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Not giving me work hours
Posted Mon June 29, 2009 10:05 pm, by Tom M. written to PetsMART
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I have been employed with Petsmart since February of last year. Since the beginning of the new year, the manager has not been giving me steady work hours. I only worked a total of 8 times this year!
I would go weeks at a time without a work schedule the last time they scheduled me was almost two weeks ago. The manager claims that business is slow, which can't be true because he has been hiring new people in the past couple of months, most recently last week. How are they able to hire people if business is so bad? I was told that he was happy with how I was doing so that can't be the reason. All I know is that I'm the only one he is doing this to and he is trying to get me to quit. I can't quit because I can't find another job and no one will help me with that. I can't go to corporate, I know they won't help me. I need hours, I can't survive without an income. He's making my life a living Hell and I just supposed to take it. I don't know what to do, I can't live this way. I need help but can't get it.
I doubt anyone will help me.
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Who told you that he was happy with your work? Did this come directly from this manager or through a third party? If it came directly from this manager then you should meet with him again and inform him that you cannot understand why, if he is happy with the way you perform your job he cannot give you more hours.
"He's making my life a living Hell and I just supposed to take it." You have to take it unless you do something to make it stop. You have options - go to the district/general manager and see if you can get some resolution.
Also with the time you have when not working, get more applications out there to other stores. You have work experince and may get lucky and find someplace that needs someone for the hours you want.
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by Mike Z. Posted Wed July 1, 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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If you are not getting hours, there is probably a reason. I managed retail for 5 years, and this is how you weed out the bad apples. Give them little to no hours and hope they quit. Trust me, if you were a great employee, you would be making it regularly on the schedule.
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Milton in Office Space.
It seems like the manager is trying to give you a hint that he does not want you to work there anymore by not scheduling you for any hours. He may say he thinks you do a good job, but if that was true, why is he hiring staff while you don't get any hours? I feel he is being very passive/aggressive, and can't deal with any confrontation apparently. You deserve an answer either way. Since the store manager appears to be the problem, find out who the HR rep or the district manager is for your area and contact them. I'd also start looking for a new job, even in this economy some places are hiring.
Good Luck!
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I agree
by Tom M. Tue June 30, 2009 @ 2:23 PM
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Maybe I'm
by April S. Mon July 6, 2009 @ 2:00 PM
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by calm Posted Tue June 30, 2009 @ 2:02 PM
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I would bet that he's not happy with your performance or he's not happy with your availability or he's not happy with your hourly wage.
If he's hiring new people at significantly lower rates than he pays you, then they're getting the hours because he can have more workers for the same amount of money. That really upsets me, because it works to penalize good workers who earn wages, but there it is. But if you think that's the reason, it might make sense to go ask him whether you can take a pay cut and get back on the schedule.
If that's not the reason, revisit your availability. Does he know you'll show up for any shift he gives you, or at least just about any shift? If not, why not? What things can you honestly not actually miss (college classes, visitation with your kids, etc.) and what things can you tell him will no longer be obstacles to your going to work?
If that's not the reason either, then it doesn't matter what you were told: you really need to go speak to him about your performance. Tell him that you've only worked 8 times in the first six months of this year and ask him what you need to show him in order to get more hours.
Then do whatever it is. You may only get one chance to show him (and you may not get any chances to show him, but at least it will be valuable information for your next job), so it is imperative that you use the information to the best of your ability.
He may think you ought to (or *do*) know what you're doing wrong, or he may think he's already tried to give you feedback and you haven't taken it, or he just may not like telling people that they aren't doing well. But if he is not telling you what you need to improve or if you are not understanding what he's telling you, then you're probably not going to start measuring up, and that means you're not going to start getting more shifts. So you need to ask. You can also talk to people who are more successful at similar jobs (your coworkers who are getting more hours or people in other retail jobs) about how your shifts go -- in detail -- and see what feedback they can give you, but you really need to try talking with the boss, even if only because if you're getting 16 shifts a year he probably won't notice any improvements.
It's not a matter of people helping you out; it's a matter of you making it clear to your boss that giving you shifts will help *him* out.
When I worked retail -- and especially when I worked retail management and used to write work schedules -- there were two kinds of employees. There were employees who saw shifts as something they earned and who put a lot of effort into seeing what sorts of skills managers were looking for and mastering those skills, and who consequently got a lot of shifts, and there were employees who saw shifts as something that ought to be distributed evenly among workers. That latter group really failed to grasp the resentment their coworkers had at being asked to do two people's work while they just stood around doing very little. They failed to grasp the frustration their supervisors had at being expected to get things done when there were people scheduled who either could not or would not do those things. And they failed to grasp why they got as few shifts as possible. (The people who got the "business is slow" speech where I worked were not getting shifts because the labor budget didn't allow any more than the bare minimum number of workers on the sales floor, and that meant that there was nobody to give them the kind of intense supervision they seemed to need.)
Now, you may be in that former group; it happens all the time that people misjudge other people, and your manager may be misjudging you (which is a problem you will need to find a way to correct). But I don't know you at all, and to me this letter comes off as if you're in the latter group. Your manager doesn't care very much that you need shifts. He cares that he needs workers. And therefore you should be spending less time telling him that you need shifts and more time telling (and, more importantly, showing, every time you get the opportunity) him that you are the kind of worker he needs.
Meanwhile, keep dressing professionally and going 'round to every store you can get to with whatever transportation you have and asking whether you can fill out applications. If nothing else, maybe in September, when some of their employees leave for college and they're starting to think about whether they're hiring extra workers for Christmas, your persistence will pay off -- and you will get a fresh start and a chance to impress a manager right off the bat. Your manager is doing you a favor here, because it's easier to get a job when you have a job, and you can honestly claim to have a job, even if it is not a job that meets your needs.
Good luck.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue June 30, 2009 @ 1:20 PM
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"I can't quit because I can't find another job and no one will help me with that."
Despite the economy, I encourage you not to assume that you can't find another job. You may be right, but how will you know if you don't try? And try hard.
I suggest that you not quit, but keep looking for another job. Given that you're not getting hours at your current job, this at least gives you time to look for another job.
I notice you say "and no one will help with that." It sounds like you're expecting that someone else will help you find a job. It is true that talking to people you know ("do you know if there any openings where you work?") can be very helpful. And meeting new people can help, too. But don't assume that you need someone else to "help" to get a job.
Apply for anything and everything. If your area is retail stock, go to a big shopping center and walk into each and every store and ask for a job application. Even if they don't have a current opening, fill out an application if they will give you one. If the manager is there, make sure to thank the manager for considering you.
I appreciate that it can be frustrating and tiring to fill out dozens of applications that don't turn up anything. But your odds of landing something are going to improve the more applications you submit.
None of this is to say that you should avoid talking to PetSmart HR. While it's likely true that your manager isn't required to give you hours, if there is a disparity between what you're receiving and what others are receiving, they're going to want to know why. At the very least, this will force your manager to explain.
But, no matter what happens, it's worth your time to look elsewhere. And, again, while networking with other people is always a great way to get "in," you don't absolutely need other people to help you get a job.
Above all, do not get discouraged. You're in a dire situation, but working to solve the problem (by applying for as many jobs as you possibly can) is a good way to fight the feeling of helplessness. In other words, even if no one helps you, at least you are working to help yourself.
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by Donno Posted Tue June 30, 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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I'm trying to wrap my arms around this. This is one day or a partial day once every three and a half weeks.
If this is your only job, I have no idea how you are surviving. I have never heard of a retail part time job where you go in less than once a week.
What was the most you worked at this job?
It sounds like it is time to look for a new job, as completely hideous a prospect as that is in this economy.
My local pet store always seems to have tons of employees and few customers. I was in a Petco twice in the past few months, and it was even worse. There were no customers except myself in the store. The lone cashier looked like she was going to die of boredom.
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