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by PepperElf Posted Tue May 20, 2008 @ 1:55 AM
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You know most phone companies give you the option of blocking those 900 numbers, or whatever xxx numbers you want to have blocked.
Maybe it's something you need to check into?
(Likewise if he rang up over $250 in xxx calls, you might want to check the internet usage too... just sayin) ;)
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by Desert Mom Posted Sun May 18, 2008 @ 3:11 AM
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The wrong people are procreating. Take responsibility for your own child's behaviour. The kid racked up a huge bill, and instead of making the kid take responsibility for his actions, you are threatening legal action against the company.
Hope you're not planning on burdening the world with another spoiled, confused, undisciplined brat.
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by YouAreKiddingMe Posted Tue May 13, 2008 @ 8:28 PM
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Think of this as an opportunity to start parenting.
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My younger brother is 13 years old and he did something similar. I added an extra line on my cell phone contract, and he did very well with it for a few months. Last month I received my cell phone bill, and it was a little over $250. I called U.S. Cellular to find out what made my bill so high, and it was from "interactive text messaging," you know, the numbers on tv that you text for horoscopes and such. They were not able to take all the charges off the bill, but they were able to give paid credits worth half of the extra charges because he is a minor. I did not ask them to do this as I understand that the irresponsibility of a 13 year old boy is not their problem. But, they were nice enough to do it anyway. Needless to say, my little brother is mowing lawns and doing odd jobs around the house to make up for the money my father sent me to pay the bill. There is no reason to blame the company for what your son did. I don't know where you live, but in most places, fast food restaurants will hire children at ages 14 and 15. I suggest that your son learn some personal responsibility and be held accountable for his actions. As an adult if he had made those calls he would be responsible to pay for them, being 15 years old should not get him "off the hook."
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by Heywood69 Posted Mon May 12, 2008 @ 2:18 AM
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Your phone company most likely has 900 number blocking service. Use it.
Look here : http://www.ehow.com/how_2090349_block-900-numbers.html
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i'm sorry if i'm being simple, but do you mean he was calling phone sex services? if so, HE called THEM, not vice versa. 15 year old guys are full of raging hormones and they think about sex constantly. sex isn't filthy, but it can be inappropriate. however, he initiated it and i bet he enjoyed it. it's not the phone company's fault. make him cough up the money. sounds like a summer job is in order.
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by lovescats Posted Sun May 11, 2008 @ 8:08 PM
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I won't add to all the excellent comments made here but I would like to say it's kind of sad that the mother doesn't get it. She is blaming the phone company for something that is entirely her responsibility. I don't think she is even aware of that.
This is a case when the "Village" should not be expected to parent a child. It is the parent who should have been taking every precaution that this didn't occur and when it did it should be the party who disciplines the child.
Hopefully she will get it when she reads these responses.
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by Buddy Posted Sat May 10, 2008 @ 2:56 PM
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Oh, please! This is not the fault of the phone company, it is your son's. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret, okay, but you have to promise me that you will not drop from a heart attack. Are you ready? Are you sure? Okay, here we go.................................................................... ......................................YOUR LITTLE BUNDLE OF JOY IS NOT A PERFECT LITTLE ANGEL WHO CAN DO NO WRONG!
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by Evil N Posted Fri May 9, 2008 @ 11:01 PM
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I know with some companies you can only leave one person authorized on the account, and have a "pin". I would see if you can do that here to prevent any future incidents in case. Other than that, even though the phone company should have used better judgement you are responsible for the bill, and you need to get your son to pay you for it, whether it be with money, doing chores, etc. Or maybe take his phone away from him to teach him you mean business. Hopefully you get a response explaining why he was granted access to your account and their reasoning behind it because I think that is wrong.
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by April S. Posted Fri May 9, 2008 @ 3:16 PM
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I agree that it's the sons fault. I also agree that he should have to pay it. And maybe the phone company should have to wait for however long it takes a 15 year old to pay it. If they will let 15 year olds place it, they should have to suffer the consequences. I don't think the mother should have to pay it.
I think the phone company also shares in the blame. These numbers should automatically be blocked. It should require a credit card entered into the phone in order to call a 900 number.
To the posters saying she's a bad mom and should be watching her son like a hawk, you either don't have children or don't have a 15 year old. She we all install hidden cameras in the house so the children can be watched 24/7? Or maybe she should call a babysitter because we should never let our children have the opportunity to screw up.
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Agreed
by Cor H. Fri May 9, 2008 @ 6:37 PM
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by Rene in TN Posted Fri May 9, 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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As so many have stated, this is your son's fault. He should take responsibility. And as his mother, it is your responsibility to see that he does. If you fix this for him, you're just teaching him that nothing is his fault.
I have a 14-yr old son & I monitor his computer usage & his cell phone. I pay for everything in the house so there is NO expectation of privacy. And I'm very open with him about that. I don't sneak behind his back - I hold out my hand for his cell phone to see who he's calling & texting. I randomly check the computer to see the sites he's visiting. And after a particularly offensive site was found on his computer, I moved the computer to the living room so I could see him when he was on the computer. The computer stayed in the living room for more than six months & he's very careful now not to abuse the privilege of not having me look over his shoulder all the time.
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Sounds like someone needs to be grounded and find a means to pay you back for the phonecalls he made. If you absolve your son of responsibility for what HE did, then you are setting him up for a lifetime of trouble.
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by hussyinterrupted Posted Fri May 9, 2008 @ 9:36 AM
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Ya know when I was about that age (13, exactly) I got into a similar situation. But on a much larger scale. The bill, $1300! Instead of sexlines, I called psychic hotlines. It was in the mid 90's when every 5 seconds you saw a commercial for those things.
Yeah when I did it I knew I was going to get into trouble. But I dunno. I was testing my limits I guess. But let me tell you the way my mother handled it. I learned about all about consequences. Boy howdy did I ever!
She paid the bill off for me and then made the about 6 months of my life all about paying her back. She immediately had 900 numbers blocked from our phones. Took the phone out of my bedroom (and too a 13 yr old girl that is pretty traumatic!) and made me work for every penny that I owed her. No allowance, only the most basic and cheapest clothes and shoes. No fancy extras, extra chores with a monetary value atached (a very modest one if I may add), all after school activities were halted and I was made to go to my grandmothers after school so she could keep tabs on me (and maybe give me a dollar or two if I scrubbed her bathroom floor). She hooked me up with a job bagging veggies at a locals farmer's market for the weekends and this was my life until I paid her back every red cent. If friends would call she would tell them I was not available and they should find me in school the next day. If I had games or something I wanted to do on the weekends that conflicted with work she would let me know that working to pay off my obligations is my priority. And this all started in the spring. By the time I got around to paying her back it was the middle of winter!
But yes it really did force me to learn a lesson. It taught me that as much as I wanted something I would have to work to have the means. And that for every choice I make there is a definate consequence which is not always enjoyable. But alas this is an adult's life.
But maybe trying an approach like this with your son will help him understand. I think that if my mother would have just paid and given me a slap on the wrist, or blamed the phone company and made me out to be a victim that my life probably would have turned out really different. This is a lesson, i think, learned the earlier the better.
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Pamela, you might want to check out this thread:
http://www.planetfeedback.com/hilton+hotels/other/movies+at+the+hilton /293558
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by Anonymous A. Posted Fri May 9, 2008 @ 6:55 AM
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15 years old?you make him sound like he is a helpless 4 year old! you seem like one who "babys" your child. While how you raise your child is completely up to you, you should also be discussing with your son ways to pay off that bill. That is no one else's fault but his.Incase he has mental handicaps? You should then keep a better eye on him and what he's doing. Either way, is no excuse. And 15 years old is WAYYYY more than old enough to know not to pick up that phone and dial some adult hotline!
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by T. C. Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 9:52 PM
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I agree with the other posters. Your son was and is the problem. Make him handle it. He knew he was breaking the rules and it is not the phone companys fault. I can guarantee you they have a recording of your son lying about his age so save your attorney fees.
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is an awful lot of money, even for phone sex - meaning he was on these calls for extended periods.
One might ask where you were while he was making all these calls?
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by SusanB Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 7:45 PM
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Your son has been subjected to filth intended for a grown person because he picked up the phone and repeatedly dialed either a 900 or 976 number that you, the parent, had the power to have the phone company block for free.
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Take the phone away from him and make him pay you back an amount you can agree upon together. He's 15, he doesn't NEED a phone. You can also get him a phone he can pay for himself if for some reason he DOES need this phone (Im sure he doesn't need rides home from work yet), then he will use up his minutes and not have it anymore once he does something like this. He proved irresponsible in this situation. He needs a consequence, not a mother sticking up for him with the phone company. He will think it's ok and mom will figure out a way to fix things for him.
The world of a grown man is everywhere.
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Oh please. If your son is a typical male with unsupervised computer access at home, he's been accessing adult porn since he was 12 or 13 years old.
I also don't agree that "porn" is "filth," but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.
The problem here isn't the phone company -- the problem seems to be a teenager who either doesn't respect limits, rules and boundaries imposed by his parents, or a teenager whose parents didn't impose any restrictions in his behavior.
Make your kid get a job and pay his own phone bill. Don't give teenagers a free ride: You need to prepare him for adulthood. And part of adulthood is finding the FREE porn on the 'net. Only suckers or fetishists pay for porn.
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by calm Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 5:11 PM
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So what you're saying, basically, is that the services adults have access to should be limited to those that people think are appropriate to expose their unsupervised kids to. That's not a reasonable demand. It taking a village (as they say) doesn't mean the parents get to control everyone else's lives in the name of controlling how their children are raised.
Look, I get that parents have to leave the room with the phone or computer in it sometimes and they can't be taking their children with them every single time for 18 years. I get that kids today have access to much more adult content via cable TV, internet access, and phone "services" than my siblings and I did when we were children. I do not think that if I had a 15-year-old son I would be enjoying raising him right now. (Well, I suppose I would have become fond of him by now, so maybe I would be enjoying it more than I think.) I don't envy you by any means, and I do sympathize with your situation.
But you seem to be thinking that your son is the victim and the company the perpetrator, when in fact it is you who are the victim, and your son is the perpetrator. Blaming the company isn't going to solve anything. You need to exercise more control over him, because apparently he isn't capable of exercising enough control over himself. The fact that he managed to achieve such an impressive phone bill suggests that either he is incapable of recognizing that his actions have consequences (in which case he needs to be better supervised) or he isn't too worried about those consequences (in which case you need to make them worse).
He couldn't have done this without access to a phone, which it appears you provided. Of course I assume he is going to have a cell phone with no contract so he can call 911, and no other access to any phone (landline or wireless) you're responsible for paying for for the foreseeable future. That should curtail his new hobby. But that doesn't seem as if it will be enough to prevent him from finding a different way to spend his time and your money. Maybe you can find something he values that you won't be spending any more money on until you have saved as much as you will be spending on his phone bills. Maybe you can just lecture him about this from now until Labor Day. I don't know.
But good luck with it. I hope you've got enough money left over to hire an intimidating babysitter and go out with some of your friends to let off some steam, because you'd have to be superhuman not to need to right now.
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by SusanB Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 4:56 PM
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You should be disappointed in your son - - not Telephone Support Services. Your son obviously picked up the phone and dialed 900 numbers without your permission. I'm curious why, with a teenager living in your home, you didn't have your local phone company block these types of calls.
The CEO isn't going to discuss this bill with you nor can I see the value in hiring an attorney who will cost you more than your son spent to write a letter.
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by Ryman Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 4:49 PM
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In addition to everything that others have already said (you know: parent your child, not the company's problem etc.) you mention several time you are wanting to handle this at the lowest possible level, yet you are demanding to hear from the CEO???
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by Beeracuda Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 4:11 PM
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As someone said below, a kid who is 15 will do things like this, until he's shown that there are consequences for disobedience. Hell, when I was a kid, (back in the *ahem* early 70s), I used to play on the phone a lot. In fact, I remember calling someone in Alaska just to ask them if they were an Eskimo. Of course, when that phone bill came in, there was $17 worth of calls (a lot of money for back then), and my father went ballistic. Of course, he knew that my older brother and sister didn't make those calls, so guess who had to pay? Me. Through labor over the next few weekends. And rightfully so.
$264 is a lot of money, but it's a pretty cheap price to pay to teach your child responsibility.
Consider it another lesson in child rearing.
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I agree with the others, this is on your son's shoulder's not the services. How exactly do you think they should verify someone's age? Send someone to the house?
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by Zan Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 4:03 PM
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This is just a sad, sad example of the way so many people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions, or for those of their children - for whom you are responsible for 18 years.
YOUR CHILD made these calls. HE should pay for them. And if he can't, YOU have to. It is not this phone service's responsibility to parent your kid - it's yours. If your son can't be trusted with the phone, you need to take away his access to it. If it were my kid, he would have his phone priviliges taken away and he'd be working part time to pay off every cent of that phone bill.
I'm sorry, but while I sympathize with you for having this problem with your son, I have NO sympathy for the way you're trying to foist off the responsibility that is yours and your son's.
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Others have made some good points, that I won't rehash.
However, I wonder... what COULD a company that provides a service like this do to verify age?
By phone, there is no way to do this. Any question they could possibly ask him would NOT verify his age. At best, it would verify that he has the credit card or driver's license of an adult. Easy for most kids and teens to get.
It's true: a child of any age, old enough only to know how to dial a phone, could call. When asked "Are you over 18?" a child's answer of "yes" is no proof. A child can't legally, "agree" to anything.
The problem, therefore, is in the existence of these services in the first place. Personally, I've never used them ("yeah, Jeffrey, sure... whatever you say...") and don't plan to. But I respect that there are adults that want to use said services. So, I need to tell my 5 year old to NOT go near the phone. When he's older, I'll tell him that he's only allowed to make calls when I dial for him (e.g., to call his friends). A little older, I'll tell him that he can only use the phone to call people that I know. And that he'll need special permission to call someone else. When he's out of the house, it's his problem.
I simply don't see a solution, Pamela. They can't possibly verify who's calling.
What would you suggest? Does your lawyer have any ideas how a company can provide a service like this and guarantee that kids can't call?
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by Donno Posted Thu May 8, 2008 @ 2:37 PM
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The lowest level here seems to be the person you see when you look in the mirror.
Having your son pay the bill is the right way to handle this.
I lived in a house with 16 single rooms. There was a "house phone" that was paid using the honor system. A new resident to the community made 23 hours of adult calls in a 24 hour period (!) on that phone, and when asked for his name he gave another resident's name. The bill came to $400 as | |