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Posted Thu July 9, 2009 2:00 am, by temple r. written to Pizza Hut, Inc.

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My husband and I went to Pizza Hut in Centralia Washington. There was a very tall young black man serving people. I was appalled to see how low his pants were sagging. Then I watched as every 10 minutes he had to pull his pants up 4-5 time each 10 mins to be able to work. Who wants a servicer pulling his pants up while servicing?? Well, I told the young man who came to us that this was a family place and how gang banging clothing styles did not have a place in a restuarant by an employee. I told him I was 16 years in restaurants and even spent the last two years evaluating mgrs. and staff. I told him the young man needed to wear appropriate pants or be fired.

The next thing I knew, the word was out. Young people behind the counter were wearing their hats to side and backwards.

Pizza Hut needs to have zero policy for gang banging clothing and gestures. They need to remember that they are a family restaurant. Staff need to be told that if they can't dress appropriately and without changing hats as they are intended to be worn then they need to be looking elsewhere for employment. There are many people looking for jobs in these hard times who will not wear sagging pats and hats to side or backwards.


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by dulynoted (aka duttycalls) Posted Sun July 12, 2009 @ 5:09 PM

With your having been in the restaurant business I am a bit perplexed
as to why did not direct this issue to the manager on duty. I mean
this is one of managements tasks - to speak to their staff if there is
an issue.

Don't get me wrong...I totally agree that saggy pants have no business
being worn in public let alone a restuarant. But again, I feel you
should have addressed the manager directly. All this employee did was
go back and tell his co-workers who basically flipped you off by
turning their hats around and telling you they do not care.

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by fairywithfangs Posted Fri July 10, 2009 @ 4:29 PM

I don't think you could have picked a worse way to try and get your
point across.

First, you know, as well I as I know...and most people working in the
resturant, that anyone coming in to do a "review" would never. ever.
let that be known. You might have worked doing this, but you weren't
there to do any reviews that evening. Were you just trying to make
yourself sound important? I am sure that is how it came across to the
wait staff. Of course they were going to mess with you at that point.
You then accused him of being a gang memeber. Klassy. You managed to
add fuel to the fire while being offensive.

For someone that claims to have 16 years reviewing resturants, you
obviously have no idea how to handle these types of situations.

I do agree that workers should dress for work. However, the way you
went about it was just as bad as the way the server was dressed.

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I love this response! n/t by RedheadwGlasses Fri July 10, 2009 @ 11:06 PM


by batmoody Posted Fri July 10, 2009 @ 12:03 PM

This definately should have been brought up to a manager if it upset
you that much.

Unless your job was to evaluate managers and staff at Pizza Hut this
night, you have NO RIGHT to demand the employee wear different pants
or be fired.

Especially to another employee!

16 years in resaurants, you should know better.


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by franese Posted Fri July 10, 2009 @ 11:27 AM

Your comment to the employee was inappropriate and he may have
construed it as racist - while I don't like that type of dress, you
should have spoken privately to the manager.

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by Zan Posted Fri July 10, 2009 @ 11:24 AM

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't
know what "gang banging" actually means, so you didn't mean to be as
offensive as you were, not only to the young man in question but to
every employee at the store - hence their united display. That said,
your complaint about the pants is valid, but it would have been a lot
better to bring this up to manager, not the server, and to have done
so in a calm manner without lecturing about your vast experience in
the restaurant business.

I don't really have a problem if they want to wear their hats
backwards or to the side. As long as their hair is sufficiently held
back from my food!

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by Anonymous A. Posted Fri July 10, 2009 @ 3:14 AM

Your whole point and intent is right,and I completely agree with
appropriate dress codes when preparing food; however, your comment to
the employee was rude, offensive, and could actually be considered
harassment. Your lucky he didn't bring a harassment case against you.
Next time, have a better choice in words.

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by PepperElf Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 7:24 PM

I don't disagree with the complaint.

I too would have complained... but NOT about the "gangsta look". Many
people will take complaints like that to be offensive and will react
badly to them.


I personally would have taken the sanitary complaint.

Simply put... The server is constantly pulling up his pants. It's
pretty likely his hands are also touching his undershorts in this
movement. So ... yeah, he's touching his shorts and then serving your
food without washing his hands.

yum.


if you see him doing it again, just call the health board.

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by MA Cunningham Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 4:11 PM

While I agree that the server's style of dress was not appropriate due
to the repeated need to hike his pants back up (would suck if he
tripped carrying someone's pizza, no?)

But I take FAR more offense at the sterotypical description of the
employee - calling him a "gang banger" and saying dress like that had
no place in a "family" restaurant.

IMHO, narrow-minded opinions like this are what has no place in a
family establishment!

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by Jennifer S Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 3:44 PM

Since other's have already pointed out how rude and out of line you
were, I'm just going to point out its highly unlikely that a "bang
banger" would work at Pizza Hut. As as others have said, the act of
wearing one's pants below the buttocks isn't indicative of "gang
banger" clothing. The next time you see what you think is a "gang
banger", less attention to how they wear their pants and more
attention to their tattoo's and what, if any, sports team apparel they
may be wearing. I'm sorry but saggy pants and a hat worn to the side
fits the criteria for several different groups including
skateboarders. And I realize you are in Washington and I am in a gang
infested city in California and we may or may not have the same gangs,
but gangsters typically wear their hats correctly, other than wearing
them a little high on their head with the bill flat and stiff. If you
are so concerned about a gangsters working at Pizza Hut then please
educate yourself on the gangs in your area and what the main
identifiers are.

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by RedheadwGlasses Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 1:54 PM

I find it offensive, and he probably did too, that equated a style of
dress with "gang banging." Rich white kids in the 'burbs dress this
way. Of course, I think it's the dumbest thing ever, but you
*usually* can't judge a kid by how he dresses.

I can see having a dress code for employees, however. I think you
should have voiced your complaint to a manager or supervisor, not to
the kid. That seems rather rude. And to demand he be fired if he
didn't comply with YOUR expectations is just over the top.

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Well Said Red (eom) by Eddie M. Thu July 9, 2009 @ 2:28 PM


I've seen more of my neighbor's son's underwear.. by Harleycat Thu July 9, 2009 @ 4:38 PM


Have you ever seen the movie "Clueless"? by Venice Thu July 9, 2009 @ 5:14 PM


I've seen it.. by Harleycat Thu July 9, 2009 @ 5:45 PM


I would NEVER get that look! by Venice Thu July 9, 2009 @ 6:13 PM

by Donno Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 10:08 AM

I would have loved to have seen this play out.

What in the world is a "gang banging gesture"? I don't want to know
if it is something obscene or involves brutality.

I would think Pizza Hut is happy to have anyone working in its stores,
as long as their private parts are covered.

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by Nate! Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 9:45 AM

Gang banging clothing? Huh? Urbanwear does not necessarily mean you
are a gangbanger. Do you even know what that means? I looked this up
in Urban Dictionary, and I doubt this young man does such a thing just
because his pants are low.

http://tinyurl.com/pwumt
This is the definition I found. Just a caution that UD can be
offensive, but accurately defines American slang.

It sounds like he was making an effort to pull his pants up... did you
consider he forgot his belt? I sometimes bring my work clothes in my
car and change at work.

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by Venice Posted Thu July 9, 2009 @ 2:24 AM

Gang banging clothing?

Good grief.

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