other
women you were shopping with. Did you not trust them to take care of
your kids while you tried on some clothes. I HATE taking my son with
me into a dressing room but when I have to I make sure he is still and
quiet and doesnt bother anyone because I KNOW how stressfull dressing
rooms can be! LOL! Especially when you arent a pencil thin model or if
you are looking for something very special and having trouble finding
it.

I find it hard to believe that the employee jumped so quickly to
threatening to call security. Was there something you left out here? I
doubt even the hardest person would call security on two small
children who were singing. My guess is that between the THREE of you
you were getting out of hand and being obnoxious to everyone around
you. If YOU had told your chidren to be quiet there would have been no
problem. But there you were in the middle of it seemingly making the
situation worse. You said yourself that they were going to call
security to take "us" out of the store. Not your children alone. My
guess is they knew who the instigator was here.

Fact is, you should have been the adult in the situation and realized
you werent at home or outside. You were in a store where you should
have been more respectful of other people around you. Yes, children
are wonderful and beautiful. But more often than not..they are MORE
wonderful and beautiful to YOU than they are to anyone else. Next time
remember to use your "inside voices" and you might not have a problem.
Leave the singing to the car, home, park, ect.

Now...should the employee have been more sensitive to you and your
children? Possibly. But you should have also have been more sensitive
to the fact that you were in a place of business...not Chuck E Cheese.
So..given the situation, I am guessing the employee was being as kind
as possible. Maybe she thought there was THREE children in the
room....

As for the tag...thats pretty much a non-issue. I know a girl who got
home with a formal dress with a security tag still on it. Didnt
realize it until we were at the party! The whole night, not only was
she embarassed that she had this thing hanging from her dress...but we
kept expecting the dye to explode from it. I think it happend to me or
my sister once years ago as well. So it DOES happen..just not very
often.

I am wondering why, though, if you were so offended at how you were
treated..how you still went ahead and spent your money there. I would
have walked out the door the second someone insulted and threatened me
like that. If, again, it all happend the way you said.

Reply


I wondered that as well by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:44 AM


You're right by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:45 AM


I know... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:52 AM


Agreed by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:58 AM

by Giant Soldier Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 9:43 AM

I totally agree with you. That sales associate was out of line. She
could have handled it better. Having to go shopping with a two and
three year old is hard. One grocery store near me actually has a kid
care zone. My wife was really grateful for it (she does the majority
of the grocery shopping).

Ten years ago, we, too were reprimanded in stores, church, at work.
One of my kids was boisterous. What can I say?

Don't sweat it. Do your best. Teach your children how to behave well
and then when they get to be 13 or 14 years old they'll be in high
demand. They'll be pleasant, thoughtful and alert people and friends
and family will be wanting to take them places: the opera, the
football game, to Mexico for a trip etc. And that's a good thing. It's
the benefit of being well socialized. But you're doing the hard work
now and don't forget that.

Reply

by tickytack Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 8:53 AM

Give me a break. Did you honestly think the other customers wanted to
listen to you and your kids singing "silly songs"? Personally, I
think you're lucky - at least it was just the sales woman who said
something. Had I been there, I'd have been far less polite.

Additionally, she was threatening to call security on YOU - not your
children - because you clearly weren't controlling them.

If the security tag wasn't removed, please explain how you were able
to leave the store with the dress?

Reply


kinda mean by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 9:25 AM


Not mean by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:05 AM


cant complain by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:22 AM


Of course by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:53 AM


Exactly my point by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:25 AM


frankly... by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:31 AM


Again by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:34 AM


not sure by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:43 AM


Yes, there are kids in public places by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:06 PM


Quote by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:09 PM


Blog by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:39 PM


I know what you said by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:27 PM


Then you are taking it way too far by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:35 AM


not monsters by AmandaBanana Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:39 AM


we JUST said by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:08 PM


No one said that by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:22 PM


"You have to be prepared for anything". by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:26 PM


Hey, Here's an idea by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 3:28 PM


That's right! by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:11 PM

Offensive by jcdp Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:05 PM


Oh gosh by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 6:29 PM

But by jcdp Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:09 PM


There is a difference by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:27 PM

why by jcdp Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:48 PM


Oh, please by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:52 PM


So basically.... by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:38 PM


Oddly enough... by Evil Erik Mon June 26, 2006 @ 7:05 PM


Thanks, Eric by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:21 AM


Not a problem. by Evil Erik Wed June 28, 2006 @ 4:01 PM


Whooo by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 8:24 AM


Oops again by tickytack Tue June 27, 2006 @ 3:43 PM


Frankly... by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:12 PM


I just thought of something by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:06 AM

*smh* you chose GREAT friends (n/t) by Angelic Princess:) Fri June 29, 2007 @ 12:38 AM

I spoke with the manager today. by Nichole Mon June 26, 2006 @ 2:07 PM


Just wondering by Ree Sat July 1, 2006 @ 11:41 AM
by Peregrina Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 4:59 AM

I'm gonna come out as an evil Child-hatter and say I don't like the
sound of little voices, to me they are the equivalent of nails on a
chalkboard. If I had been a shopper that day there's a fair chance I
would have made my feelings known to the sales clerk or come over and
spoken to you myself.

I'm not saying your children were misbehaving, but I am saying that
not everyone is charmed and amused by silly songs while shopping.

The sales clerk sounds rather abrupt, she could have been more
discreet.

Reply


I agree by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 8:48 AM


Exactly by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:09 AM

by Mr. Mafia Posted Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:04 AM

I don't know why anyone would make a complaint about a two year old
and three year old singing. I wonder if there were really complains
or she was the one with the problem, either way she handled it wrong.
Unless your children were singing at the top of their lungs why should
anyone have a problem with, and if it were the case that your children
were screaming when singing you are right she could have asked you
nicely to quiet them down.

Reply


I'd complain by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:11 AM

by RedheadWGlasses Posted Sun June 25, 2006 @ 11:26 PM

Hmmm I don't trust this sales associate. I'm guessing you were
annoying *her* and she used "other shoppers" as an excuse. I'm not
the #1 fan of little kids, but I think I would have thought it was
cute that you were occupying two little kids that way -- kids can get
so bored when mom is shopping.

I don't think this was worth contacting the store headquarters, and
I"m not even sure it's worth contacting the manager, but that's your
call as a shopper. Sounds like that sales person needed a break!

Reply

Why I decided to write it. by Nichole Kozel Sun June 25, 2006 @ 11:34 PM


I like when you say... by Venice Mon June 26, 2006 @ 12:14 AM


Sorry, but by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 8:57 AM


Good point! by Iconophiliac Mon June 26, 2006 @ 9:00 AM


Be sure by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 9:11 AM


WHOA! by mary jo Mon June 26, 2006 @ 10:47 AM


Thank you! by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:00 AM


No by tickytack Mon June 26, 2006 @ 11:31 AM

Am I missing something? by Rene in TN Mon July 3, 2006 @ 11:56 AM




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