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Teach Your Staff Logic and Manners, Starbucks
Posted Wed February 4, 2009 12:00 pm, by John K. written to Starbucks
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I have been a loyal Starbucks customer for many years. In my area, the quality of customer service at the location I go to has gone down a lot in the last two years. I went there today at 6:30am to the drive through. Another car ahead of me pulled up to the drive through and ordered. To my surprise, he placed a very large order consisting of boxed coffees to go and several bags. I waited 17 minutes. I already had cars behind me and couldn't leave. That was just ridiculous. I am the owner of a quick service restaurant myself, and if I had a customer leave a large order like that, I would politely ask him to come around and park his car while his order is being prepared and we would bring it out to him. I'm usually very calm and understanding but this was certainly uncalled for.
By the time it was my turn to approach the window, the girl was very cold and didn't mention anything about the wait. She handed me my sandwich and then she made my drink and left it at her station and disappeared to the back room for an eternal couple of minutes. When I saw her come out, I called her over and asked if that was my coffee. She said "here you go" and handed it to me and walked off to fidget with her headset. After I pulled away I took that first sip---COLD and half full!
This store was fabulous when they first opened it. Great staff, so cheerful and friendly. The kind of people I would have loved to hire at my place. Something happened, all these great, mature people left and were replaced with people with no customer service or logic. There's always a high percentage that you won't enjoy your experience at his location.
Teach them a little bit more on logic and manners. A "have a nice day" wouldn't kill this morning crew.
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by shane h. Posted Mon February 9, 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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if you want cheap vietnamese coffee then just buy maxwell house and save your $4.
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by Queenie22 Posted Mon February 9, 2009 @ 6:26 PM
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This is a letter I could've written to the T! Starbucks is notorious for long drive-thru waits. I was parked in line for 25 mins. yesterday and same thing: slow service and once you're in line, you can't get out. I seriously considered abandoning my car and walking 1.5 miles to the caribou down the street. I've never gotten an apology for the long wait. . .it's like they're too dumb to even see what is going on.
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by Beeracuda Posted Sat February 7, 2009 @ 9:30 PM
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Logic? At a Starbucks? Anyone who would spend the amount of money they charge for burnt-tasting coffee lacks logic. Even if they served the best tasting coffee I've ever had, I still wouldn't pay what they're asking. I'd prefer Dunkin' Donuts coffee, thank you.
It's all so pretentious anyway. Their employees are called "baristas". Can you get any more pretentious than that? They are clerks, servers, employees, coffee pourers, etc. This is along the same lines as referring to Wal-Mart employees as "associates", or Subway employees as "sandwich artists". Come on, let's not change the name of the job to make it sound more important than it really is. There's no shame in being an employee, cashier, clerk, salesperson, etc.
What's next? A McDonald's employee being called a Burger Engineer? A Dominos' employee referred to as a Pizza Technician? A cab driver as a Transportation Manager? Ugh....
/rant off
Getting back to your complaint, perhaps it has to do with the economy, and the fact that Starbucks is closing a lot of stores. Perhaps people have less interest in satisfying the customer in the face of possible layoffs/firings.
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by Anonymous A. Posted Sat February 7, 2009 @ 5:34 AM
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Reminds me of what happened at a fast food one time..except for, the jerk in the car ahead of me wouldn't leave! He was apparently pissed off about not getting a free gift certificate which was advertised if you spend a certain amount of money or to that sort. I guess he didn't meet the requirement,and the employee at the window kept telling him that. The jerk got loud and verbally threatening, and started arguing with the employee;10-15 minutes later, the jerk still sitting there as if he would get his way, the employee shuts his window after having enough with the customer, and actually had no choice but to shut the entire restaurant down (turning off all the lights, this was late at night)! and even then, the jerk is still sitting there, not budging!The drive thru is now 5 cars deep, and no way out for me or the others, and I was getting pretty angry because I was tired from work, and mind you, very HUNGRY. We sat a good 10-15 minutes, before I got out of my car and started yelling at the jerk! Everyone else jumped in, and when he knew he was out-numbered, he finally left, and left without any food, hah! As for getting my food that I ordered a good 30 minutes before dealing with that moron? No, I went elsewhere because I wasn't sure when they would open back up, but of course I wasn't mad at them, I was mad at the customer! Its a shame how one can ruin your night.
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by not_in_this_life Posted Fri February 6, 2009 @ 5:32 PM
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Next time put your car in park right where it is, shut it off, lock in and march right in there demanding your fresh food. I cannot stand people who order the whole store through the drivethru. If the order taker sees that they have a big order they should tell them to come inside or at least post a sign. But heck, a lot of people would disregard it anyway. Like the one lady in front of me at the bank who made a huge transaction in the drive thru.
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This letter perfectly illustrates why employees who understand good customer service are worth their weight in gold and those who don't are an actual liability to the company.
There are two elements to this letter...one is the excessive wait and the other is how the customer was treated after waiting all that time.
If a customer chooses to place a huge order through the drive thru, there's nothing a company can do about it except ask if they're willing to pull forward. If a customer won't then the company is stuck with no further options.
But...the company CAN do something about the people who had to wait as a result. In fact, if they don't, they end up with letters like this.
Nearly all drive throughs are designed to accommodate four cars from the menu board to the window. Therefore, it can be assumed three other cars had placed their orders. In this case, because of the extreme delay, the manager should have slid to the window to help the drive through person move the line which most assuredly was backed up. He/she should have greeted the next three cars with a warm smile, a sincere apology for the wait and a free beverage. The next four cars after that get a warm smile, a sincere apology and their order as fast as possible and if any of those customers seem unduly upset at the wait then they get a free beverage too. After that, the manager can assume the original backup has been cleared, the line is back to normal and he/she should get over to the next place they're need AFTER giving the drive through person a big attaboy and thanks for their efforts.
And, if somehow the manager cant get over to the window to do all that because he/she is busy helping the front or something like that? Well, I guarantee he/she is still aware of the huge backup and he/she should call over to the drive through person and tell he/she to comp the next three drinks after and the manager will be over to help as soon as possible.
This is exactly the kind of situation managers are paid to handle. Clearly, nothing of the sort happened in this customer's case. In fact, it sounds like the drive through person was frustrated by the extreme order and took it out on the next car which happened to be our letter writer.
And for those who would say my solution is "fantasy" and this is "real world", no, it's not. It's what any good manager who has a handle on his business and knows what he's doing would do. I know...Ive done it numerous times myself.
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by Donno Posted Thu February 5, 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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Teaching logic and manners isn't that easy. It isn't impossible, but for an employer to do it in an efficient manner is quite a challenge.
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I agree with those who said although it's inconvenient, it is a first-come-first serve process, and while unfortunate, you sometimes get stuck behind someone with a large order while you only have one item. I wouldn't blame Starbucks; I'd blame the customer who used the drive-thru for such a huge order. They should've gone inside. Personally I think the drive-thru should be used for those with standard orders.
Too bad Starbucks doesn't have an express lane.
I do agree with you about cold half-cup of coffee. And I also agree that a little reasonable pleansantry from employees can go a long way.
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by jeishere Posted Thu February 5, 2009 @ 9:55 AM
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I get it was a pain that the OP had to wait so long, but the orders are made in the order they are taken. Are they suppose to not work on the big order until the drive thru is clear of all small orders?
It isn't like McDonalds since everybody is likely ordering coffee. Why would one customer get preference over another one.
However, the cold, half cup of coffee is definitely a valid issue.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Thu February 5, 2009 @ 9:29 AM
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Ah, but I'll bet the other problem was that they are unable to help more than one customer at a time. I'm guessing that until they fill an order, they don't have the staff (or the right process) to take care of multiple drive-in customers at a time.
It's the "first come, first served" method of working. And it's really annoying to all the people that have to wait their turn.
Plus, can you imagine how irate the "large order" customer would be if they made him wait while the Starbucks filled orders of people than came in AFTER him.
There are occasionally letters, here, from people that were asked to pull into the lot to wait for their order who feel that it's unacceptable.
I happen to agree with you: they need a better way to do it and it's definitely unacceptable to give you a half-filled cold drink.
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by Cor H. Posted Thu February 5, 2009 @ 8:57 AM
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I don't know if Starbucks asks customers to pull forward and wait for large orders or not. When I was in college, I worked at a McDonald's. There were many occasions in which we would ask a car to pull forward and they would refuse. I remember one woman specifically who commented, "No, I'm going to inconvenience you for a change."
It was no inconvenience to me. I ran the orders for the cars waiting behind her out the back door.
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Starbucks is closing a plethera of store across the country and this may be one of them. I found unhappy employees at our Circuit City when it was annouced that the stores were closing...they were rude, obnoxious and could care less if made a purchase or not.
Maybe this is what is happening with this store since you said the store was fabulous when it opened.
And common sense would dictate that you never take your unhappiness out on a customer...but I am afraid with the economy the way it is and the larger companies downsizing or going out of business, this is the attitude we are going to be getting.
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by sgtsharkey Posted Wed February 4, 2009 @ 7:16 PM
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Over the years I've learned that the quickest service in the morning hours at such places like Starbucks, McDonalds, Taco Cabanna (a Texas outlet), etc... happen when you go inside. I hardly ever go through drive-thrus anymore unless its on off hours. You "run into" too many jerks who place large orders going through them.
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I think the large order should have pulled ahead and the employees could have brought the food and coffee out to his vehicle. Why hold everyone else up who just wants a $4 cup o' joe?
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