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Policies and procedures
Posted Wed February 9, 2011 5:12 pm, by Sandra D. written to Sears, Roebuck & Co.
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Purchased a Nuvi Garmin GPS 12/23/10 as a present. The recipient declined the gift and I attempted to return it to the original store. My personal identification was requested. I showed my drivers license but said that I did NOT want my info entered into their database. The employee said that nothing could be done. I asked for a manager, he said he was it. Following day, I called the store manager and related the problem. He said there was no way to process a refund without submission of my information.
I did not have to provide personal info in order to buy the item and I shouldn't have to provide it for a refund.
Then I called Sears 800 customer service. I spoke with Miranda, emp #77020, who said that "...no one can help me with that..." and that "...nothing can be done...". I asked for a manager/supervisor and spoke with Alexis, emp #250901. She reiterated what everyone else had said, that no refund can be processed without caving into to this corporate policy and allowing my personal info to be gathered, coalated, analyzed and potentially sold as a commodity by one of the wealthiest retail marketers in the US. I respectfully decline and choose to opt out of this practice.
I understand the need to prevent fraudulent returns. I verified my identity and have the original receipt. It is MY policy not to have personal info entered into anyone's database, for any reason. I am incredulous that NO ONE at Sears can think outside the box and find a way to resolve my issue without violating my principles. I object to being forced to submit to data collection in order to obtain a refund. I resent having company policy quoted as opposed to action being taken to resolve my issue. I'm very dissatisfied.
I want a refund check sent to my address of the full purchase price, $106.99. Sears may have my name & address and nothing else.
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Um, then wouldn't that involve you supplying your PERSONAL INFORMATION??
You say you understand the need to prevent fraud, so I guess that I DON'T understand why you're refusing.
I mean, I'd rather have my $106 back!
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by mooney Posted Sun February 27, 2011 @ 8:05 PM
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well it looks like you lost $106.99 then. if everyone else complies to the policies and procedures that keep the store from taking a loss, what is it that makes you so special?
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by KGBags Posted Sat February 12, 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Sometimes you have to show ID with a return. I know Target's return policy, for example, clearly states that an ID MAY be required for ANY return, even if you are not doing anything out of the ordinary. Returning items to a store is not an automatic, if you choose not to abide by a company's return policy, than that is your right. Just as the company has a right to set their own return policy. As others have said, the alternative is a "no return, period" policy.
In the future, if you are very selective about your personal information, I suggest you familiarize yourself with a company's return policy BEFORE you make a purchase, and specifically ask a manager if and when you might be required to show ID. Then choose to shop at those stores that do not require IDs for returns. It is your responsibility to be an informed consumer.
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by Chadg Posted Sat February 12, 2011 @ 8:01 AM
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Good for you! Its time we start standing up and challenging big businesses and their motives. As the person below said, Law Enforcement, Finance, and Gov't Agencies are the only groups that should be taking your information.
Its starting to get annoying that WE are subject to THEIR terms and conditions. Its as if WE dont matter.
Perhaps they do have honest motives like preventing fraud, but, if their data systems become compromised and your information is stolen and used to commit fraud against you, thats not exactly fair.
As far as im concerned, sears can have two pieces of information- My full name, and my zip code. No DL numbers, SSN's phone numbers or full addresses, too many opportunites for ID theft and or unwanted mailings or phone calls from the advertising department.
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The deal is
by Lisa H. Sat February 12, 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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by Jared C. Posted Fri February 11, 2011 @ 1:12 PM
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I agree 100% with the letter writer.
I don't care what Sears' excuse is but they have no right to collect this personal information from anyone. Sears doesn't work in law enforcement, in finance or for the government - the only three areas of industry I can think of that have a right to ask for and obtain this sort of data.
If this policy is challenged in court, it will be over-turned by the judge presiding over the matter. I'm pretty confident on that.
Also please see the court case published TODAY on CNN.com regarding California ordering retailers to stop asking consumers for zip codes. If that isn't legal in CA, this policy will DEFINITELY be shot down in CA as well.
If it gets shot down in CA, Sears will probably be coerced into re-doing the policy nationwide as that would be easier than having different policies state-by-state where Sears operates.
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Well then
by Nicole F. Fri February 11, 2011 @ 4:19 PM
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by dg132001 Posted Thu February 10, 2011 @ 8:42 PM
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"I want a refund check sent to my address of the full purchase price, $106.99. Sears may have my name & address and nothing else."
Well, then apparently you may have NO REFUND!
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by MoniB Posted Thu February 10, 2011 @ 7:56 PM
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The information is collected so that if they need to they can verify that you actually returned the merchandise and it's not an employee doing fake returns.
It has nothing to do with selling your
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by Irving Patrick Freleigh Posted Thu February 10, 2011 @ 7:12 PM
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"It is MY policy not to have personal info entered into anyone's database, for any reason."
Then get rid of your drivers license and your Social Security card, for starters, because having those things puts your personal info in a database.
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by Richard S. Posted Thu February 10, 2011 @ 3:27 PM
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If you don't want to return the items to Sears and get a refund, then you can try selling the Garmin on Ebay or Craig'slist. You can even try giving it to someone else as a gift.
Most stores ask for your name and address when returns are made. This is to keep track of who is making returns.
Another option for you is to ask the person who you were going to give it to, to return it for you. That way their information is given and not yours.
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$100+ gift and the person didn't want it? Yowza.
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From what I"ve read, stores keep track of this information and share it -- through a couple of different clearinghouses -- and then they use that info to identify people who do too many returns (then those people are denied the ability to return at some stores, even at stores they've never shopped at before).
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Good point
by Lisa H. Thu February 10, 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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by Nicole F. Posted Wed February 9, 2011 @ 6:41 PM
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You are not providing the full story.
The only time they do get your DL number (regarding returns) is because you either do NOT have the receipt or it is over the 90/30 day return policy. You say it is from electronics? 30 day return policy, which would make the last day you could return it around 1/23.
So, you are over the 30 days and they were going to do a courtesy return/refund for you. This means you have to play by their rules, sorry.
Also, they don't sell your information. I'm "in the system" both with my address and DL number. I have never received any junk mail that I can tie to Sears. What could they do with your DL number? They could get more information from your name and address, anyway. The most they could pull from your DL number is your birthdate, maybe.
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by PepperElf Posted Wed February 9, 2011 @ 6:12 PM
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the reason information is stored into the database is most likely to ensure a customer isn't a "serial returner'
aka someone who buys an item to use it for a few days and then returns it ... like they were "renting" it.
as for your personal data being in a database... um it already is. seriously. it's public information.
http://www.spokeo.com/ ... www.zabasearch.com ... and those are just two sites. i've seen others too.
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Exactly
by Lisa H. Thu February 10, 2011 @ 9:59 AM
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