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Radio Shack Violates Visa Acceptance Procedures
Posted Mon October 26, 2009 12:00 pm, by Aaron A. written to Visa International
Write a Letter to this Company
A merchant required photo ID as condition of accepting my Visa card. There was no valid reason for required photo ID; the item purchased was not restricted, alcoholic, etc.; it was a charger for my mobile phone.
I inquired why photo ID was reuqired and the clerk simply told me "because you should credit" [as opposed to debit].
The merchant that required ID was a RadioShack, store XX at XXXX in Louisville, KY; phone: (502) XXX-XXXX.
Below is another store that required photo ID to process credit card transactions. This store actually has a sign posted indicate that ID is required for credit transactions (and for no good reason, other than it's credit).
Wilsons Leather
Gaffney, SC 29341
I informed the clerk that present photo ID is not required and the only requirement on my behalf is that I present the card with signature on the back panel. The clerk persisted that I present photo ID, and as I had no other means of payment (no cash), I was forced to comply against Visa's rules.
I provided feedback to RadioShack directly, and even pointed out Visa's Rules for Merchants, Card Acceptance and Chargeback Management Guidelines published on Visa's web site. A district manager contacted me from out of state and said she could not alter corporate policy but said she would forward on the information to upper management.
I visited another RadioShack and there seemed to be no such policy to require photo ID for a Visa transaction. In fact, the second store I visited was one of few stores that actually bothered to check if my card was signed.
It is a hassle to have to present photo ID for credit card transactions. I would like the banks which signed these stores to inform the appropriate personnel that requiring photo ID is in violation of Visa's Rules for Merchants.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 2:18 PM
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CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED
When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.
They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or photo ID.
Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.
Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577 or call 1-800-300-3069. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine. You may also report violations online:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. Violations of Visa’s Operating Regulations result in fines of no less than $5,000. To report a merchant, write to Visa Inc. P.O. Box 8999 San Francisco, CA 94128-8999 or call 1-800-VISA-911.
American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization." Report violations to: American Express P.O. Box 297812 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33329-7812 or call 1-800-528-4800 or report online: http://americanexpress.com/yourchoice
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 2:17 PM
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Obviously it is a major security and identity theft risk, extreme invasion of privacy, and a no-brainer to keep your ID to yourself. No reasonable adult would hand over their ID to some violating cashier on demand. The most important thing is making sure it never happens again, so if any violating merchant should ever pop-up in your community, make sure they are eliminated/brought back into line immediately - 1-800-VISA-911.
Never show ID with credit cards.
No ID required with credit cards. Merchants cannot require ID.
If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.
VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069
Also easily report merchant violations online:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
Check the box that says “Merchant required ID”
Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 2:15 PM
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To report, simply call 1-800-VISA-911, press zero twice, and ask to file an "incident report" regarding a merchant violation/merchant who required ID. Crooked merchants shape-up quickly to avoid suspension. Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 2:10 PM
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Walmart did the same thing a few years ago around Christmas time, they were asking for ID with every credit card purchase, regardless if the card was signed. I refused and got the police and security involved, I swiped my card got an approval, and bagged myself, when they asked for ID, I asked why because they had an automated approval and signatures matched, they said "local policy", I said I am not showing ID and I am leaving with my merchandise. LP and security tried to stop me and put their hands on me while I was leaving, I called 911, pressed charges for assault against store LP, and luckily I had the letter from VISA/ MC (I reported them a week prior and had it with me knowing this would happen) and the VISA and MC letter said it is prohibited to ask for ID unless it was a "code 10/suspicious transaction" or the auth response requested sig. I showed that to the police and they let me go, arrested the LP staff, and I sued Walmart for harassment, assault, and misc. damages, and they gave me $50k. I dropped the charges against the individuals only after they agreed to an additional civil restitution of $2500 a piece, and Walmart removed the signs and the manager got fired.
So yes, call 1-800-VISA-911 and report them, they will send you a letter as your ammo...merchants CANNOT do this, and you will win ANY dispute you may have.
Yes, I knew they had this policy and deliberately set them up knowing the police and LP would be involved, but hey, I made $55k for their violations of their contract.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 2:08 PM
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Exposing an address or a driver's license number is completely unacceptable for making a purchase that has no need for that information. A $10 transaction does not need personal information to be exposed, and a $5000 transaction does not either. Who would want to become a target of BURGLARY because an ID check allowed a CRIMINAL to know exactly where thousands of dollars of high end goods would be taken after purchase?
States have stepped up to keep account numbers and expiration dates off of receipts, for good reason. That information does not enhance the function of a receipt, and is wholly unnecessary. Information should be kept private except when necessary. This is security 101, folks.
My address or driver's license number are not relevant to a credit card purchase and have no reason to become a part of it.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 1:50 PM
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Showing ID is the Worst Thing You Can Do.
Cashier is an Identity Thief.
Every time you give somebody your driver’s license, you are giving them, at a minimum:
* Your full legal name
* Your address
* Your full birthday
* A number used to identify you to government agencies
Some state-issued IDs have even more information on them. But even if yours just has the information above, an identity thief can use your ID as a starting point for opening credit accounts in your name, forging other identifying information, and just plain taking over your life. They may even forge an ID in your name and convince your spouse to sleep with them. (Your spouse does ask for ID before going to bed each night, right? Right?)
Now you might be thinking that the cashiers behind the counter at Hot ‘n’ Trendy couldn’t possibly be identity thieves. And even if they were, they’d only see your ID for a few seconds—not nearly enough time to copy down or memorize your information. If you’re thinking that, consider the following:
* Retail cashiers often make close to minimum wage. Identity thieves make a whole lot more until they’re caught, which isn’t all that often.
* As often as “See ID”ers show their ID, it would be virtually impossible to pinpoint the source of any identity theft.
* Cameras that can capture all the information off your ID can be the size of a cell phone or smaller.
Assuming you’re not peeing your pants in consumery terror, you might be wondering if I’m just posing a hypothetical scenario. Indeed, the bullet points above are based on a real experience from a few months ago.
Horrifying Story Time:
My wife and I were in a clothing store with some of her friends, and as women must spend at least one hour in any given store, I was bored to the point of near-insanity. I started to wander the store aimlessly and eventually heard those fateful words from behind the checkout counter: “May I please see your ID.” Only this time, the cashier—the only one behind the counter—sounded ecstatic, whereas no cashier in the history of the world had ever sounded ecstatic about anything up to that point. I was standing to the side of the counter, so I could see the cashier’s actions behind it. As the customer handed over her ID, I noticed the cashier tapped it on the counter a few times while swiping the credit card with her other hand. A perfectly innocent action, so I thought nothing of it.
A few minutes later, the next customer also paid with a credit card, though I could see from my viewpoint that it was clearly signed on the back with some signature scribble. Yet the cashier asked for ID. I figured the store had simply instructed her to ID every card user—a clear violation of their merchant’s agreement with credit card issuers—but I decided to let it go as I was having too much fun ogling this fine-looking cashier.
But when another customer came up a short time later and paid with a credit card, the cashier did not ask for ID. I looked over and saw that there was a second person behind the counter then; a closer look at his name badge revealed he was the store manager. After the manager left the checkout area, Hot Cashier Girl (that’s what I named her, because she is a hot girl cashier) went right back to asking for IDs from credit card users. Each time, she would tap the ID on the counter while waiting for the credit card to process.
About 20 minutes had gone by, and with no sign of shopping completion from my wife and her gang, I wandered the store briefly and returned to my original spot on the side of the checkout counter. Another credit card user was prompted for ID from the cashier, but this time something strange happened: when the cashier went to present the customer a pen and receipt for signing, the cashier dropped them on the counter beside her and scrambled to pick them up, scattering several items on her side of the counter in the process. After the customer signed and left, I noticed the cashier very meticulously return a blue lunch knapsack to its original position—lying flat but with the bottom pointing toward her.
I finally confirmed her plot when the next customer paid by credit card. Hot Cashier Girl wasn’t just tapping their IDs to pass the time while cards were processed; she was purposely showing the face of the IDs to the bottom of her lunch bag. I moved around to the other side of the counter and confirmed my suspicions: there was a small black hole at the bottom of her bag—just wide enough for a small camera to film through. Hot Cashier Girl had been videotaping every single customer’s ID.
I spotted Mr. Manager on the other side of the store and asked him why Hot Cashier Girl might be asking for IDs. He said it definitely wasn’t store policy. Then I asked why she might be tapping each ID in front of her holey-bottomed knapsack. He replied, “Are you serious?” and started walking toward the checkout counter. I rounded up my wife and gang who were finished in that store anyway (they found nothing they wanted) and we left. About 30 minutes later, we passed by again and I noticed four uniformed county police officers in the store. I like to think there were four more in the back asking Hot Cashier Girl for her ID.
Full story here:
http://www.punny.org/money/why-writing-see-id-on-credit-cards-is-the-w orst-thing-you-can-do/
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 1:47 PM
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1. Print the page from the PDF of both Visa and MasterCard and present this to them when they require ID. Be sure to hand write the URLs to these PDFs on the back of each so you can provide your source for the information to the store management.
2. Print the MasterCard Merchant Violation Page and present this to store management.
3. Black out your name and address on the confirmation letter you received from Visa and present that letter the store.
4. Ask the store to show you, in writing, their policy that states ID is required. You have provided them with documentation from the credit card companies that ID is not allowed. Ask them to provide you with documentation their company has produced that says otherwise. Nobody is going to be able to come up with any such documentation because NO retailer has ANY corporate produced materials that state to require ID on a signed credit card transaction.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:42 AM
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CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED
When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.
They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or photo ID.
Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.
Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577 or call 1-800-300-3069. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine. You may also report violations online:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. Violations of Visa’s Operating Regulations result in fines of no less than $5,000. To report a merchant, write to Visa Inc. P.O. Box 8999 San Francisco, CA 94128-8999 or call 1-800-VISA-911.
American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization." Report violations to: American Express P.O. Box 297812 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33329-7812 or call 1-800-528-4800 or report online: http://americanexpress.com/yourchoice
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:39 AM
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To report, simply call 1-800-VISA-911, press zero twice, and ask to file an "incident report" regarding a merchant violation/merchant who required ID. Crooked merchants shape-up quickly to avoid suspension. Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:37 AM
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I've gotten a couple merchants shut-off from accepting credit cards over repeat violations of this issue (they usually change their practice within a few hours of being shut-off; it really gets their attention).
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:35 AM
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NO MINIMUMS
NO MAXIMUMS
NO SURCHARGES
NO ID
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:32 AM
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Demanding ID is just about the most offensive and insulting violation the idiot cashier could do to a customer. You compare the signature on the back of the credit card with the signature on the receipt. ID should never be asked for at all. No one should ever be put through such nonsense. Immediately call 1-800-VISA-911. Make sure that horribly behaving cashier shapes-up and never asks for ID again.
Never show ID with credit cards.
No ID required with credit cards. Merchants cannot require ID.
If a merchant tries to require ID, immediately call 1-800-VISA-911 to ensure they never do again.
VISA: 1-800-VISA-911
MasterCard: 1-800-300-3069
Also easily report merchant violations online:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
Check the box that says “Merchant required ID”
Make sure your community is 100% violation-free.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:27 AM
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Obviously it is a major security and identity theft risk, extreme invasion of privacy, and a no-brainer to keep your ID to yourself. No reasonable adult would hand over their ID to some violating cashier on demand. The most important thing is making sure it never happens again, so if any violating merchant should ever pop-up in your community, make sure they are eliminated/brought back into line immediately - 1-800-VISA-911.
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by / /. Posted Mon January 18, 2010 @ 3:25 AM
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CREDIT CARD SIGNATURE IS ALL THE ID NEEDED
When you pay for merchandise with a Visa card, MasterCard, or American Express any store that accepts these cards should accept yours too, no questions asked. It's part of the deal that merchants agree to when they become participating members.
They must check your signature and the card - electronically or by telephone - to be sure it's valid. Once the answer comes up yes, they can go ahead and charge. They can't ask you for any further identification - not a license plate number, Social Security number, proof of address, phone number or photo ID.
Your personal ID isn't needed because Visa, MasterCard, and American Express all guarantee payment on cards that have been properly checked. If the issuer mistakenly authorizes a sale on a bad card, it should make good. MasterCard says that merchants receive instant settlement. The contract MasterCard merchants sign specifically prevents them from asking for personal ID.
Unfortunately, not all merchants play by the rules. Some, apparently, haven't read them.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
MasterCard wants to hear about merchants who break their rules. Send the name and address and an account of what happened to MasterCard WorldWide 2000 Purchase St. Purchase, NY 10577 or call 1-800-300-3069. The merchant's bank will get a stiff letter, ordering it to investigate and bring the offending store into line - or pay a $2,000 fine. You may also report violations online:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/personal/en/contactus/merchantviolations. html
Visa enforces the same rules as MasterCard. "When we hear about a violation, we ask the bank that signed the merchant to get together with the merchant and see that the practice is stopped," Visa representative states. Violations of Visa’s Operating Regulations result in fines of no less than $5,000. To report a merchant, write to Visa Inc. P.O. Box 8999 San Francisco, CA 94128-8999 or call 1-800-VISA-911.
American Express also prohibits merchants from asking for IDs. "All a merchant is supposed to do is take an imprint, make sure the signature matches and swipe the card through the terminal, to get authorization." Report violations to: American Express P.O. Box 297812 Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33329-7812 or call 1-800-528-4800 or report online: http://americanexpress.com/yourchoice
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by Eddy23 Posted Sun December 27, 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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To the one who wrote about the screpancy of the photo id..
You are totally wrong about this situation... Trust me reporting a credit card stolen is a hassle an therefore there is a lot time waste... By showing photo id at store is really helpfull to avoid any frauds for store and for credit card owner... ID at some store is requiere to protect there assest... I'm pretty sure if you own store or ur own bussines you will want to lose money because of credit frauds
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I have had my VISA debit card stolen before. Whoever stole it knew to process it as a credit card when they bought something and managed to wipe my account clear. Yes, I got the money back, but if someone had ID'd this person, it might have bought more time for me to notice the card was gone. No matter how easy your bank makes it, having your card stolen and used sucks. badly.
While I do not know the legality behind what the clerk did...I know from personal experience that I am happy anytime a clerk takes the time to ID me when I use my card. I hope you never have your card stolen, but if you think about for a moment, you will be happy they took the time to check your ID. This really is about protecting you.
To be honest, I think all stores should require proof of ID when using a credit card.
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by elbobbo Posted Fri November 13, 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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Reguiring ID for a credit card purchase is NOT a violation of Visa terms of service. In fact most processing companies require that ID is requested for credit purchases. I work for a company which is required to ask for ID for anyone who has a card with no signature but others' contracts require ID for all purchases. It is to protect the merchant from someone claiming their card was used fraudulantly.
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by elbobbo Sun November 29, 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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by hobbs Posted Tue November 10, 2009 @ 4:44 PM
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Visa Acceptance procedures cannot supercede US Code. As per United States law:
US Code: Title 18 S. 2721
Personal information referred to in subsection (a)...may be disclosed as follows:
(A) to verify the accuracy of personal information submitted by the individual to the business or its agents, employees, or contractors; and
(B) if such information as so submitted is not correct or is no longer correct, to obtain the correct information, but only for the purposes of preventing fraud by, pursuing legal remedies against, or recovering on a debt or security interest against, the individual.
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I TOTALLY agree with you and that is the 1 reason I don't shop at Radio Shack!!!! I needed an ethranet cable for work many months ago, I grabbed my SIGNED Visa card, stuck it in my back pocket, and headed to Radio Shack. When I swiped my card for my $7 dollar item he said he needed my ID. I showed him my card was signed and he could match the signatures but that I didn't have my ID on me.
Again with the policy nonsense about checking my ID for any credit card transaction and would not sell me the cord!!! I headed to Best Buy and bought it with no problem. I mean come on if someones spending a good amount of money then check, but I can't imagine any criminal is going to take the time to learn a signature and head to Radio Shack for a $10 item.
I mean personally I don't need to be showing my ID with my address and what not all over town. Not that I'm a paranoid weirdo about it, but these days everyone wants your SS# and your ID. It bothers me, if you can match the signature then that should be sufficient to make a purchase under $100 or so...
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by Jared C. Posted Mon November 2, 2009 @ 2:36 PM
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If people want to complain about merchants NOT following VISA's rules, someone should make a concerted effort to get all the little mom-and-pop (usually Indian) stores to take credit card transactions that are UNDER $5.00.
It is ILLEGAL to specify a minimum amount for a credit card transaction! And TONS of little stores break this law DAILY.
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by Jared C. Posted Mon November 2, 2009 @ 2:34 PM
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Just show the clerk your ID!!!!!!
I have NEVER understood why people - usually senior citizens - are so reticent about doing this!
As a former bank teller, I cannot tell you how many times some old fogey/codger starting belly-aching simply over me trying to protect his or her account!
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by Brett H. Posted Sun November 1, 2009 @ 2:27 PM
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Visa has developed their product based on convenience, and when merchants violate Visa's rules, the consumer value of having a Visa card is diminished.
The famous Super Bowl ad from 1997 has Bob Dole in his hometown in Kansas where everyone is calling out his name. He attempts to pay his diner bill with a check, but then is hassled about needing an ID. The message of the ad is that if he had presented his Visa checkcard, it would have been much more convenient.
"The Visa checkcard… no questions asked; no ID needed."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbGx6kYRYj8
There was a similar ad with Daffy Duck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zny7Dr4gPdM
So, yes, we should complain and let Visa know when merchants are in breach of contract. I like the Visa rules just the way they are and appreciate Visa making a convenient product.
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by Applejacker Posted Fri October 30, 2009 @ 2:28 AM
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And what if your card was stolen, used, and they did not ask for photo ID. You would be yelling at them "Why didn't you ask for photo ID?!!! I'm going to sue you!!!"
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by Fairbank R. Posted Thu October 29, 2009 @ 8:43 PM
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Everyone who believes that asking for identification when a credit card is used for a purchase is unaware of the credit card regulations.
Many who have replied before me appear to be guessing as to how credit cards "should" be processed. Cardholders are not responsible for fraudulent transactions on credit cards.
Also:
When should you ask a cardholder for an official government ID? Although Visa rules do not preclude merchants from asking for cardholder ID, merchants cannot make an ID a condition of acceptance.
Therefore, merchants cannot refuse to complete a purchase transaction because a cardholder refuses to provide ID . Visa believes merchants should not ask for ID as part of their regular card acceptance procedures . Laws in several states also make it illegal for merchants to write a cardholder’s personal information, such as an address or phone number, on a sales receipt.
See pages 28 & 29 of the Rules For Visa Merchants at the below URL:
http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/rules_for_visa_merchants.pdf
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You are upset that a vendor went the extra step to insure that the person using the Visa card presented was inded the owner and in doing so protect you and them against fraud? Odd. I get upset when they don't.
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by Cromax-gal Posted Wed October 28, 2009 @ 7:35 PM
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This is not a biggie, a lot of stores require photo ID when using credit. I'd rather have them ask than not, especially if someone stole my card.
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. . . you were in a store that sells primarily electronic equipment. Their fraud cases must be sky high. They have to protect themselves from people who would rip them off with cards that aren't theirs.
For example, if you were to initiate a fraud chageback over this transaction, the onus will be on the vendor, not the cardholder to prove that the charge was valid, or they don't get paid!
Instead of griping about how they SHOULDN'T be checking your ID, be grateful they do. It's going to significantly curb the chance that your card will be able to be used there without your consent.
And just FYI, it is in no way a violation of Visa's acceptance procedures to ask for ID - since Visa holds the merchants responsible for their own submission they can ask you for a birth certificate, 3 utility bills and your 90 year old grandmother's maiden name if they wanted to - and still be in compliance.
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by fishbjc Posted Wed October 28, 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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I never mind having my id checked, but it DOES violate Visa/MC Policy.
As a vendor myself, I read the policy and understood it BEFORE agreeing to accept cc's.
What SHOULD be done is for the merchant to accept the charge while adhering to the policy that they AGREED TO.
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I did have one instance where a female handed me a Visa with the name of a male. I refused to accept the card and the fight was on....lol
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name on card
by Retail Veteran Wed October 28, 2009 @ 1:49 PM
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by Amy C. Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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No offense, but I think Visa should allow merchants to require ID. You obviously did have ID and just didn't want to show it as you later complied. Just show an ID and move on. Do you know how many people I have stopped from buying stuff because I check their ID? Most people are glad when I make them come in to buy the Ipod for their teenagers instead of letting their teenagers use their charge card.
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by Chadg Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 6:19 PM
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I support requiring ID for all CC transactions, however, i believe your complaint is entirely valid. I looked it up, Visa rules clearly state that ID cannot be a condition of acceptance and until that changes, we should respect that.
I feel that a business should be able to ask for ID if they think something is suspect about the transaction or for high dollar amounts. I would think visa would support this, but apparently not.
Did you (everyone) also know, a business can refuse a CC if it does not bear your signature? Even if you write "See ID" it could be rejected because its acceptance would become conditional on seeing an ID.
I see this all the time, someone fails to sign their card, and under my store's policy, i have to refuse the card.
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by Fairbank R. Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 4:00 PM
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Many who have replied before me appear to be guessing as to how credit cards "should" be processed. Cardholders are not responsible for fraudulent transactions on credit cards.
Also:
When should you ask a cardholder for an official government ID? although Visa rules do not preclude merchants from asking for cardholder ID, merchants cannot make an ID a condition of acceptance . Therefore, merchants cannot refuse to complete a purchase transaction because a cardholder refuses to provide ID . Visa believes merchants should not ask for ID as part of their regular card acceptance procedures . Laws in several states also make it illegal for merchants to write a cardholder’s personal information, such as an address or phone number, on a sales receipt.
See pages 28 & 29 of the Rules For Visa Merchants at the below URL:
http://usa.visa.com/download/merchants/rules_for_visa_merchants.pdf
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Yes
by Donno Tue October 27, 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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by James S. Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 2:26 PM
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Here is a good reason for the merchant to require you to show your ID, they want to make sure that the card you are using is yours and not someone elses. The merchant does not know if you are using a credit card turned off or reported as stolen. When a passenger wants to buy a seat on a flight or need to pay for other things at my ticket counter, and they present a Visa debit card from their bank and it says on the bottom "perfered customer", I politely ask them for a card with their name on it and a photo ID so that I can make sure that it is their credit/debit card. Visa should applaud the merchant for asking you to show your ID.
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last I knew/read, merchants are not allowed to ask for picture ID (by virtue of their card agreements with the credit card companies).
However, given the opportunities for fraud, I think it should be THE LAW that you have to provide photo ID with any debit or credit card use.
I work PT at a convenience store gas station, and this would not slow things down much at all, so that excuse won't fly.
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by Just Jeffrey Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 12:45 PM
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I've been through similar issues. Turns out, a business can require you to show ID if they choose. You have the right to refuse, and shop elsewhere.
It's wrong for a store to claim it's Visa's policy, when it's not.
Here's the thing with Visa: they want you to use their card. Which is why they have vendor agreements that prohibit activities that would discourage use of the card. These include credit surcharge/cash discount, having a minimum, requiring ID, etc.
In general, Visa doesn't mess with businesses that are otherwise "clean." Radio Shack, for example, is unlikely to get smacked down by Visa simply because Radio Shack is a sizable business (although not nearly what it once was) that processes many thousands of credit cards a day.
Also, there are many ways for a business to get around Visa's rules.
If I were you, I'd focus on complaining to Radio Shack. They used to require you to give a phone number and address to buy anything -- even a battery -- but that they've backed off that policy due to a significant number of complaints.
Demand that the manager show you the corporate policy, if that's his excuse. If it is corporate policy, ask the manager to give you direct contact information (not just the customer service number). Promise not to be specific about which manager provided the information, so that the manager will feel better about not getting into trouble.
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by NathanG Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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I could be wrong, and it could be a state by state thing, but at my night/weekend job we accept Visa Mastercard and discover and we ask for ID.
Right on the Visa form it says ID may be required before purchase is authorized. That is on the actual visa paperwork supplied by visa. I can look tonight when I get there if Im not busy, we have the whole merchant 10 commandments book somewhere.
whether its correct or not the other commentor had a point, if your cards get lost/stolen and used by someone you will probably be cursing the staff for not verifying their IDs.
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by Courtney G. Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 10:18 AM
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While it may be a violation of the merchant agreement, I just don't understand why you wouldn't just show your ID card. Whenever I pay by credit card, I always have my ID card to show to the cashier just in case he/she were to ask for it. Most retail companies I have worked for over the years always wanted me to check ID with a credit card. I actually had no idea that this was against the merchant agreement until recently, when I was on another site.
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ID
by elbobbo Mon November 30, 2009 @ 9:38 AM
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by andbran Posted Tue October 27, 2009 @ 2:04 AM
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i bet when your card gets stolen you will definetly support having ids checked. whenever i use my credit card im grateful when they check
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Me too.
by Ginger2.0 Tue October 27, 2009 @ 8:15 AM
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Use Cash, No ID necessary! And No Hassles!
Good Day
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I agree
by Tooter Tue October 27, 2009 @ 3:07 PM
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