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Outback Steakhouse, Don't Comeback Steakhouse
Posted Wed April 2, 2008 2:16 pm, by Thomas C. written to Outback Steakhouse
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My wife and I went out to dinner on 3-28-08, we decided to go to Outback Steakhouse in Ontario, California. We gave the woman at the door our name and told her two in our party, she wrote down the info, gave us a pager type thing and we sat outside. I noticed three other couples doing the samething after us, along with some bigger groups. I noticed after twenty minutes the couple next to us, their pager thing went off, then the two other couples went off as well, minehadn't gone off yet. I went in and asked the woman why other couple who came in after me are being seated before me. She told me that they have two lists and they were tring to finish the other list first and then they would get to her list. I was very upset, and told her that was not right, I handed the pager thing back to her and went to another steakhouse in the area and we had a great dinner.
I feel the woman at the door needs a refresher course on who pays her paycheck, it is the customers. If she keeps upsetting customers you won't have a steakhouse anymore. I have not been to a Outback for many years because of a bad experience and this doesn't help.
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by Daynaleigh Posted Fri February 3, 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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We ate at the Outback in Hendersonville, NC and had bad service. The manager came out and introduced herself as Liane Fisher.When we told her we had waited a long time for our food and were given bad service she told us that they were busy and we would just have to ''get over it''..She was rude and unprofessional.We asked to see another manager and she told us that as far as we were concerned SHE was the only manager!!We were so upset and told her that we would NEVER come back, she replied with ''We didn't want your business anyhow -good riddance!"
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by doutbacker Posted Thu November 3, 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Anyone here seen the movie "Waiting"? Don't be a dick. Things happen. Deal.
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by Tabs Posted Wed September 21, 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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I am sorry that happened. I work at Outback in East Greenwich RI and we are a great restaraunt. The managers are wonderful and really care about hospitality and their guests. I love being a server and 9 times out of 10 the guests love me and love our restaurant too. I have a blast working there and we really do care about our employees and we always, ALWAYS get a manager if something is wrong. I am sorry you had a bad experience, come to RI and see how you feel :-)
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by Mike A. Posted Fri January 9, 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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I worked at outback as a server, and there SHOULD have only been one list. So you fucking moron servers need to get your shit straight. The guy was complaining that people who arrived AFTER him, were going BEFORE him. and that is not right. I dont give a flying fuck if you make less than 3 dollars an hour, I did too when I worked there and that doesnt mean you get to be a lazy stupid shit. I actually dont ever go to Outback anymore because how shitty the food preps and managers are. I worked for Wan Kim in New Bern NC and he was the mother fucking man. He demanded quality out of his people and the rest of you goons down here in FL cant keep hair out of the frickin food. Dirty tables. Empty Ketchup bottles. Fuckin lazy ass bussers and retarded servers. Can I get a presentation? Uhhhh whats that?
Whats in your soup? uhhh I dunno, cheese?
Bottom line: If they have a shit manager, they have shit people because workers are a direct result of shitty managment. You can basically give up on the hostesess, their a bunch of high school retards. They spend all their time flirting with bussboys and servers. I think 90% of the ones I worked with had an IQ of like 5. They were nice though.
You guys piss me off, the customer is always right. So suck a cock.
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by jayme Posted Mon December 8, 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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It is so entertaining to me to hear a person bitch and complain about something that is so simple. Call ahead!! Just because you are a customer doesn't mean that you are in anyway shape or form entitled to special treatment above any other. I am a server at an Outback Steakhouse and our jobs are not complicated but they are mentally stressful. Especially when the general public holds us personally responsible for something that 9 times out of 10 is beyond our control. I have read several of these posts and I will re-iterate a point that has been mentioned several times. We all make 2.13/hr on average and depend on your tips and sales. How about instead of bitching about hostesses lets turn our attention back at you! You're also the type of person that sits in a table for hours on end and then leaves a less than stellar tip. You're the type that feels empowered somehow by belittling wait staff and hostesses and people that you view in a lower station than yourself and your wife. Maybe that hostess didn't handle your situation with the greatest decorum, however I agree with several other posts here in that you need to get over it. She was busy, and your perception of the events may have been skewed. The people that were seated ahead of you likely called ahead. But I have swayed from my central point. We are so tired of you and your wife. We are tired of you harassing us when you're not seated or your food doesn't arrive in the time YOU have deemed appropriate. I have had enough of smiling and gritting my teeth while dealing with some of the rudest, most uneducated, and social inept people I've ever run across. I have been working for Outback for 7 years to finance my education and in that time I have witnessed some of the most horrendous crimes against my fellow man and myself. If someone spoke to me as I have been spoken to while waiting on these types of people, (you and your wife), I would likely cause you bodily harm, but given that I am in uniform and at work you seem to think you may speak to us in any manner you like. WE ARE PEOPLE TOO!! Just trying to do our jobs, pay our bills, and hang on to some shred of dignity. I am willing to wager that you and your wife wouldn't last 5 minutes under the strain of a nasty table. So the next time you start writing web posts about how horribly you were treated and how you had to scream at the hostess and storm out maybe you should stop and think about what you're saying and maybe, just maybe...how ignorant it make you sound. Sir, I hope you and your wife never come back to Outback, certainly not mine. The wait staff of your local restaurant should buy that hostess a drink after their next shift for keeping you out of their tables. Trust me, she did everyone involved a favor. Good day sir.
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by Leghuise N. Posted Fri September 5, 2008 @ 12:22 PM
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Yes, its called a 'call ahead' list and as a hostess at Outback as well we are NOT obligated to divulge this info to you unless you specifically asked why. Stop taking your impatience out on us.Your wait time is an ESTIMATE, we have NO control over how long people stay at their table. Have you ever just sat and talked after dinner with friends at the table? Or perhaps just take your damn sweet time eating? Then you are the ones that are holding up other peoples dining experience. And on top of that you're probably the ones that wont take the table we offer to you. Just because another table is open DOES NOT mean you can have it. Either theres plans for that table or the server has gone home already. WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR YOU TO BE PICKY. We have servers and managers breathing down our necks we dont need to deal with your bs as well because you want to sit by a window or want to sit in a booth instead. Its really easy to pick up the phone a couple hours ahead and let us know your coming. If your incapable of picking up a phone then your just going to have to wait like everybody else.
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by sambula Posted Fri August 15, 2008 @ 3:15 AM
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I am a hostess at Outback Steakhouse and quite frankly, you and your wife are the type of customers who make my job difficult. First of all, If you decide to go out to dinner on a Friday night, be prepared to wait. If you were smart enough you would have just called ahead! Second, if you're not a patient person, you shouldn't be dining at a sit-down restaurant anyway. Go to McDonald's if you're looking for speedy service.
When we go on a wait, we start a list and we hand out pagers if necessary. We write everyone's name down in the order in which they came in. There's no special treatment or discrimination--it IS first come, first serve. If the hostess told you there were two lists, she wasn't lying. As a host, I try my best to seat people as quickly as possible; not only for the customers' convenience, but also to keep the servers off my back. They constantly bitch and moan about not having enough tables, having too many tables, or hell, pretty much everything. It gets a tad irritating. So why would a host just decide to arbitrarily seat parties? For kicks? 'Cause it's really fun to have grumpy, "starving" customers giving us crap while servers breathe down our necks.
Yes, a hosting job isn't difficult by any means, but it kind of wears on me when people like you and your wife can't wait more than 20 minutes on a busy Friday night without pitching a hissy fit and blaming us for your inconvenience.
Two words: Grow up.
You need to wake up and realize, despite the fact that as a customer you deserve a certain level of respect, that we are just human. As much as we value our customers and want to make your wait as comfortable and speedy as possible, we can't pull some magic trick and clear a table for you. You're just going to have to wait in line like everybody else. Come on, you probably learned that in elementary school.
And a question... how did this host "upset" customers? Granted, you were upset, but that seems to have been a product of your impatience. Was she outright rude? Did she verbally insult you? Frankly it seems as though it wasn't the employee's wrong doing, but your own childish attitude towards having to wait in line.
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by Mr. Bob Posted Fri June 20, 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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I have never worked at a restaurant in my life AND spent many years with a lady who did.
These employees are paid LESS than $3 per hour! The "paycheck" they receive is typically ZERO dollars. The government is only concerned about collecting TAXES based upon gross sales and ESTIMATED tips received.
As far as who gets seated first: My lady and I will typically get on the waiting list at a restaurant and then LEAVE, returning shortly before or after our designated time. That does not mean we will be sat instantly upon return, we may however walk in "before you' because we have already been there and are simply returning.
These host/hostess, servers, etc. are NOT stupid people. If you are a semi-frequent customer and make at least a half-hearted attempt to treat them well, they will take very, very good care of you.
Just my thoughts....
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by Andrew Y. Posted Sun May 11, 2008 @ 3:33 PM
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Well Thomas, you honestly don't know anything about the employee pay at Outback Steakhouse then. Hosts, Servers, and Bussers are all payed the absolute minimum tipped wage; as in 2.43 dollars an hour (or at least hear in Jacksonville NC it is.) The true pay hosts and bussers get is reflected off the total sales of the night. Hosts, bussers, and barstaff are tipped out at the end of the night 3% of the total sales and then that 3% is divided amongst the three positions which may mean dividing the sales between 7 and 11 employees generally. This then turns into earning about 30 dollars after working about 6 hours, dealing impatient customers as yourself throughout the night.
Now I must admit, it was a serious "no no" that your host performed towards getting you and your wife sat. Its common sense that seating should be first come first server, with the exception to differing party size. I believe you should know as well that restaurants, as well as people, differ from place to place. Not every Outback is ran the same and not every host at an Outback Steakhouse makes such critical errors.
But to get back to my point, assuming that you and your wife would have spent somewhere close to 50 dollars that evening on your meal; your small party wasn't even worth a quarter to the hostess who collected your pager.
The point of all this is that the employees at Outback are paid fairly poor for their efforts. The hosts paid around 7 dollars an hour for dealing with and seating parties all day, the bussers paid the exact same for cleaning all the food off the every table in the restaurant plus an array of other duties, the servers are fairly well off earning around a hundred dollars on busy nights although many parties do not tip even ten percent of their bill, and finally the management (or at least assistant managers that I'm aware of) are paid hourly at a rate one would deem unbearable to live off of alone, and for this measly pay rate the assistant managers have to please all upset customers and make sure food is ran out on time and correctly, as to not upset anyone dining in the restaurant.
So the next time you decide to end off some little rant like you did, next time think about the people who work where you eat and don't be so disrespectful as to assume that these people who gave you such terrible service rely on your insignificant 18 cent payout. We provide a service to you; we feed you and attempt to deliver a decent atmosphere in the process, you do not feed us.
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by mstendardo1 Posted Mon April 7, 2008 @ 11:19 PM
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You were at Outback, not Mortons. You get what you pay for.
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by Outta Here Posted Fri April 4, 2008 @ 11:57 AM
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We had the same bad experience as outlined here - we waited... and waited... and waited just a ridiculous and inordinate amount of time to get seated on a Friday night. Meanwhile, people were walking in off the street (maybe these people knew the hostess or called them from the parking lot for this so-called "call ahead" seating? maybe we should have wised up and called them ourselves from the front lobby in order to actually get SEATED - ?!?) -- and these new-walk-in-the-door people were all being quickly and immediately seated -- the hostess was all smiles to them -- new people who came in long after us.
The endless wait times are beyond absolutely ridiculous! Nobody even is polite or acknowledges that you've been waiting there forever and a day either.
We will NEVER, EVER go back to Outback Steakhouse again either!!!!
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by Rhet C. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 6:54 PM
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Support locally owned, independent restuarants whenever you can. National chains don't care, have lower quality food, and their service is usually never very high.
Local restaurants are the things that give our local communities charm. And the food is usually exceptional compared to the big chains and with a reservation you don't have to wait too long.
Good that you left for another eatery. I hope it was local.
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I agree
by mrsdkm Fri April 4, 2008 @ 3:45 PM
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 3:16 PM
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I think you need a refresher course on the pay structure in a restaurant. The customer pays the server, via the tips. Other employees, such as the cooks, managers, and hosts/hostesses, are paid by the corporation. Bussers are paid by the servers, in the form of tip sharing. Sometimes tips are shared with hostesses as well, but that is in addition to their regular salary and based on the sales of the servers. Most corporate chains don't have tipouts to the hosts/hostesses anyway, so Outback wouldn't fall into this category.
So, Mr. High-and-mighty, you really haven't paid a cent of this hostess's paycheck.
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You don't pay her paycheque the company does. And while yes technically you buying food there pays the company and they pay the salary, and you may suplement with a gratuity you don't driectly pay her salary.
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That would frustrate me as well.
Perhaps the other list was the "Call Ahead Seating" list? If it was, the hostess should have communicated that to you rather then lead you to believe that they were not seating by what time the customers arrived.
If you dont hear back from Outback, (some companies do not accept PFB letters for some reason) I would contact the manager of this location, to at least give him a heads up. He might not even know whats going on.
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by Anonymous A. Posted Thu April 3, 2008 @ 6:48 AM
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You need to rewind what you said. You quoted "...and then they would get to her list". "They" perhaps means the restaurant itself? How is this then the woman's fault?Why should she be reprimanded if this is the restaurant's choice that she has no control over?
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First Off!
by smokinaces Thu April 3, 2008 @ 8:04 AM
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by T. C. Posted Wed April 2, 2008 @ 11:11 PM
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I agree with you. In my opinion they should either take reservations for all customers or do away with it completely.
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by Knuckles Posted Wed April 2, 2008 @ 11:00 PM
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I would have been upset about this also.
If this had happened to me, I would have inquired about why there were two lists. Maybe one was a call ahead list, but she shouldn't have simply said "we are working off two lists." That leaves the impression that things are being done in a half-baked fashion, when in fact they may (hopefully are) be more organized.
I don't blame you for walking out, and I hope they let the employees know that customers should be better informed.
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by ~Fiƒi-la-ƒlea~ Posted Wed April 2, 2008 @ 8:32 PM
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I have to agree with the others that a little more communication could have gone a long way in saving this evening for you. When I first read it, I was thinking that the other list had something to do with party size, small tables vs larger ones.
I remember in Disney when we went, we had to make reservations weeks in advance though. People were coming in making reservations on the spot, and waiting hours to get in, frustrated. So there were two lists there for most of the restaurants.
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by SusanB Posted Wed April 2, 2008 @ 8:31 PM
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It appears there was a call ahead seating list and a walk-in list and the hostess was seating those on the call ahead list first. The OP should have been informed that those that had called ahead would be seated first and the approximate wait time he should expect. Communication is the key here and it sounds like Outback failed miserably on this one.
If I'm correct in my assumption about the two lists, then I feel that the OP should receive two free meals.
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I'm hoping that the people who got seated were on the call-ahead seating list or something, because that employee's explanation wouldn't cut it for me. It just doesn't make any sense. If two different employees mistakenly kept separate lists of people waiting to be seated, then a simple, "I'm so sorry, I didn't realize another list had been started" could have avoided hard feelings Then heck, offer a free appetizer or a couple of beverages to appease someone who's angry and hungry.
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What is wrong with a customer "storming out" after waiting to be seated, seeing others being seated before him and getting a lousy reason/excuse from the hostess as to why this was occurring?
In fact, why in the world should that customer bear any responsibility for helping the restaurant "make it right" by asking for the manager? Sure, he could have asked for the manager and waited for however long it took for the manager to show up yet it's entirely possible this customer had decided he'd wasted enough time at this restaurant. Why should he be criticized for making that decision?
Why should the customer be criticized for mentioning that he had a previous bad experience? No one lives in a vacuum - our decisions are always colored by previous experiences (or lack thereof) and clearly this customer is disappointed because his experiences at Outback appear to less than satisfactory...isn't that something Outback should know?
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by Lisa H. Posted Wed April 2, 2008 @ 4:09 PM
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I would have been upset also, but I think you'd have gotten further with making your point if you had dealt with it then and there. I would have asked her to explain why there were two lists, and why they were working through them differently. I would have also asked to see the manager to explain why I was leaving. Otherwise it's too easy to just shrug you off as an unreasonable customer. Not saying you were being that, but I can see where the hostess could feel that way.
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