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by thejunebug Posted Mon September 22, 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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It is really amazing how many restaurants do not talk to employees about food allergies. I have a severe allergy to avocados and have to always ask if dishes contain avocado or guacamole, etc. Sometimes the waitstaff are unsure. But I always say "If it does, can it please be left off? I am severely allergic." I can't tell you how many times I have been brought a plate covered in avocado despite my request. I think allergies should be addressed in orientation and training. Sometimes you can't taste a hidden ingredient and can suffer an unneeded attack which is very scary. People assume some risk by eating in restaurants, certainly, but the waitress in this case was just inappropriate.
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by Kaitlyn G. Posted Wed September 10, 2008 @ 9:03 PM
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not cool, she should have double checked and immediately apologized instead of making a joke. allergies can be life threatening so it is very important to double check.
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by Becks Posted Sun September 7, 2008 @ 8:04 PM
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I'm on the OP's side here -- she informed the waitstaff she could not eat tomatoes and the server should have checked and re-checked that the food was safe.
Until you have seen someone go into an anaphylactic reaction, you have no idea how severe food allergies can be.
I worked in food service for many years. I used to wait on a lady with a severe seafood allergy and she loved paella made without shellfish. Yes, paella usually contains shellfish but we could do a shellfish-free version for her and we did it. If it were not possible, we would have said "Sorry, not possible". If you TELL a customer that the food does not contain an item or that you can make it without the allergen, then you must take responsibility for it.
She said she went to another restaurant one time and was told they could do a scampi dish with chicken instead of shrimp. Lo and behold, the chef must have added shrimp, then picked it out before it was served to her. She had a severe reaction and had to be whisked to the hospital. Not so funny when it's your own life we're talking about.
To joke about someone's allergy is akin to joking about a disability. If you know someone well, you can get away with it but it is unprofessional to do so with a stranger.
I feel sorry for their evening being ruined and hope they get a free meal out of it.
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To me...
by Jeffrey/Branding/Alex Tue August 26, 2008 @ 7:38 PM
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by James C. Posted Sun August 24, 2008 @ 3:31 PM
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Honestly, it sounds like the restaurant staff handled the situation well.
The waitress seems to have only made a joke thinking that there was actually NOT any tomato in the dish. When she realized there was a problem, she got the manager, and the manager apologized and did not charge you.
I agree that what happened sucks, but I honestly don't know if there are grounds to complain about THAT part of it.
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by Bobosgirl Posted Tue August 19, 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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Okay, before I start talking, I'M ON THE OP'S SIDE!! Now that that's out of the way, and I agree that the waitress was out of line, here's my take.
My youngest went to camp this year and we received the following in the orientation packet:
"No Nut Policy"
Rainbow Valley/Sunset West Day Camp strives for a safe and equitable environment; therefore, in order to maintain safety for all of its campers, Rainbow Valley/Sunset West Day Camp does not allow any nut or nut oil products at camp.
Campers and all camp personnel are not allowed to prepare or bring items in their lunches or snacks that contain nuts or nut oil.
All food package content labels should be checked carefully to ensure that they do not contain nuts or nut oil.
All Campers and camp personnel should refrain from using all nut products at home during camp week, as nut oils transmitted via the skin may cause a severe reaction in those allergic to nuts or nut oil.
Unit Leaders should check all campers lunches and snacks each morning upon arrival of each camper to the unit.
Any item containing nuts or nut oil should be bagged and brought to Camp Headquarters to be traded for a comparable yet no nut, no nut oil food item."
HUH?
I found this WAY over the top, and told the camp director so. Everybody go in your kitchen and check your cupboards. Did you know out of 33 different items in my snack/bread cupboard, ALL had some form of nut, nut oil or nut protein? I'm supposed to alter what the entire family eats for a whole week because one child out of 150 kids may have a nut allergy?
I do agree with the OP, but how can we alter everything we do in our life, what we eat, what we breathe, for one person? It's hard.
Because of Sarah's asthma, she has about 30% of her tongue that has dead tastebuds ( it used to be about 50%). She has an ever growing list of foods she WILL eat that don't taste like metal to her, and peanut butter is numero uno. Plus, the camp guidelines ruled out everthing but plain lunchmeat and fruits/veggies!
So I hear everyone's opinion.
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Actually...
by Jeffrey/Branding/Alex Tue August 19, 2008 @ 4:08 PM
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Food
by Just Brenda Tue August 19, 2008 @ 5:56 PM
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Brenda
by ♫Venice♫ Tue August 19, 2008 @ 8:40 PM
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Yeah well
by Just Brenda Tue August 19, 2008 @ 9:19 PM
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Bobosgirl
by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Fri August 22, 2008 @ 11:48 PM
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This was...
by Jeffrey/Branding/Alex Tue August 19, 2008 @ 6:57 PM
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by Rye G. Posted Tue August 19, 2008 @ 2:22 AM
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Wow,
I guess I'm the guy that left the "not-so-nice" comment. It's good to know that someone is there to crack down on any dissenting opinion and ban it from this site. I guess the first amendment IS truly dead in favor of the fairness doctrine. I figured my opinion would cause some debate, but I didn't expect to be ERASED. Perhaps it's for the best. We can all get along in magical fairy land where no one has a counterpoint.
Me: I'm a fan of the movie NETWORK. We need an angry man to stand up and say "I'M MAD AS H#@% AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE". Even if the censors step in and deem it inappropriate. I wear the badge of inappropriateness with honor.
As for the peanut-free rooms; it's gone way beyond that, to the point of denying any peanut products in whole school systems. My kid can't eat peanut butter because of someone else's allergies? The bigger question that needs to be asked that the censor's won't allow is this... Where did the allergies come from? NO ONE was deathly allergic to peanuts in the '50s, or the '80s for that matter. Why now? What have we done to our children to make them so incapable of surviving in the real world?
Is it the banning of lawn darts? The enforcement of helmets on bicycles? Keeping your kids on bungee leashes for fear of them wandering off? When's the last time you saw a kid with a wood burning kit. We of this generation all managed to survive. Why all the mollycoddling.
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Harley
by ♫Venice♫ Tue August 19, 2008 @ 5:00 PM
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Penicillin
by ♫Venice♫ Thu August 21, 2008 @ 2:46 PM
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Someone left a not-so-nice comment about food allergies that was, thankfully, removed. Basically, this person went off on some rant about the wimpiness of people who can't handle certain foods and they should just stay home.
In case that oh-so-helpful person is reading, I'd like to answer. A friend of ours has a son with a severe peanut allergy. His is a life-or-death allergy that his parents would love him not to have because, quite frankly, it's going to make his life a little more difficult. It already makes life difficult because his parents have to be vigilant about what he eats, where he goes to visit, etc. When he's ready for school, they'll have to pack special lunches, and the kid will probably have to eat in special peanut-free areas. As
for staying home because of their "needy son", they already have to do that because of his allergies. But thanks for that advice.
There are parents and people who cannot eat in certain restaurants, live in certain places that they'd like to live in, or visit areas because of their allergies. Do you really think they enjoy that?
The OP's friend in this case did not ask that a special meal be prepared for her; she simply asked that her meal come with no tomatoes (a request which, by the way, The Cheesecake Factory, as well as many restaurants, honors).
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by Wolf Mon August 18, 2008 @ 1:34 PM
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by Final Score: Boys-3, Girls-1 Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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That is completely unprofessional and dangerous. I think that the Cheesecake Factory needs to better educate it's staff on how to deal with food allergies.
I work in a restaurant, and follow the procedure of: 1. Have a manager run an allergy report to make sure there are no (insert allergen here)-based ingredients that can't be left out or removed. In your case, I would make sure there is not a tomato base or anything like that (tomato paste is often used as a thickening agent).
3. Let guest know if item can't be made without the allergen.
2. Whether or not a dish normally comes with said allergen, write "(allergen) ALLERGY" next to the line item, so that the kitchen can avoid cross-contamination, and the food runner can also check it before bringing it to the table.
The way I look at it, if the person eating this food was my loved one with a food allergy, I would want the waitress to be this careful as well.
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Far too many restaurants don't take food allergies seriously. I used to work with a guy who was allergic to most vegetables. He couldn't even have sauce on his pizza. Yet, despite being told that the customer had a food allergy, it was rare that a restaurant would actually make the order to his request. Sandwiches were the worst. Despite specifying "NO VEGETABLES AT ALL", his subs would usually show up with lettuce, tomato, etc. Once, when he finally complained, the cashier asked, "Can't you just pick the vegetables off?"
Anyways, good letter.
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by Nate. Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 5:31 PM
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What you friend most likely said:
"I have a severe allergy to tomatoes, can you make sure the food has none?"
What she needs to say:
"I would like to have the XYZ pasta, with NO TOMATOES. Even if you think there are none there could be, press the no tomato button on the POS, ring it in accordingly and tell the cook as well. I have a severe allergy, and cannot come near them."
With the first phrase, the waitress is likely to forget, or assume that there is no tomato. The second phrase asks for results.
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I can't believe she said that. There is no way she could pull off a statement like that and sound OK about it, kidding or not kidding it's very inappropriate.
I hope they respond to your letter soon, and you are ok! Good luck.
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by Jessica P. Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 2:44 PM
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I totally agree that more should be done to train their employees, at least at that location to make the employees realize the seriousness of food allergies.
Not to discount any of your story, but if you were unsure they were tomatoes because of the dark atmosphere, why didn't you offer to taste them?
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I agree...the waitress was rather sadistic to say the least and the manager should have not only comped your meals buy made her apologize directly to your friend before she left.
I was just wondering, but if you had any doubt about the small red pieces why didn't you ask your friend to taste some of the red pieces just to make sure? You still could have sent it back and then would not have gotten ill.
Its so hard to eat out when one has such allergies as this. One must be so careful.
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If that's how the waitress thinks of food allergies, she is one big, walking liability and should be fired immediately, and banned from working in the food service industry.
Imagine her in a worst case scenario. Someone could die.
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by calm Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 9:25 AM
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I've just read a letter about the excellent service someone with a peanut allergy got at another restaurant.
I wish that there were more stories like those and fewer like yours. I hope your friend has recovered.
But I think that if it were me I probably wouldn't want to go back. Not only was the waitress rude, but the people in the kitchen weren't reliable and I wouldn't trust them a second time. If they say they'll do better and your friend does choose to go back, though, I hope that the experience is much, much better.
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by Mike H. Posted Sun August 17, 2008 @ 9:24 AM
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What that waitress did was cruel and cold blooded and she should have been reprimanded.
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