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Left Naked in a Broken Dressing Room at Kohl's

Posted Wed August 20, 2008 12:00 pm, by Heather V. written to Kohl's Department Stores

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During a visit of the Beaverton, Oregon store located on Canyon Road, I was attempting to use a fitting room in the Junior department. There was not an attendant on duty and the fitting rooms were all occupied except one. The last fitting room available had a broken lock and the door would not remain closed. This particular fitting room was the first room, at the entrance to the rooms. In order to use this room, which was not marked as damaged or unusable, I asked my friend of the opposite sex to hold the door closed for my privacy.

While I was changing he was chatting with a mother of someone in another room in the hall and joking. He was standing in full view of the store at the entry where the fitting room was located. After a few minutes a lady that worked in the store approached him and and said in an accusatory tone "excuse me sir, I need you to leave this dressing room, you are a man and this is a woman's dressing room" to which he replied "I am holding the door because the lock is broken." she told him to leave the room and she would move me. All of this I heard through the door, and I heard the customer he was joking with earlier make a comment about how rude the employee's behavior was.

He left, and I was left exposed in the dressing room. She never returned to keep the door closed or offer to move me when I was dressed to a room that would close. I hastily dressed, and was infuriated, I felt as if I was being judged as a pervert because I asked a man to hold my door to the dressing room closed in a woman's dressing room. I found my friend outside in the parking lot mortified and embarrassed.

Angry about what had occurred with the associate I went back into the store and asked to speak to the manager on duty. When the manager arrived, it was the same associate. She was extremely short with me and rude. She explained that another costumer had approached her with the issue of my friend and her comfort. I responded that if that was the case, where was my comfort when I was left in the changing room half dressed with a door that would not close, also where was my friend's comfort when she spoke to him. She did not take responsibility for her part in the situation which placed me half-naked in a broken dressing room. She was very defensive and combative, which is not what I expected.

As a result of this experience, I will no longer shop at Kohl's.

I do not have any suggestions due to the result that I will no longer be a customer in their stores.


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by Bryte Posted Sat November 8, 2008 @ 11:09 AM

It sounds like you put YOURSELF in a broken dressing room. You said
that there was no attendant on duty. You entered the dressing room,
you then noticed that the lock was broken? I would have waited for one
to open up, just as you would have if you were in a public restroom
where either the door or the tollet was broken and all the other rooms
occupied.

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by stefi Posted Sun November 2, 2008 @ 5:54 PM

If you knew the lock was broken and you had to have your male friend
hold the door for you, you deserved all the treatment you got! It
sounded like you had a tone with the associate (manager) and that's
why she had it out for you. Your stupidity is the reason why you were
treated the way you were so you didn't get any sympathy here.

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by Ricki S. Posted Sun October 26, 2008 @ 11:13 PM

I never have a problem with a man in a dressing room in the Women's
section or vice versa. I don't see how anyone can. When stores get
busy, dressing rooms are packed. I've used the dressing room in the
Men's section before and my husband has used the dressing room in the
Women's section. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Heather's
friend wasn't in there trying to catch glimpses of women changing, he
was only holding the door for her so she could try clothes on. Now if
he had been acting strange, I'd understand why the other customers
complained. But he was just holding the door. What's so wrong with
that?

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What's so wrong with that?... by WantToPlayAGame? Mon October 27, 2008 @ 12:26 AM


I read most of them before I posted that by Ricki S. Mon October 27, 2008 @ 9:18 PM

by SeattleAnn Posted Sat October 4, 2008 @ 8:33 PM

Wow,Liono, you have WAY too much anger, buddy. That's not healthy.

Heather, found your post interesting. I was with a friend a couple
months ago we had to go to the men's department for something or
other. I was tired and while he shopped, I sat in a chair outside the
men's dressing room of a different department store.

Men were trying on suits etc. Women were coming in and out of the
men's dressing rooms like no one's business. I sat there completely
ASTOUNDED. Because if a man did, as you posted...THAT would be the
result.

I'm wondering why people think it's ok for women to walk in and out of
men's dressing rooms but not the other way around. What is at the
root? That men will "attack" women but women don't "attack" men? Just
thought it was a really interesting observation.

There was not one man that complained, not a one.

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suffer in silence by tron m. Fri November 30, 2012 @ 1:16 PM
by liono Posted Tue September 30, 2008 @ 8:20 PM

I was wrong! One more lastly, not one of you applauded this young man
for being such a gentleman to come to the assistance of this young
lady. Bravely he stepped into the (shocking) forbidden zone.A dressing
room hallway to gallantly hold the door risking who knows what kind of
atrocities. Who knows maybe she needed emergency clothing after having
some kind of accident. Perhaps she had a rip or a tear or a spill or
worse perhaps incontinence. Maybe unlike many of you she does not wear
depends and had a little problem You don't know but you are all safe
to judge from behind your computers.Americans are great defenders,
offenders on phones or the computer but on a face to face usually they
say nothing, stand up for nothing and do nothing. If we could have
fought the war on terrorism with computer blogs and hate mail we would
have won easily because that is the American back bone these days.
Cowards shut up and get involved with real issues. Our economy sucks,
our education, healthcare, job growth all suck. The government
currently spend 3 times more than they takes in. It is not all because
of the war. We do need to stop the war because of money. We need to
curb our foreign spending.go here and read up on what is happening.
All the politicians say we need to cut taxes we need to raise taxes we
need to tighten our belts. Americans work harder than the rest of the
world. We get less time off than almost every developed country in the
world. We are not lazy but the U.S. govt. propoganda mill makes us
think that if we are not working every minute, if we expect our govt.
to do something for us with our tax dollars that if we want free
healthcare and clean streets with out crime then we must be
nonpatriotic lazy americans. While they ride in limos to work in the
morning, get easy bank loans,bounce hundreds of checks. perks gifts,
dinners, travel. Sorry I was born in America but I was not born
stupid. Stop spending my money overseas so you can get a big kick back
from Korea, I mean Kia for the money for a new plant.We do not need to
be giving money to oil rich Africa so that some politician can get a
big bonus from Mobil, Exxon or whoever. Stand up you have a computer.
look up your local politicians and send them a short letter saying.
Please stop overseas spending. We are starving here.Ask them how long
would social security be good for if we had put the war money into it.
How much education, homes, crime free streets could we have had. Well
staffed firehouses, hospitals. schools. If you don't believe me take a
nice ride up to Canada. They spend there money on there country. It is
very nice, lots of police low crime clean streets. Public
transportation art museums free healthcare and nice people.Hey maybe
you don't like what I say but I am trying to shock you to get your
attention. There was a time when Americans controlled there destinies
and then we turned that over to a lot of greedy politicians.I am not
talking about a revolution but just speaking up for what is ours. The
money that they take is ours. The fees that they collect are ours.We
have a supposed govt of represenatives who represent us.Notice they
represent us. Our forefathers fought and died for that right.We as
Americans just throw that gift away because we are too busy. Yet we
will blog for hours about Desperate Housewives. We now have the tool
to not only speak up in a collective but to also share that voice with
millions of people to say rational things to our represenatives that
they as our represenatives can then act on. Please if you care about
anything email me at even if you want to tell me you hate me. I hope
though that you believe in America and also want to help it be th
place it once was. A democracy for the people of America.

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I read this entire post by Ricki S. Sun October 26, 2008 @ 11:06 PM
by liono Posted Tue September 30, 2008 @ 7:37 PM

Lastly my wife has called me into the hallway in most dressing rooms
to look at something she has tried on. What is the big deal. I am sure
because I see it a lot of times. The truth is the U.S. is a rude place
to live where everyone thinks that they are better than the neighbors.
Guess what folks next time you wipe smell it because yours stinks just
the same. I want to emigrate to France. They are nice to each other
but rightly not to snotty Americans.

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by liono Posted Tue September 30, 2008 @ 7:32 PM

Oh yeah Kohl's clothes suck.They do fall apart. Kmart has better
stuff.

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by liono Posted Tue September 30, 2008 @ 7:31 PM

Hey I am a male nurse. I have seen enough old bags naked and trust me
no one wants to see you. Trust me.

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by Expatriate Erik Posted Thu September 25, 2008 @ 11:53 AM

Oddly enough, "Left Naked in a Broken Dressing Room at Kohl's" was
going to be the title of my autobiography. Oh well. I guess I'll have
to think of something else now.

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by eydieville Posted Sat September 20, 2008 @ 2:13 PM

i guess i don't understand why you would go into a dressing room with
a broken lock. is your life so busy that you couldn't wait for a
proper one? while i believe there is no excuse for the employee being
rude, you could have avoided this entirely by exercising a little
patience and waiting for room with a lock. i fault the store too, as
there should have been an "out of order" sign on the door so no one
would go in there in the first place, but honestly, you shouldn't need
to be told that.

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by Nayda B. Posted Mon September 15, 2008 @ 11:50 PM

When you entered the dressing room..and noticed that the lock was
broken..why did you stay in there? Wouldn't it have been easier on
everyone (you and the other customers) to have waited for another one
to free up?

I agree with the other customer..I do not like men in the women's
dressing room.

The associate could have been more polite..but, I fear that we are
missing some of the story, because you were "infuriated"..so perhaps
(and I wasn't there..so I say perhaps) your tone made for the
associates tone.

I agree with you, though. If you feel that they treated you badly you
SHOULD vote with your wallet and shop elsewhere.

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by Patricia F. Posted Wed September 10, 2008 @ 8:23 PM

well in short the customer is always right. if another customer
complained about your male friend in the dressing room the manager is
obliged to do something about it. on the other hand its her job to
make sure that you are taken care of as well. so she was in the wrong
to leave you half naked in a room with a door that wont close. and
being defensive about it instead of at least offering an apology is
just bad customer service.

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by Pauline S. Posted Sun September 7, 2008 @ 5:25 PM

I also do not shop at Kohl's for clothing...they are cheaply made and
are very overpriced...What ever happend to polite people. There is no
excuse for RUDE, My daughter bought a pair of slacks and made the
mistake of going out of town with them and the first time she wore
them was told her hem was coming down...No more Kohl's for her
either...

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, by fight noise pollution Wed September 10, 2008 @ 12:08 PM


I like Kohl's, as do many women I know by RedheadwGlasses Sun September 14, 2008 @ 4:52 PM


I agree.. by Harleycat Mon September 15, 2008 @ 8:43 AM


I like them too. by PossiblyMovingOnUp..BellaSera Mon September 15, 2008 @ 10:25 AM

I like them for other things, but... by KJCat Mon September 29, 2008 @ 6:34 PM


What a lot of people don't realize is by Pagan Sun May 10, 2009 @ 6:48 PM
by X Jiffy Lube Posted Fri September 5, 2008 @ 8:38 PM

You didn't obey the sign that said this was the Womens Dressing Room,
yet you used the last dressing room with a broken lock because there
wasn't a sign. If there was a sign that said "out of order" would you
have obeyed that sign. It sounds like your the kind of person that is
going to do what every she wants to do and if there's reprucusion then
it's somebody else's fault.

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by fight noise pollution Posted Wed September 3, 2008 @ 11:06 PM

Considering how many people treat the dressing rooms as their own
private nursery/daycare, I don't think an adult of the opposite sex
would even bother me that much. At least they wouldn't be screaming,
crying, or running around like they're in a playground while their
"parent" stares blankly into space, oblivious.

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by hersey K. Posted Fri August 29, 2008 @ 11:26 PM

OMG !! I can't believe there's so much interest re: this post !! With
all the stuff going on in the world and country!!

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Oh I know! by anonymous consumer Sat August 30, 2008 @ 2:42 AM
by anonymous consumer Posted Fri August 29, 2008 @ 3:31 PM

So even though you KNEW the door was broken, you still went in because
there wasn't an actual sign stating that the door was broken.

I'm sorry that you had poor treatment, but for the most part you
brought this on yourself when you chose to use a broken dressing room.

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by YouAreKiddingMe Posted Thu August 28, 2008 @ 8:32 AM

Maybe next time you wait for a door that has a working lock. You know
... like normal, patient people.

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by Nate. Posted Wed August 27, 2008 @ 5:21 PM

I was at Kohls today, and I was thinking of this letter while I was
there.

I looked at the dressing rooms in both the mens and womens
departments, and there was no sign or anything. No symbol, no notice,
NOTHING. The only way that there would be a specific gender assignment
would be based upon the general vicinity that they are located in.

To prevent this problem from occurring in the future, here is my
opinion: A polite sign.

With the symbol for the appropriate gender at the top, followed by the
following message;
"For the privacy and comfort of our guests, we request that admittance
to this fitting room be limited to women. Gender specific fitting
rooms are available in each department. If you have questions please
direct them to a Kohl's associate"

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Different at my Kohl's.. by Harleycat Wed August 27, 2008 @ 6:25 PM


Interesting by Nate. Wed August 27, 2008 @ 11:08 PM


I think that is absolutely.. by Harleycat Thu August 28, 2008 @ 11:48 AM

Harley, that symbol may be confusing for a Scotsman in a kilt! n/y by Steve-OH Fri August 29, 2008 @ 9:27 AM

by SiotehCat Posted Sun August 24, 2008 @ 10:19 PM

I think its sad that so many people still have such huge issues with
gender. How can we ever progress as people? From the moment our
children are born, they are either a girl or they are a boy. Girls
wear pink, boys wear blue. Girls play with dolls, boys play with cars.
Girls are the victims, boys victimize girls. When are we going to just
be people? Its time that we stop being defined by our
race,religion,SEX,etc...

The people that are so uncomfortable with a member of the opposite sex
being in the same room need to ask themselves why they feel that way.
What is it exactly that makes them so uncomfortable? Hopefully future
generations will not have to deal with this.

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There is no reason we can't progress as people by ♫Venice♫ Sun August 24, 2008 @ 11:59 PM


Here's my take: by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Mon August 25, 2008 @ 9:20 AM


The only reason by ♫Venice♫ Mon August 25, 2008 @ 5:02 PM


Let me ask you this.. by Harleycat Mon August 25, 2008 @ 11:15 AM


"Girls play with dolls, boys play with cars" by Wolf Mon August 25, 2008 @ 6:13 PM


My thoughts exactly, Wolf! by MA Cunningham Tue August 26, 2008 @ 12:33 PM


SiotehCat by ♫Venice♫ Mon August 25, 2008 @ 8:07 PM

Privacy by Jessica P. Wed September 3, 2008 @ 2:43 PM

defining people by tron m. Fri November 30, 2012 @ 1:30 PM

by Harleycat Posted Sun August 24, 2008 @ 8:23 PM

I asked my 14 year old stepdaugter about this last night. She stated,
in no uncertain terms, that she would be very upset if a man was in
the ladies dressing room, she told me she would probably cry.

Enough said.

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Wow... by ali896 Tue August 26, 2008 @ 3:50 PM


I agree by Nate. Tue August 26, 2008 @ 5:00 PM


She doesn't think men.. by Harleycat Wed August 27, 2008 @ 9:50 AM


Teen slang by Blackrack Tue August 26, 2008 @ 8:15 PM


I have by Nate. Tue August 26, 2008 @ 10:58 PM


Thank you! by Harleycat Wed August 27, 2008 @ 9:43 AM


Excuse me.. by Harleycat Wed August 27, 2008 @ 9:45 AM


She's not alone. by Blackrack Sat August 30, 2008 @ 5:44 PM

by Cubjunkie Posted Sat August 23, 2008 @ 7:14 PM

Another thing is some people have asked why not any No Men Allowed on
the dressing room walls.

It's something 99.99999 percent of people would know. They don't put
it on bathrooms do they?

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Yes they do by Nate. Sat August 23, 2008 @ 9:01 PM


I think by ♫Venice♫ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 10:47 PM
by Cubjunkie Posted Sat August 23, 2008 @ 6:19 PM

Maybe if you weren't so impatient you could have waited for a non
broken locked dressing room to be available?

Oh wait a second that would be being a patient good person.

I'm sure they will be partying at Kohl's tonight to celebrate you no
longer shopping there.

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by redheadedmama Posted Sat August 23, 2008 @ 3:56 PM

report the entire incident to the corporate offices. They should not
have a broken lock on the dressing room and the witch of a manager
should not have been rude to you.

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the letter did go to corporate n/t by SuzieCat Sat August 23, 2008 @ 6:13 PM

by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 11:39 PM

Sometimes, when I want my husband's opinion on something, I have him
sit outside the dressing rooms, but near them, so I can walk out
wearing whatever it is I'm trying on, for him to see. He has my four
kids with him, and is not in the dressing room area, but he still gets
dirty looks or is asked to move sometimes.

If his actions make others uncomfortable, I can't imagine how others
must feel with a man IN the dressing room. I would never dream of
having my husband in there with me. I might not necessarily feel
akward with a strange man in there, knowing he's with a woman, but I
certainly respect that all women have different levels of
modesty/security.

You seem very liberal, were you really that embarrassed to have to
hold the door closed yourself around a bunch of other "gals"?

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When my mother was ill by ♫Venice♫ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 7:17 PM


I'm going to be on an all-female dorm floor. by Blackrack Sun August 24, 2008 @ 2:10 PM


Oh, right... you're college bound! by ♫Venice♫ Sun August 24, 2008 @ 4:55 PM


Forgot to say by ♫Venice♫ Sun August 24, 2008 @ 5:00 PM


Yet the female of the species is often more deadly... by Blackrack Sun August 24, 2008 @ 5:36 PM
by SusanB Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 9:07 PM

What you're saying is that your comfort and your friend's comfort are
more important than the other customers? Not. Your male companion
had no business anywhere near the women's dressing area and you are
the one that knew that the latch on the dressing room door was broken
before you took your clothes off.

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by Rachle Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 8:00 PM

You should have sauntered out and showed them the goods. I bet you
would have gotten a discount.

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by franese Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 4:56 PM

I wasn't sure if I was going to respond to this but...

I actually hope that Kohl's sends you a letter back saying they don't
want your business anymore...if I were one of the women in that
dressing room, I would have been furious. It doesn't mean you or your
male friend were perverts - but it was inappropriate. You should have
waited for one of the other dressing rooms to open

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by Jared C. Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 4:01 PM

all I want to say is that, as a male, if I had been the male friend, I
would've flat-out refused to leave my female friend hanging.

Basically, I would've told the Kohl's employee to "get bent" and
would've remainder holding the door closed.

Cops always take at least an hour to respond to any call, so we
would've been long gone from Kohl's by the time law enforcement
arrived.

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You sound like quite the gentleman by Zan Fri August 22, 2008 @ 4:57 PM


You shouldn't be in there in the first place.. by Harleycat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 6:14 PM
by a_simple_girl Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:10 PM

From my experience of shopping at Kohl's, there are multiple dressing
rooms. Could the OP just of gone into another dressing room? Theres
usually 2 or 3 in juniors and 2 in misses.
As far as waiting for a door in a dressing room to open up, that could
take forever on the other hand. Too many teens and women goof off,
bring like 20+ articles in, and stand in a mirror for 10 minutes
analzing whether their boyfriend will like it on their next date.

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Thank you for that first part! by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:37 PM

by Marty5223 Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:07 PM

I believe if the store manager had a complaint she/he had to react. A
lot of the stores in malls these days have one fitting room and men
and women both use the same rooms. I mean heaven forbid someone gets
attacked in one of the changing rooms, or even someone snaps pictures
of ladies changing with a cell phone camera. Most stores just keep
sexes apart for privacy and safety.

As I have said before I worked many years in retail management.

Women and Men have been going in each others fittings rooms for
decades. Most of the time I had complaints it was from spouses and
girlfriends. We tried to keep them to one sex, but women always walked
in mens fitting rooms.

You also would get the occasional female that was shopping for mens
apparel, and they would often get irate if you sent them to the womens
fitting rooms.

I also managed entire womens clothing areas and found the men were
less likely to enter a womens fitting room. That said the women would
do it all the time in designated mens clothing areas.

Things that happened in fitting rooms at stores I worked in.

#1 Lots of shoplifting
#2 SEX
#3 Restroom use
#4 But mostly just trying on clothes

Some might recall I stated in the past the company I use to work for a
store very similar to Kohls use to deliberately install the slat doors
upside down so that staff and security could walk down the fitting
room halls and see what was going on inside. Most people never
realized this amd if they did notice we were told to just say Thanks
the contractors must of goofed I will let corporate know. Over a
decade later the doors were still upside down. So having men in the
womens fitting room area was a bad idea and vice versa in the stores I
worked. Also some stores monitor their fittings rooms and they must
use same sex staff to do this. Those stores also are required to post
a warning inside that the room is being monitored inside each stall.

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Is "SEX" the same by Donno Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:38 PM

You asked by Marty5223 Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:48 PM


Thanks for mentioning the slats by ♫Venice♫ Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:09 PM


#3 by RedheadwGlasses Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:36 PM


So those doors by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 11:17 AM

by RedheadwGlasses Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 2:42 PM

My disagreement on this issue with Siotehcat (sp?) aside, I really
like her, and I'd just like to stay out of the debate at this point.

Heather, thanks for responding to me and others in a level-headed
manner. You're obviously in the minority, but you didn't (to me) get
defensive or hostile or anything like that. You kept your cool and
then some. Kudos.

While I still don't want men in the fitting room areas, I'm glad your
man is cool about giving you feedback on what you're trying on,
instead of sitting like a bump on a log in the chair outside the
fitting room, looking at his watch and wondering whether he'll make it
home in time to catch the last of The Big Game.

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o.o by SiotehCat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:34 PM

by Jeffrey/Branding/Alex Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 8:35 AM

"defensive and combative, which is not what I expected."

Me, neither. These are contradictory things.

Anyway, despite the points already made about men in women's dressing
rooms, the above point is fair.

As a professional, the way to handle this is to calmly explain to the
customer that (a) they are sorry that the lock was broken, (b) explain
that they have a strict policy of not allowing members of the opposite
sex in dressing room areas, (c) apologize for the lack of signage on
this point, (d) apologize for having given the impression that she was
going to somehow help (like hold the door) and then not.

Oh, by the way, you were not placed half-naked by the salesperson.
You walked into the stall yourself, you took off your own clothes.
All she did was prevent your friend from holding the door.

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by ♫Venice♫ Posted Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:32 AM

I'm not sure if someone has already mentioned this, but what's
interesting is that Heather was infuriated by the possibility of
another woman seeing her in the dressing room but had no problem with
any of the other women possibly being seen by an unexpected male in
the room... something that was not their choice, but hers. What about
the comfort and privacy of the other women in the room? Why should
they be made to feel uncomfortable and have their privacy compromised
just because Heather decided to use a stall with a broken lock? Why
should an exception be made for Heather? What makes her so special? I
think she should apologize to her friend for putting him in that
position because I have no doubt that he was embarrassed.

I'm sorry, but I just don't get this. What if everyone decided to
bring a male companion into the women's dressing room? It would no
longer be a women's dressing room, but a unisex one, and Kohl's
dressing rooms are clearly not unisex.

If this happened to me (and it wouldn't because I would never put
myself in that position), the first thing I'd say would be... that's
what I get for not waiting for a different stall. Then I'd get dressed
while trying to keep the door closed and move to a different stall or
wait for the next available one.

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You beat me to it by Zan Fri August 22, 2008 @ 8:59 AM


I'm just tired by ♫Venice♫ Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:35 PM

by Nate. Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 10:25 PM

I didn't even know Kohl's had dressing rooms assigned to a specific
gender. Is the associate going by what department the fitting room is
in? At my local Kohls, anyone can pretty much go into any dressing
room that they please.

I disagree with everyone else below- how is holding the door shut such
a bad thing? I think the manager was completely out of line. I don't
see what is wrong with being in the general area if you are outside
the actual fitting rooms themselves. And many, many other stores have
unisex fitting rooms, so why get all uptight? He was helping out a
lady, which is very classy in itself.

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This should be black and white, not gray by Donno Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:11 AM


Men? by SiotehCat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 6:07 AM


Kohl's Dressing Rooms.. by Harleycat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:29 PM


I don't see any difference between a dressing room and the restroom by ♫Venice♫ Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:16 PM


Europe by Nate. Fri August 22, 2008 @ 10:52 PM

Venice, you really must work harder at your post titles. I initially thought by Steve-OH Sat August 23, 2008 @ 1:43 AM


Oh boy... I see what you mean by ♫Venice♫ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 2:28 AM


I wouldn't mind by Just Brenda Sat August 23, 2008 @ 9:16 PM


At Kohls, by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:42 PM


What needs to happen by Nate. Fri August 22, 2008 @ 9:57 PM


They do.. by Harleycat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 11:20 PM


I don't see why a sign should be posted. by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Sat August 23, 2008 @ 8:53 AM


It's similar to, in that respect, by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 10:55 AM


Ok by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 11:25 AM
by mcgibblover Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:00 PM

I do agree with the store I don't want men in the woman's dressing
room.Too many weirdos with camera phones. My only question is why
didn't you just hold the door closed with your body? I've done that
many times with the bathroom doors.

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I didn't even by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:03 PM


by ♫Venice♫ Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:24 PM

I usually try not to repeat what's already been said, but in this
case, I can't resist...

You actually thought it was okay for your male friend to be in the
girls dressing room just because you didn't want to wait for a stall
with a door that worked?!!

I hope you never try that in the women's restroom. I don't think
security will be as kind as the Kohl's associate.

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by SiotehCat Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:22 PM

I don't agree with the other posters. When my partner is trying on
clothes, I am always in the dressing room with him and the other way
around. We get to tell each other other our opinions on the clothes.
Things that we don't need to be saying in front of other people. "Your
butt looks nice in that", "It makes you look short and chunky", etc...
It also helps when we are trying on multiple items, because I take
something off and he puts it back on the hanger while I am trying
something else on.

I don't see the big deal. Dressing rooms are designed for privacy. I
have also never had a problem with anyone allowing me into the mens
dressing room and the other way around. If I did, I would be shopping
somewhere else. And BTW, my partner only buys his clothes at Kohls.

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I'm really surprised by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:30 PM

Hee, GMTA Venice! by Zan Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:32 PM


I doubt that it would matter if anyone was unconfortable by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:47 PM

I'm very surprised that you haven't had complaints about this by Zan Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:32 PM


o.o by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:26 PM


safety by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:30 PM


^.^ by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:37 PM


They were together.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:55 PM


I understand by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:56 PM


=^.^= by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:02 PM


you go girl! by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:11 PM


oops, baiting by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:13 PM


Don't really care by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:43 PM


Hmm.. by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:53 PM


well said n/t by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:53 PM


Don't you think by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:59 PM


? by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:03 PM


You know... by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:19 PM


Yes it would be by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:24 PM


I still disagree, BUT... by RedheadwGlasses Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:12 PM


a little by SuzieCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:18 PM


Suzie, by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:07 PM


It has nothing to do with being "uncomfortable" with myself by RedheadwGlasses Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:35 PM


How.. by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:10 PM


I don't care.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:29 PM


Re: by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:41 PM


Maybe you're not uptight like that.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:55 PM


GMTA, Brenda by LadyMac Fri August 22, 2008 @ 1:55 PM


Deb, I'm curious by ♫Venice♫ Sat August 23, 2008 @ 3:05 AM


My son by LadyMac Sun August 24, 2008 @ 3:39 PM


But by ♫Venice♫ Sun August 24, 2008 @ 4:45 PM


Answers by LadyMac Tue August 26, 2008 @ 9:25 AM


=-/ by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:43 PM


some stores have only one fitting room by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:51 PM


So by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:06 PM


Siotech by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:52 PM


Your comfort breaks the rules by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:44 PM


Rules? by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:53 PM


Sometimes rules go without saying by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:05 PM


Thanks Venice by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:19 PM


I have to say by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:26 PM


>. by SiotehCat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:34 PM


Maybe you should go back and read your own comments by ♫Venice♫ Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:35 AM


Bravo Venice...bravo! by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Fri August 22, 2008 @ 1:54 PM


Somehow by ♫Venice♫ Fri August 22, 2008 @ 6:03 PM


Why do we need a sign for something.. by Harleycat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:50 PM


It's about having respect for others by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 6:47 PM


If by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:00 PM


There are associates by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:15 PM


Less likely? by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:18 PM


Yes, less likely by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:25 PM


Wow, by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:32 PM


False sense of security? by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:37 PM


Nope by Just Brenda Thu August 21, 2008 @ 7:42 PM


The Kohl's By Me.. by Harleycat Fri August 22, 2008 @ 3:47 PM

Certainly it's your right by Zan Fri August 22, 2008 @ 9:13 AM


Not everyone thinks only of their own comfort or feelings. by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Fri August 22, 2008 @ 1:49 PM


Why bother.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 4:21 PM


OMG! by Mel2007 Fri August 22, 2008 @ 5:28 PM


Heh...I was thinking the same thing. by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Fri August 22, 2008 @ 8:25 PM

by SuzieCat Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:07 PM

I am sorry, I do agree with the others. it is just plain creepy to
have a man in a woman's dressing area.

Most dressing room doors do not go all the way to the ceiling. was he
tall enough to see over the doors?

The clerk may have come off as short and rude because she was
surprised at the situation.

You had a choice not to use a room with a broken door.I'm sorry, I
just cannot side with anyone but the business on this one.

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The clerk may have come off as short and rude because she was surprised by Zan Thu August 21, 2008 @ 5:28 PM


by RedheadwGlasses Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 1:12 PM

No man belongs in the fitting room in a women's clothing department.
I would have complained as well. But they handled this situation
quite badly. Why not find you another dressing room?

It was okay to have the guy leave (I would have kicked him out as
well, but I would have held the door for the OP if I had to), but it
just was handled quite badly, in my opinion.

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I think the situation escalated.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 1:48 PM


I agree by RedheadwGlasses Thu August 21, 2008 @ 2:05 PM


Me too.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 2:33 PM


I agree Red... by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Thu August 21, 2008 @ 3:49 PM
by Zan Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 12:42 PM

I'm in complete agreement with the other posters. A man does not
belong in a women's dressing room, nor does a woman belong in a men's
dressing room. Would you have had your friend come and hold the door
for you in a public women's bathroom too?

Also, left naked? I hope not. The only thing you would *need* to be
naked to try on would be underpants, and I sure hope you weren't doing
that.

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by NotYetMovingOnUp..BellaSera Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 12:03 PM

You mentioned there was no fitting room attendant. Generally, Kohls
doesn't have fitting room attendants -just associates working in the
area.

And, like others, I'm on Kohls' side. You had a choice to wait until a
dressing room was available with a working lock; you just didn't like
that option. I also don't know why you assumed it was okay for your
male friend to be in the women's dressing room. You mentioned your
comfort and your friend's, but what about the comfort of the other
female customers using the dressing room?

The manager had every right to ask your friend to leave the dressing
room. I don't see her behavior as rude, although I do agree someone
should've held the door for you while you dressed.

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by Bobosgirl Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 11:58 AM

Point 1- You should have not had a male in the juniors dressing room.

Point 2- Another customer complained, and the salesclerk was doing her
job by coming in and asking your friend to leave the dressing room.

Point 3- You had the choice to use that dressing room or have a short
wait for one with a functioning lock and chose to not wait.

Point 4- By saying you will not shop there again, you're only
punishing yourself. They have nice clothes, great sales, and I have
yet to run into a rude employee. If you really felt this employee was
rude, go home and call the store. Ask for the store manager on duty,
and voice your complaint. Be polite, state what happened, and give the
manager a chance to talk to the employee in question and get her
side.

I like the store at Tanasbourne much better- my girls are always
dragging me there- have you tried that location?

It kind of sounds like you blew this out of proportion.

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by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 11:37 AM

While I can agree that someone had to hold the broken door closed it
should have been someone other than a man. I would be a bit uneasy
also even if he was standing on the outside barely in the door.

This does not excuse the associate/manager's behavior by any means and
she could have returned and taken you to another room...or if none
available hold the door shut for you.

But where was your common sense in all of this. If there is a
lock/latch that does not work on a dressing room door then do not use
it! Ask the attendant or staff member to be given another room or if
none available then wait until one is.


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by ST Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 10:04 AM

I'm with the other commenters. You had other choices, you just chose
not to use them. You could have gone to another dressing room. You
don't sound like a Junior, so I don't know that you would be trying on
Junior clothes. You could have waited for another dressing room to
open up. You could have notified an employee of the broken lock.

Having a male in a womens' dressing room, especially in the Juniors
section, was not a very bright idea. If I would have been there, I
would have reported it as well.

I know where this store is located, and it's not a small store. There
would be more than one set of dressing rooms. If you are indeed that
upset from your experience at this store, there is another Kohl's in
Hillsboro, if you absolutely refuse to go back to that location again.
It's a big store as well, and they also have more than one set of
dressing rooms.

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Lots of people are not a junior by Bobosgirl Thu August 21, 2008 @ 11:48 AM


I do agree.. by Harleycat Thu August 21, 2008 @ 12:01 PM


by Harleycat Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 9:43 AM

I'm sorry, I'm with Kohl's on this one. A man does not belong in the
women's try on room, especially in the junior department, for any
reason. I would have been the customer that reported it. If my
teenaged stepdaughter had been in there trying on clothes, all he**
would have broken lose if a man was in there.

If the lock was broken, you could have waited for another dressing
room or went to a different section.

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by RowdyRetailer Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:49 AM

He was in a women's area, that is enough to make some females
uncomfortable. The fact that he was talking and joking around with
someone makes it even more evident that he is there.

Perhaps the lock was just broken, or there was a sign on it, and
someone took it down.

I have worked Grocery for many years, and I cannot tell you how many
times people take down out of order signs on coke machines. I guess
they get their kicks off it.

If you knew the lock was broken when you got there, you could have
waited until the next stall opened up. While you were waiting you
could have informed the clerk that the lock was broken, and she could
have done something about it.

Good Day

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left naked in a broken dressing room at Kohl's by Mary G. Mon September 29, 2008 @ 8:50 AM
by Steve-OH Posted Thu August 21, 2008 @ 8:06 AM

area, the manager had no choice but to ask him to leave. It sounds
like that area of the store was busy so she probably shouldn't have
made a promise to you that she couldn't keep, but I think she was
trying to appease the majority of the female customers. If your
perception of her was that she was rude, then she was - but I hope you
can try and see it from her point of view. I didn't get the impression
that anyone was judging you as a pervert.

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I agree by ~Fiナ-la-ネea~ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 9:27 AM


And no one was judging him a pervert either... by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Thu August 21, 2008 @ 11:39 AM




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