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Rebate Scams Create Ill Will, Office Depot
Posted Thu January 17, 2008 12:00 pm, by Carla W. written to Office Depot, Inc.
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I bought a camera online from Officedepot.com. I mailed in a rebate submission for a $50 rebate to Office Depot. I meticulously followed all instructions and deadlines. Today I got a postcard from OD saying my submission was invalid because "a valid UPC was not submitted". After hunting through my den for hours and creating a cyclone-like paper storm, I found my copy of the paperwork and I HAD submitted the UPC code and have a copy of it. OD gave me 8 days to resubmit the UPC code. Of course, I will do so, but this is the fourth time a company has pulled some kind of scam regarding rebates.
Don't these companies realize the ill will this creates for their brand? Is the money they make by not fulfilling rebate offers so great that they aren't bothered by the bad feelings they cause toward their company? I have gone through a great deal of time and trouble resubmitting proof to companies such as Staples, Symantec, and McAfee. I now avoid dealing with these companies. The same will happen with Office Depot. Sure, those of us who are organized enough and persistent enough will finally get our checks but the bad feelings will last a long time.
Do not offer any more mail-in rebates. Your initial failure to fulfill these rebates, whether or not the customer followed the directions precisely and whether or not the customer finally gets the check from you, results in terrible customer relations and ill will toward your company. You have lots of competition and we consumers will just buy elsewhere. You only know about the money you save by invalidating rebate requests but you'll never know how much business you lose because of consumers as angry as I am.
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Carla,
The exact same situation happened with me. I was sent a card in the mail that said "A valid UPC was not submitted". I was 100% sure that I did submit the UPC (and there is no way it could be missed, it was at least 4 * 8 inches). I was furious when I saw this card. I am very aware of all the rebate scams and always make copies of things I send in. Sure enough, I looked at the copies and I DID send in the UPC. I called the number on the card 866-541-0284 and the first time, my call disconnected after talking to the representative for 30 seconds. I called again, and another representative started looking into it and said "I do see that you DID submit the UPC" and boom! My call disconnected again! Finally on the third call I was able to get confirmation that they are going to send me a check and it will arrive in 2-3 weeks. Needless to say, I won't be shopping at Office Depot again. Regardless of whether I get the check or not, their shady practices are just not worth the hassle.
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Carla,
The exact same situation happened with me. I was sent a card in the mail that said "A valid UPC was not submitted". I was 100% sure that I did submit the UPC (and there is no way it could be missed, it was at least 4 * 8 inches). I was furious when I saw this card. I am very aware of all the rebate scams and always make copies of things I send in. Sure enough, I looked at the copies and I DID send in the UPC. I called the number on the card 866-541-0284 and the first time, my call disconnected after talking to the representative for 30 seconds. I called again, and another representative started looking into it and said "I do see that you DID submit the UPC" and boom! My call disconnected again! Finally on the third call I was able to get confirmation that they are going to send me a check and it will arrive in 2-3 weeks. Needless to say, I won't be shopping at Office Depot again. Regardless of whether I get the check or not, their shady practices are just not worth the hassle.
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Good Grief! Another update. I forgot that I also posted a message on the Office Depot.com's online email website. I just received a reply from another Office Depot rep. She wrote: "We certainly apologize for the inconvenience that this rebate has caused you. It sounds as though you may have received your unqualified letter by mistake. Unfortunately, human error can occur and a keying mistake can be made. It appears this may have happened in your case. We show you contacted us by phone, and your order was reprocessed. Please allow 3-4 weeks for processing."
I doubt that this can be called a "keying mistake". Rejecting rebate submissions erroneously happens far too often to be accidental. One Planet Feedback member wrote that I must be doing something wrong if four out of four submissions resulted in problems. I assure you that I did not do anything wrong in ANY of the submissions except to believe in the companies' promises to refund part of the purchase price if I followed their directions.
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Excuses
by SumnerMan Sun January 20, 2008 @ 1:29 PM
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Thank you to all the people who responded to my message. In addition to the relief I felt from venting my anger, I got confirmation from fellow consumers. I also got satisfaction from Office Depot as a result of Planet Feedback's contact. I have two updates to report.
First, I called Office Depot's Mail-in Savings Center the next morning and spoke to a customer rep who found my submission materials and discovered the UPC that she said must have been overlooked. She promised to send my check out immediately and apologized profusely for the inconvenience. She said the UPC must have been missed because "it was so small". I sent in the entire side of the box, measuring about 5" x 5". Hardly tiny.
Second, a few hours later, I got a phone call from Office Depot's Customer Service management office who had just heard from Planet Feedback. The woman was very professional and very pleasant and apologetic. She promised to expedite my check. I then told her I had already spoken to a CR who found my UPC and was already processing my rebate. She said she would include that information in her report. She was sympathetic to my concerns and gave me her name and direct phone number and asked me to call her in the future if I have any problems. I told her that most customers wouldn't have gone to the lengths I did and even though I would get my rebate, the frustration and time-consuming followup leaves me with a negative feeling toward Office Depot and toward future offers of mail-in rebates from all companies. She was very understanding and I feel my point was heard.
The most positive thing I've gotten from this experience is that speaking up and doing something about a situation you object to is important, productive, and cathartic. Thanks again to Planet Feedback and all you wonderful new friends. I really needed those "atta girl"s.
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Carla
by Gino Sun January 20, 2008 @ 12:36 AM
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by SumnerMan Posted Sat January 19, 2008 @ 7:09 AM
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I believe the rebate documentation that you send is gone over by businesses hired out by places like Office Depot. Anyway, yes, the excuse "a valid UPC was not submitted" is a very common one. I myself have experienced this idiotic excuse more than twice. Thankfully, after sending letters to them, via Planetfeedback, I did get results. I hope you do to. Good letter.
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by ♥Venice♥ Posted Sat January 19, 2008 @ 4:32 AM
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I enjoyed reading your letter for several reasons.
I laughed visualizing a "cyclone-like paper storm". I'm sure it wasn't funny to you at the time, but that was a perfect description of what it must have looked like.
I also loved this question...
"Is the money they make by not fulfilling rebate offers so great that they aren't bothered by the bad feelings they cause toward their company?"
And this statement...
"Sure, those of us who are organized enough and persistent enough will finally get our checks but the bad feelings will last a long time."
And this...
"You only know about the money you save by invalidating rebate requests but you'll never know how much business you lose because of consumers as angry as I am."
If you sent this letter to my company (if I had one), it would definitely make me stop and think. Ill will is something most people can't get over and hold on to forever. That's not the feeling I would want my customers to have.
I think this is a perfect letter.
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Ive never had any problems with rebates. Since you have had 4 problems maybe you are doing something wrong....just a guess.
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Same here
by koz Fri January 18, 2008 @ 9:58 PM
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Good letter. I'm so bad about rebates (I KNOW I won't get around to doing all the necessary work to send them in), so I never count on the rebate dollar amount when I'm considering a purchase. But for someone like you, who does do the work, it's worth it.
I think of these rebates like health insurance: Health insurance companies often will reject claims, knowing that x% of people won't fight back. Same with rebates.
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by donno Posted Thu January 17, 2008 @ 11:10 PM
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This is a good letter Carla. Rebates are notoriously hard to claim. The internet is riddled with complaints about them. I like your suggestion that they stop offering them if they aren't going to honor them. I, like you, will not be a repeat customer of establishments that don't back up their advertised rebates. There are two companies on my list so far.
Sadly, I think companies will continue to offer them for a simple reason: they count on a large number of people getting lured into buying, and then not following though on properly submitting them. That brings a lot of revenue into the company. Then there are the people who properly submit a rebate, but don't follow up in the case of non-payment.
Honest people like us, who follow all the rules of the rebate, are treated with callous disregard, IMO. It is as if they are used to taking advantage of everyone, so why care when someone calls? Tell them they didn't send something and make them do it again. Then you have to go find a fax or send another copy. It is a racket, so a lot of consumers take the attitude "I'd buy this even if I don't get the rebate." Then you are pleasantly surprised if it comes, and not bitter like us when it doesn't.
I hope you end up getting what you are due.
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