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Please Eliminate Mail-In Rebates, Office Depot
Posted Mon June 11, 2007 12:00 pm, by Walter T. written to Office Depot, Inc.
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Office Depot happily advertises prices that are NET of mail-in rebates but they have a lousy track record honoring those rebates.
Out of 8 diferent mail-in rebates worth about $175.00 in total, I have received only $12.00 and that came from the Northridge, CA store where the Manager paid it to me out of his petty cash fund. Office Depot's 800 Customer "Service" number will not do any follow-up and requires that the customer write a complaint to the same address that is on the rebate form. Those letters go unanswered.
I suggest that anyone who chooses to buy anything that offers a mail in rebate consider the price to be the shelf price in the store.
Discontinue all mail-in rebate promotions and put all sale merchandise out at the net price. The M-I-R process is a total fraud.
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Honestly, when I was a salesperson, I HATED selling rebates! And I always felt bad when a person came in really upset about not getting one. But most rebates come from the manufacturers, not the retailer... so usually there was nothing I could do but refer them to corporate (again, which I hated doing).
I wouldn't expect things to change though. The rebate game really is about statistics, and the fact of the matter is that people just don't send them, or fill them out right. Even if they can deny a small percentage, its still a gain for them.
8 Rebates for a single item? or was it 8 for your entire purchase several items?
I personally don't like rebates. When I do purchase something that gets a rebate, I make copies of everything and keep them. (oftentimes i lose them, but the effort is there!) I suggest that to everyone, therefore if you miss a rebate you know exactly who to contact and what you are entitled.
My memories of rebates are a nightmare, but they are also dating from a few years ago when rebates were more of a pain. I understand that some stores allow them to be done online now? are they still difficult to understand?
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by spittman Posted Tue June 12, 2007 @ 9:51 AM
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I've actually had the exact opposite experience with rebates. I've gotten rebates that I probably shouldn't have and in the last ten years, I cannot remember not getting a rebate that I sent away for. My best story is when I bought an LCD monitor with a $100 rebate. I filled everything out and put it with the mail to go out. Apparently it got knowcked off the desk and I did not find it until a year later. Even though the rebate period was 6 months gone, I figured I might as well put it in the mail. 3 weeks later I got my $100 check. Based on my experience, if you do everything as required, you'll get your rebate. It's not always easy, but usually worth the little bit of effort.
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by Gino Posted Tue June 12, 2007 @ 12:57 AM
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I don't think MIR is any type of fraud. As almost every poster so far noted, it's worth the trouble to follow directions and keep records. If the instructions say "Highlight in Yellow the price paid on the reciept" (unusual, but just as an example) and someone circles it instead in crayon. Guess what? It gets tossed because the terms were not followed.
I use MIR's all the time, especially if it's something I use or need and the end result is that the item is free (well the cost of postage kind of negates that.) But it's still worth the effort.
I've gotten great offers from MIR on consumables and sometimes buy something I otherwise may not (like 3M laptop computer screen wipes) and find a great product I can trust enough to buy. Sometimes I find something worth avoiding...but that's a chance I take on any purchase anyway.
I do like how some companies have a monthly MIR circular where everything is spelled out and it's convenient to use and STILL it takes patence. I just copy the page and cross off the check(s).
It's a win win situation for the consumer AND the company.
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by donno Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 5:16 PM
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Walter, I reread your letter and realized you didn't provide a lot of details. Thus people are left to wonder how careful you were about following the rebate guidelines. I suppose since this letter is to Office Depot, a few more details are in order (did you follow the deadlines, procedure, etc). I know it can be very exasperating if you DO follow all the guidelines and get bumkus to find the strength to document what has happened, but it is needed for the company or rebate handler to act.
I'll reiterate that some firms are known for sketchy rebates, and one does not always get what one is rightfully due without a lot of pain.
OTOH, the point of many is that you have to follow the rules to the letter, or you can't expect to get the rebate.
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by Angelic Princess:) Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 4:01 PM
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its not a total fraud if you follow the instructions and are PATIENT. If you don't follow the instructions or dont try to follow through, thats not the companies fault. Trust me.. they are NOT going to get rid of mail in rebates. NO ONE will.
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by billt Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 2:39 PM
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I have only had one rebate which was not honored in the last ten years. I still got it, court costs and penalties.
1. read the instructions with a magnifying glass.
2. keep copies of everything.
3. submit promptly.
4. never throw away junk mail until you have checked to insure that there are no rebate checks hidden as junk.
5. call the number on the rebate form on the day given.
ie, if it says 8 weeks, call after eight weeks.
6. when you call the rebate clearing house, always be polite, never threaten, never say liar(i mean lawyer), etc.
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Do tell.
by Lee H. Tue June 12, 2007 @ 12:06 AM
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by MA Loper Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 2:04 PM
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because you danced around this so beautifully but did you actually SEND any of the rebates in to be reimbursed? You don't mention what the time frame is or if you received any verification at all about these rebates, only that the manager paid one of the rebates out of his own store funds.
Heres the thing, companies don't WANT you to send in rebates. They want you to buy things you don't really want at their prices because you think you;re getting such a deak and then they take their sweet time getting your money back to you, hoping you'll forget about it altogether.
You know the old saying, "If its sounds too good to be true, it usually is."
And its not acutally OMax that controls the rebates. The majority of the time, the manufacturers are controlling these things, not OMAX, so the fact the manager caved and gave you money out of his own funds was incredibly generous on his part. That just cut into his profits.
Personally, I would suggest using Staples instead. They offer cash back discounts on items, most (if not all) their rebates can be submitted online without ever mailing a single receipt and they will even send emails to keep you informed throughout the process if you'd like.
They won't stop the rebates, especially not when they can get people like you to spend nearly $200in their stores.
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Whoops!
by MA Loper Mon June 11, 2007 @ 2:05 PM
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I agree with Smiley Guy, and I agree with everyone who said that you probably shouldn't count on getting the rebate, thus you shouldn't take the rebate amount into consideration when making a decision between different products/brands/models.
The one time in the 10 years I tried to get a rebate, I sent it by Priority Mail (Or something like that). Turns out, it was in the fine print that that wasn't allowed (it was easy to miss, I had to read the fine print more than once after the notice I'd gotten from them to that effect). To be fair, they did give me some valuable coupons/vouchers instead of the rebate check.
The last time I purchased something with rebate offers, all the paperwork sat on my dresser until it was too late.
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by Jeffrey Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 12:59 PM
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I, like Lee, have had good luck with rebates. Why? Because I make copies of everything, circle things on rebate forms, and have other tricks to better my chances. Even when I'm rejected (which happens more often than I'd like), I'm always prepared to prove my case and have been successful in virtually all cases.
However...
That's a lot of work. So, I pick-and-choose which rebates to go after, these days. I don't bother with rebates for products I wouldn't have purchased without the rebate. I go after rebates that are worth something. A dollar isn't worth it. $100 is.
My advice to shoppers is to assume you won't get the rebate. Then, shop based on that. That way, you buy things you really want/need and pick a store/price that's fair. It's better to pay $100 for something than $150 with a $100 rebate, some times.
MIR rebates get a bad name. And justifiably so. But when they work, they are a win-win situation.
Remember, rebate processors get selected based on how they have no false positives (giving rebates to people who shouldn't get them). They are not hired based on the number of false negatives (denying people rebates that should get them).
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by donno Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 11:37 AM
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I had terrible trouble with a Dell rebate a year ago. In response to the first response below, I am very organized and tenacious when it comes to knowing, understanding and meeting terms of discounts. I followed every condition and met every deadline, and received squat in terms of tracking or receiving the rebate. Even the seemingly well intentioned CSR's who noticed I had spent over two months and ten hours on the phone trying to get my rebate, and offered cash coupons sent both regular and email, failed. Three such promises were made.
I finally found a customer advocate who credited my account a small amount over the original rebate. She was pretty snotty about pointing out I got "more than I deserved". I pointed out that my hourly pay rate to earn my rebate was about $5.50.
After reading other posts about rebates, it appears most "smart shoppers" assume they won't get a rebate, and buy an item if the price they pay ends up being the final price.
Unfortuantely, I think companies will continue to promote poorly supported rebate programs. I feel your pain.
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It's been my experience that the tenacity required to realize rebates just isn't worth it in most cases. Props to the folks that have the time and systems in place to pursue them.
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by BellaSera Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 8:16 AM
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I'm with you on this one. While I don't believe all mail-in rebate offers are frauds, I generally avoid them as I've heard of too many problems trying to claim them from companies with bad track records of honoring them.
The most important thing is to read everything on the rebate (including all fine print) and make sure you fill out the rebate correctly. I'm not saying you didn't do this, but this is just general advice. Even a simple, easily fixable mistake can hold your rebate offer up for weeks.
Equally important is to retain copies of everything you send to them. The majority of mail-in rebates require you to send in originals (like receipts, UPC codes, etc) so having copies means you have proof.
A lot of mail-in offers also take weeks to process, sometimes up to 12 weeks, which is another reason why I tend to avoid them. But follow up, and follow up often.
If the rebate is past the processing time, and you still haven't gotten it, then I'm not sure where you go from there, but I am sure there is tons of information on the Internet on how to resolve the situation. You're not the only one who has had issues.
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by mswaim Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 8:06 AM
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I feel for you, I really do. I have never had luck with rebates from ANYPLACE, and have for years considered the on-shelf price to be the price I am going to pay. I never count on a rebate. If I am not willing to pay the pre-rebate price, I do not make the purchase, because while they may not be fraud, rebates are made intentionally difficult to claim and simply aren't worth the effort to me. I am always impressed when someone makes it work for them, of course, but rebates just won't get me in a store to make a purchase! I hope you are able to get some of the money you are entitled to from your rebates!!!
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by Lee H. Posted Mon June 11, 2007 @ 4:30 AM
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With all due respect, Walter, you are incorrect. Mail-In-Rebates are not a total fraud. People on this site know that I am a big rebater and use such programs to a large extent. I generally receive well over $1000 worth of rebate each year, and as of yet, have never lost out on one I thought I should receive.
In order to consistently be successful with such rebate programs, you need to have a system of being organized yourself. Far too many people mail in rebates very haphazardly, never keeping copies of everything required, getting proof of mailing or following up with the rebate in a timely fashion.
You also need to know the consumer protection laws within your particular state. Most that I'm aware of protect the consumer as long as you can absolutely show you've correctly completed the rebate process. The rebate becomes a "condition of sale" and the store becomes required to pay for the rebate if the rebate center fails to do so.
I will admit, I did run into a problem with an Office Depot rebate about two years ago, but after carefully following my own structured process, the rebate was paid.
Lets see if I can help you out.
You've stated that you mailed in 8 different rebates. To begin with, were these items purchased at the same time? How about listing off the items purchased, along with the date of purchase and the rebate you expected to receive.
Secondly, it is very important to retain copies of everything you mailed. This would include copies of the rebate form, sales receipt and possibly UPC bar code from the product box. This is a 12 digit bar code presented in the form "x xxxxx xxxxx x".
Have you kept copies of these items. Each rebate form should have a phone number, generally toll-free, to contact the rebate center. Have you done that yet?
Reply back ASAP, as time may be important to claim the rebate(s).
I look forward to hearing from you.
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And how...
by TwinkleToes Tue June 12, 2007 @ 10:05 AM
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