hahahaha! i remember this one... XD

IT'S ALIVE!!!

This letter will never die :)

What happened when you spoke to the retail manager?

:)

Most Debated Letter.

Way to go, Starlight.

*bump*

>:)

thats sad because children are are future

You and your bratty kids making loud noises in a small dressing room
and they asked you to be quiet and be considerate to others?

Oh the humanity!

Why is thi still going........

Just for Poops and Giggles...if this was written today...Kids wouldn't
be wanted at Macy's!

What tha!?! Not again! *lol*

After meeting your kids...
I'd be jumping for joy Danny Jr wasnt crying about something! LOL.

5 words for ya
"Can mommy have another baby?"

:0)

If your children are not 'wanted' and their musical 'talents' are not
appreciated at Kaufman's then I need to find the closest location and
shop there religiously. Lady, not everyone is interested in listening
to a couple of little brats screech some dumb kid song. I would have
complained too.

I vote that we remove this letter from the top 20.

Before that happens, though, I would like to put my two cents in.

If the woman wasn't being overly loud and obnoxious, I see no problem
in the manner that she occupied her children, and the sales associate
could have been more tactful in speaking to her. Threatening to call
security was a bit overboard. Her children were not running around the
store and pulling things off shelves. They were not making a mess.
They were not a danger to themselves or anyone in the store.

I usually agree with most of the comments on PFB. I work in a
restaurant and there is nothing more I hate than parents who prefer to
let their children "express themselves" by screaming, running around,
and throwing food. But honestly, everyone is acting like people don't
have any right to ever have their children in public. Sometimes
parents have to take their kids on errands, shopping, etc...and
sometimes it's just as unpleasant for the parent as it is for other
patrons. I hate those chaotic days when I have to drag my son to the
store or bank or DVM. It makes him cranky and it makes me cranky, too.
All of you act like parents expect the world to revolve around them
and their kids, but it really seems like all of you expect the world
to revolve around you by not being "inconvienced" by the mere presence
of children. Get over yourselves.

As a mother of 2, also ages 1 and 2 I completely understand. I would
rather hear a mom and kids singing (quietly if possible) than to hear
two kids yelling and whining. If you are like me you have to take
your children w/ you everywhere and it's not always a picnic to have
to do that. You do what you can to keep them semi quiet. Target is
another store that is not too great. I had both babies secured in a
cart and they wouldn't let me take the cart into the dressing room,
not even the actual stall. I left the cart and the clothes and left
Target. I'm not about to leave my kids or have them running loose in
a dressing room while I am half naked and have to run after them.

oh my god.... this letter is STILL here.... my eyes are starting to
bleed....

*pops another birth control pill so she will never ever ever have this
problem*

I'll bet you are one of those parents who is always shoving a stroller
into the back of my legs when I'm walking ahead of you. STOP IT.

You, as an adult and parent, should have known better. I mean, you
weren't at the park or McDonald's playland. I can certainly understand
why there were complaints.

Something you just don't seem to understand - a store is NOT a public
place. It is privately owned. It is private property. It is not
public property. Public property is owned by a town, state or country
and is allotted for the use of the public.

That cleared up, the employee was entirely in line to tell you to clam
up, because you don't just get to act any way you want to on private
property. Stores have the right to refuse any service to anyone for
any reason, period. Since a store is private property, the store
owner/management has the ability to limit the behavior of their
customers in any way, shape or form. If they don't want people
dancing and singing silly songs in their dressing rooms, they are
completely within their rights to put a stop to it, and if the person
being told to stop doesn't comply, they have every right to call
security.

If you want to dance and sing silly songs, do it on public property,
like a park. Not on someone's private property.

I own a shop, and know the laws. A shop owner or store owner can
limit the behavior that goes on in their private property in any way
they see fit, and they can throw out or exclude anyone they want to
exclude - just as you can throw anyone out of your home, or exclude
them from entering in the first place. Ever see the sign "we retain
the right to refuse service to anyone"? That's perfectly legal,
because businesses are private property.

So you, and everyone here who takes your side, are way out of line. A
store has to provide a safe environment, and there are certain other
guidelines that they must meet by law, such as carrying liability
insurance, but allowing customers to do any thing they please, be it
breastfeeding in a dressing room or singing silly songs and dancing,
is not something that stores are required to do.

Wake up and smell the roses. The world is not your "public property"
where you can do whatever you want - and setting an example for your
kids where you allow them to indulge in inappropriate behavior on
someone else's private property is really a bit much.

This is my favorite letter ever! It puts a smile on my face everytime
I read it and see the comments!

Don't let this ever fall out of the Top 20! It is such an inspiration
(for laughter, that is!)

:-)

In my quest to keep these old letters in the top 20 forever (out of
love and respect for MA Loper) ;) I think I'll just start posting
Whitesnake lyrics to them.

Who knows where the cold wind blows
I ask my friends but nobody knows
Who am I to believe in love
oh, oh, love ain't no stranger...

See how pleasant that can be? ;)

Thats rude....I dont have kids....and as long as I dont hear screaming
and crying that the parents are not trying to handle, I really dont
care thats why its called PUBLIC, you interact with people in PUBLIC,
and the PUBLIC makes noise, so if you really dont like listening to
peoples kids or people, shop online! Besides that wow I was reading
through this and it got pretty petty.......

I can see both points of view, but also have to laugh cause all of you
"childless" people commenting on this should realize that a lot of you
will probably have your own "brats" someday and while you may say now
that you would never do something like that in a public place, when
you have kids...things change. Nothing annoys me more than hearing a
mother screaming at her kids, so at least this mother was only
entertaining them. While I may have eventually gotten annoyed by the
singing, it probably was only going to last a few minutes. We parents
are not always able to leave the kids at home when we shop and believe
me when I say that some of us will do anything to keep them
entertained.

After reading some of the back and forth on this letter, I have lost
what respect I once had for four individuals: The OP, plus three
others. Shameful!

People keep mentioning they don't like kids and shouldn't have to
listen to them. Well, there are a lot of things I don't like to deal
with when shopping either - such as people who don't realize that they
can take the other end of their Nextel call off of speakerphone so at
least everyone is only subjected to half of a conversation, not a
whole one...but, I digress. Unless they were screaming their songs, I
think other customers should just shut up and deal with it. Yes, maybe
it's annoying, but really...how long are you in a dressing room? Five
minutes at the most usually. Not an obscenely long time, and not to
mention the fact that if some customers are getting annoyed that in a
store like Kaufmann's there are plenty of other dressing rooms they
could visit. Back to the OP's point of being threatened with security,
unless she was belligerent when asked to quiet down, I think that was
totally uncalled for.

Okay. Children and NOT wanted at Kaufman's; deal with it.