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Kitchen Aid stand mixer
Posted Mon October 30, 2006 12:00 pm, by Linda B. written to Kitchen Etc.
Write a Letter to this Company
I was using my Kitchen Aid stand mixer (an older model) to bake a cake last week, as I have so many times before. As I turned up the mixing speed, suddenly the metal hub that can be removed to add attachments flew off the mixer and, acting like a projectile, hit and dented my brand new cherry cabinet door, bounced off of it, and hit and dented my new hardwood floor. I was both amazed and frightened at this as well as subsequently relieved that my grandchildren were not there that day. Had they been standing in the "line of fire" they would have been seriously injured; had the hub hit my microwave door, I'm sure it would have shattered it and bounced off and shattered my glass top range.
I e-mailed and phoned Kitchen Aid who responded that they were sorry and would be happy to send me a "refurbished" model--a newer version of my own if I sent mine back to them. I told them I didn't want to chance a recurrence of the problem and would prefer a hinged hub model if they made one. The customer service rep said I could pay an upgrade fee to get a "refurbished" hinged hub model.
When I explained that I thought they could do better in light of the damage my kitchen suffered, they said they were sorry and that I could file a damage claim. I don't want to claim damages to my kitchen in fact; I want a safe mixer that does not send parts airborne.
I think that Kitchen Aid is discounting the safety issue and has little concern or sympathy for the damage I incurred as a result of this accident. I just had my kitchen remodeled in the spring and have no desire to tear it up again to fix the defects I now have as a result of the incident I have described. I do think they should offer to replace my mixer with one I deem safe, and not with a "refurbished" one that carrries an assessed upgrade charge. They seem to take the band-aid approach to customer safety and satisfaction. For a company as large and successful as Kitchen Aid, they seem oblivious to the serious issues that customers bring and the power of word of mouth referrals as well. I don't think they should be trying to make a profit, however small, on my misfortune caused by thier product.
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by Franniefantastic Posted Tue November 28, 2006 @ 11:26 PM
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Did you only talk to a representative. Insist that you be put on the phone with at least a manager, their supervisor, etc. If they can't do anything about the damage and what you would like them to do for you to resolve this matter, talk to someone higher up. If all fails, talk names, write a letter to corporate detailing what happened, who you talked with, and what they said (or their excuses). Then, again, let the recipriant of your letter know exactly what your demands (if you would like to tone it down, what your wishes are to resolve the issue). Make sure that the letter is sent certified mail, return receipt requested. Keep a copy of your letter for your file. Good luck!
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by Andrea Ritter Posted Thu November 2, 2006 @ 10:28 PM
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I just have one question, why did she write to Kitchen Etc? Did she purchase the stand mixer from them? I have had the Kitchen Aid Stand Mixer for about 4 years now, and one time I did put the hub part on loosely, and the only thing that happened was when I turned on the mixer, it fell off on to the counter. Very slowly at that too.
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by donno Posted Wed November 1, 2006 @ 8:12 PM
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If the knob was tight, that cover would not come off in using the mixer directly afterwards.
If the knob went flying, what actually happened is that it fell into the mixer (due to gravity), and was then launched at a high speed out of the bowl. If a wood item were hit, damage would most likely occur.
The cover and screw can't "Wear out" unless the threads on the screw became damaged. There is nothing to wear out. There is no reason to take the screw out, and if you had and put it back in wrong that is not Kitchenaid's fault.
This happened to my mixer - it caused quite a noise but no damage to the bowl or paddle.
Having the cover hinged now is probably the result of problems such as we have had. Not good to have something that vibrates be able to come loose and let the item it is holding fall into a "mechanism". Perhaps they recognized a weakness and corrected it.
So my deduction is that is is a bad design because it relies on Susie and Sam Homemaker to check the bolt to make sure the screw it is tight. I haven't checked the manual - it probably says something about it. So, you want the improved design to replace your old mixer. Sounds grand, but I don't see why Kitchenaid should do anything to help you get that model. I have two of the old models. I would like the new model also, but I don't desire to spend the $ for them. If the tire goes flat on my car, I can't go to the dealer and ask for a new car with the fancy tires that never go flat. I also can't ask them to pay for the rim that got ruined when the tire went flat.
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by MA Loper Posted Wed November 1, 2006 @ 3:55 PM
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I guess what I don't understand is, if this is an older model, (and I'm going to assume here that a problem like this has never happened before) that perhaps the mixer itself is just worn out?
Given that, I'd have to completely agree with the other commenters and say that the offer by Kitchenaid is quite generous. To be honest, they could have told you that they aren't obligated to help you out at all on an appliance that old.
I also don't think they are intentionally minimizing the damage to your kitchen or the potential safety issues, but honestly, what more can a customer service rep do? Other than offer to file a damage claim (which you claim you don't want) and they even offered you the opportunity to upgrade the defective part at less than what it would cost you to buy a new mixer, it's not like there were many other options for them to present to you.
Bottom line, they offered you some remedy to your problem, which, given the facts as you've stated them, was wholly fair. You are basically saying it's not enough and unless they give you a brand new mixer, you incinuate that you will bad mouth them to everyone you know
Yeah, that will get them to help you. . .
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by Mike R. Posted Wed November 1, 2006 @ 1:26 AM
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I'm in agreement with other posters.
Kitchenaid offered to replace and older model with one that had be reasonably refurbished, or allow you to upgrade.
Sounds reasonable.
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Andrew
by Venice Fri November 3, 2006 @ 3:21 AM
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by S. Brown Posted Tue October 31, 2006 @ 4:38 PM
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I'm a bit confused by your point of view - - and I'm also wondering how old your "older model" mixer is.
They offered you a refurbished newer model of what you have and you didn't want that. You told them you want a hinged hub model and they agreed to send you a refurbished one for an upgrade fee (of which you don't state the dollar amount) and you also didn't want that. When you told them you thought they could do better they suggested you file a damage claim to which you replied "I don't want to claim damages to my kitchen . . ." so it sounds to me like you just want them to ship you a brand new, current model mixer - - and it seems odd that you're more concerned over a mixer than your kitchen cabinets and flooring.
So what's your point - - that your new kitchen cabinet and flooring was damaged by the mixer malfunction or that you want a brand new, upgraded model mixer for free?
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by franese Posted Tue October 31, 2006 @ 4:36 PM
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You don't say how long you've had your mixer, but I know that their stand mixer's last almost forever - have you ever noticed all the cooking shows use them? Considering your mixer could be 20-30 years old, they're very generous to do anything
I have used kitchen aid products (I don't have the mixer) and I know that they stand behind their products. They've been more than generous with you - you make it seem like all you want is a brand new mixer for free.
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by school mascot Tue October 31, 2006 @ 1:57 PM
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by Firebrat Tracy Posted Tue October 31, 2006 @ 11:58 AM
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I have to agree with the other posters.
I think Kitchen Aid was more than fair and, if the comments here are any indication, your thinly veiled threat of bad-mouthing them have backfired considerably.
I've never owned a Kitchen-Aid product, but having read how generous they've attempted to be with you, they will definitely have my future business.
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Good call
by snurli Wed November 1, 2006 @ 1:04 PM
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by school mascot Tue October 31, 2006 @ 2:20 PM
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by Cass Posted Tue October 31, 2006 @ 8:05 AM
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You mentioned that it's an older model that you've used many times. Unfortunately, appliances don't last forever, and things like this can happen when they start to break down. It sounds like the newer models have design improvements to prevent accidents like this one. I'm guessing your mixer is out of warranty, and Kitchen Aid really doesn't have any responsibility. I think you should accept their offer of a refurbished or upgraded (at a fee) mixer. A pretty fair offer, in my opinion.
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by Gino Version 1.2 Posted Mon October 30, 2006 @ 10:14 PM
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I'm surprised this piece flew off with such force to damage a cabinet, ricochet and dent a hardwood floor. I own an older model Kitchen Aid Mixer and have been more than satisfied with their product and their warranty. I also had an issue past warranty and haven't had a problem with the refurbished model. They did their best to make me "whole" and not need to pay for another mixer.
It's basically a screw on cover that has nothing behind it but a turning mechanism to power the attatchements. Did it fall into the bowl and get flung out with the paddle first? I have a 4 and a half quart model and I know kitchenaid has a one year warranty on all their mixers (currently in the 240 to 550 price range. The only differences are the size of the bowls, the power of the motors and wether it has a screw on cover or a hinged cover).
So if the machine is one year or less, they will replace it with a new model. Their policy after that is a refurbished model, which dosen't mean second rate... it has to meet their quality standards the upgrade charge is because the refurbished model you'll be getting is of a better quality than the one you currently own.
Anyway, i think the key word in your letter is clearly "accident". There's nothing behind this cover to cause the kind of force needed to make it a projectile. If the screw were fastened properly, it couldn't fall into the bowl, another way of making it move with such force.
I agree it was unfortunate but I also agree it was an accident. I think their offer of a refurbished model,even an upgraded model at an extra fee, IS showing they care for the customer. And the option of filing a damage complaint is still an option at your disposal either with Kitchen Aid or your homeowner's insurance should you not accept their offer(s).
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Gino
by Venice~PFB Site Moderator Mon October 30, 2006 @ 11:08 PM
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by snurli Wed November 1, 2006 @ 5:16 PM
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