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Red Lobster Has Not Only Lost My Business But Should Compensate Me
Posted Sat January 21, 2006, by karen ann b. written to Red Lobster
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Upon entering the Red Lobster on colonial drive in Orlando Florida, we were greeted by a hostess. We were told there was a 10 to 15 minute wait for a table. We agreed and gave her our name. While we were waiting, we noticed there were many tables vacant, and they were not busy at all. There were other people waiting as well, yet they did not seem upset. I waited until I saw a manager, and I asked him why did we have to wait when there were so many empty table and the restaurant was not busy at all. He said" we are in the middle of a shift change, and I am waiting for my staff to arrive.
This seems a bit rediculus to have one shift leaving when the other is not there. I watched several waitresses leaving the store, and thought this could take forever. We left that store and decided not to wait since the manager admitted they were short handed. We decided to go to another restaurant for dinner.
I would not expect this from a Darden Restaurant. I usually have nothing but great service and food. I should be compensated for my time.
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by cor1963 Posted Tue March 6, 2007 @ 7:15 PM
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I do not work for Red Lobster, but would like to comment on your wait.
Most chain restaurants watch their labor costs very closely. This may be why you saw some servers leaving while a line up was forming. Scheduling is another factor, as most places will base their schedule on previous days business. Then there is the unexpected rush of people that is totally unpredictable. Then there is the staff that is late or dont show up at all, which hurts everyone involved. You cannot schedule to cover all the bases.
I am a manager at a 4 star restaurant in Canada. Last week we scheduled according to the occupancy in the hotel that the restuarant is located. What we didnt expect was multiple tables of 8 and 10 people. A server can only handle so many tables at one time, so as not to impact service. What we did was to let people know at the door that there is a wait. This is standard. It is better to have you wait a short time, then to overload the staff and have all patrons suffer lousy service. This does not happen often and if this has been an on going problem with the restaurant you were at, I would consider brining it to the attention of the GM. Another factor is that most people think that they can run a restaurant better, simply because they eat at them. Not true. You can not run a restaurant from a customers viewpoint and expect success, however you can impliment some of their suggestions to make them happier. The customer is always right...to a limit.
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by Jordan Posted Thu September 28, 2006 @ 7:14 PM
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This is typical, but rediculous. I know this situation first hand. Company policy states that servers are ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THREE TABLES AT ONCE.so while it may look like the restaurant is empty, it isn't. Learn how to be patient and learn that, well, s*** happens.
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by Applejacker Posted Wed January 25, 2006 @ 11:40 AM
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We write letters at this website to point out issues with the companies we deal with, often on a daily basis. We want to make them better, and in the end, we will enjoy better service from them and we will ourselves benefit.
When your throw "compensation" into your letter you invalidated all intent to help improve that business, and merely exposed your primary reason for writing, GREED!
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by Brenny Posted Tue January 24, 2006 @ 10:09 PM
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Even if this wasn't during a shift change, restaurants don't have waiters for EVERY table, especially during slower times. 15 minutes is not a long wait at all. Would you have been happier if they seated you at a table and you had to wait for a server?
You had a somewhat valid complaint up until the compensation request. You didn't spend any money there, you had no food! What do they owe you for!
Reading this letter was a waste of my time, I want to be compensated... LOL!
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by Cass Posted Tue January 24, 2006 @ 7:16 PM
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While I kind of agree that a shift change is a poor excuse for leaving customers waiting, you do have to consider that restaurant servers make their money primarily from tips. So while it may seem better to have the current shift keep working until enough staff from the next shift arrives, from the staff's perspective, they're putting in extra time, but won't make any money from it if a server on the next shift takes over a table in the midst of a meal, and ends up collecting that tip. You don't say what time you were there, but you mention that they weren't at all busy, so I assume it wasn't during lunch or dinner rush. So at least it seems the restaurant tried to change shift during the off hours. 10-15 minutes isn't an excessive wait. Still, I might have taken your side, since you wrote a rational letter explaining your grievance, and I do see how it looked from your perspective. But you lost me with your demand for compensation. Give me a break. You may not have liked their explanation, but they did tell you up front there would be a wait, and you chose not to stay. That was your choice, and they owe you nothing.
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by MattandErin Engle Posted Tue January 24, 2006 @ 5:48 PM
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I don't know about you, but I've been next in the grocery store line when they've put the "closed" sign up for a shift change. They aren't going to make a server stay if they've already done their drop and their shift is over. What part of "shift change" don't you understand?! I agree with the other poster, you would have been upset if they would have sat you with no server and you upset because you were made to wait.
To demand compensation for your time is ridiculous!
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by dragonflygrrl Posted Mon January 23, 2006 @ 6:32 PM
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I guess I just don't see what you should be compensated for. You went to a restaurant, got told there would be a wait, and there was. You got upset that there weren't enough waitstaff, and you went somewhere else. I guess I don't see the big deal here. People call in sick. People go on and off their shifts. Life goes on. How much exactly is your time worth that an extra 10 or 15 minutes needs to be compensated?
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by mnehr Posted Mon January 23, 2006 @ 12:03 PM
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Complaint? Managing a resturant is a delecate balance. If they don't have the staff at the moment you want to sit, no matter how many tables appear to be open, then we would be seeing a complaint letter from you on how long it took for someone to wait on you..
You completely lost any chance of the company even responding with your request for compensation. Most companies realize that there is an entire segment of people who complain just for the 'perks' and they'll file you in that group.
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by Giselle Posted Mon January 23, 2006 @ 10:21 AM
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I agree with previous posters that the excuse "shift change" is totally unacceptable. I would prefer to hear the truth, i.e. 3 employee called in sick and the restaurant is waiting on some employees who were called in on an emergency basis to get there. I dine out at least 10 times a week and have for many, many years. NEVER have I encountered a "shift change" that caused people to have to stand around the waiting and wait to be seated. There have been times when a manager or employee said "please bear with us, we are sorry, but we have an unusually high number of people out due to sickness/family emergencies, etc"...Well no problem, I think.
Your letter fails to state how long you waited, yet you are asking for compensation. Heck, you did not even include such vitals as date of incident, time of date, who you spoke with, etc. I am noticing a large number of letters like that here at PF lately. The internet is chock full of websites that provide good information on how to write valid complaint letters that get results. Think about that the next time you write a letter.
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by crewboy Posted Mon January 23, 2006 @ 9:55 AM
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You may or may not have a valid complaint here. You don't specify what time of day it was when you went in to the restaurant, and you didn't say whether or not your wait time went past the 10-15 minutes that you were promised.
The manager could have meant a couple of different things by "shift change". Perhaps the day shift was leaving and the night shift was coming in. If so, I could understand why it would take a few minutes. The people coming in had to clock in, put on aprons, check their work assignment, etc. This can take a few minutes and that is not unreasonable, especially if you didn't have to wait past the promised amount of time.
Or, if you came in right before the peak time, perhaps there was a lot more staff scheduled to start in a few minutes. If this was the case, the manager should have explained that to you of course. Please remember that the same labor laws apply to these people's jobs as to your job. The manager cannot force anyone to stay late or start early on the spot.
If this "shift change" resulted in you waiting more than the promised 10-15 minutes, then I understand. But if not, then your complaint is not valid. Although the manager could have seated everyone and brought them menus and drinks to make it more pleasant.
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by Mr. Mafia Posted Mon January 23, 2006 @ 12:44 AM
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I agree with you that this is not good service, but however, you should not get any money. You did not spend a dime in their restaurat and yet you want money from them. A 10 to 15 minute wait is not a long time, but to wait 10 or 15 minutes because of poor scheduling is bad customer service.
One more thing you mentioned that you have had good service from a Darden restaurant. Well why don't you write about your good experience. People are so quick to complain when they get bad service, yet when they get good service they keep quiet, which is kind of sad. You should take some time out of your life to write about the other restaurant you went to. If you have the time to write a complaint, you certainly have the time to write a compliment.
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The other people were mature enough to wait patiently. Why could you not wait. Also why do you want money back if you did not eat anything there. It's not like you want money back because the food was horrible, or the waiter spit in your food.
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by EricMV Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 4:06 PM
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"Shift change" is one of the worst excuses for poor service, since it is a completely predictable event. As a customer, I would much rather be told that they were short-handed because of an emergency or something like that; it would make me more sympathetic and less frustrated.
Still, though, I don't have the vaguest idea why you feel entitled to "compensation."
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by Punkin4u Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 11:59 AM
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what kind of compensation are you looking for exactly? You need to understand that at times people will not show up for work.
They could have seated you, but then you would have been waiting for a waitress/waiter anyway.
So in the long run you actually helped the manager by leaving, that was one more angry customer that he didn't have to worry about.
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by ChrisMcD Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 10:02 AM
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would you have been happier if they would have seated you at one of the empty tables... no you wouldnr have because then you would have been complaining that no one was servicing you.... each servers is assigned a certain amount of tables, when all the servers tables are filled, he he doesnt get new customers until someone else finishes up his meal and leaves..... i thought everyone knew this....
as for being compensated for your time, thats a ridicilous demand... you were told that it would be 10-15 mins before you would be seated and you could have said no and left then,,, besides 10-15 mins really isnt that long of a wait in a restaraunt...
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by Cor H Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 8:18 AM
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They told you it would be 10 to 15 minutes and you agreed. Why did the number of empty tables make a difference, especially if other waiting customers weren't bothered?
Did it take more than 10-15 minutes?
I'm just not understanding why, if you agreed to wait the amount of time they specified, the state of the restaurant was such a problem.
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by AFPheonix Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 4:24 AM
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One could conjecture that there was supposed to be a midshift in there somewhere that either called in sick, quit, was fired, or was delayed in getting to work. The boss cannot prevent workers from leaving if it's time for them to go.
Besides, 10 to 15 minutes isn't an outrageous amount of time to wait. The other people had the right attitude by being patient.
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Is it?
by AFPheonix Tue January 24, 2006 @ 4:47 AM
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by Venice Posted Sun January 22, 2006 @ 12:04 AM
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I can't believe you waited 1 hour and 20 minutes with a ten month old child on your lap. Did it ever occur to you to leave, especially after the circus started?
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