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A Customer Service Nightmare at Walgreen's
Posted Fri August 11, 2006, by Ben T. written to Walgreen's
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Dear Walgreens,
I am writing this e-mail in regard to an incident that happened to me in your store in Billerica, Massachusetts on July 15, 2006, about 7:30 Eastern Time. I came to Boston from Seattle for our World Wide Partner Conference, and afterward I decided to stay for a while and take a little vacation. While here, my friend and I stopped into your store in Billerica to purchase some things that we wanting to buy. First of all, let me tell you that my friend is a Walgreen fanatic. He will go to Walgreen over Rite Aid or Longs Drugs even if it's out of the way because he loves your store. So today, I noticed a sign that offered CD-Rs from Sony for 8.99. This was a great deal, but when I went to pay, they charged me 25.00. So when I challenged that they told me that the price was for data CDs. So I asked to see the manager, and a lady came over to talk with us (she later identified herself as Mrs. Gannon).
Now from the very moment the assistant manager arrived, she was rude, sarcastic, and downright condescending. The first thing she did was accuse us of moving the price tag to get the better price. So I asked her... "Were are the data CDs?" She looked and didn't see any. There were, in fact, no data CDs. So I asked her how we could have moved the tag. My other question to her was, "What is the difference between a data CD and a CD-R? Because in my line of work, I use CD-Rs for everything I do, including recording both data and music. Then she resorted to "Well we're not going to give it to you at this price."
My friend, who has been a customer service representative for many years (I was as well), knew very well that you could not advertise products you don't have. So he told her that it was illegal. Her response to that? "Oh, by all means... sue Walgreen." At this point both my friend and I were really getting frustrated. So we asked her for her name. Her response to that? "Do you want my home address as well?" So we asked her to provide us with the name of her manager, the store number, and her name. She went into her office, and we thought that she was getting them. My friend and I waited... and waited... and waited. I was getting the idea that she was shunning us, so I went to our car to get my cell phone as I was going to ask for the number for customer service and just call them from there. That's when I saw the police come into the parking lot, and I knew right away that she had called the police.
Sure enough, the police herded us together. Her response to the police was that she felt threatened. We never threatened her. And if you even suspect that we did, then I know you have cameras all over that store and all you have to do is review the tapes. Had she given us the information we asked for, we would have walked right out the door and been gone. But there never was a threat.
First of all, I work for a major corporation with a worldwide group; I'm a writer, I have three books out now, and there's no way I'm going to risk my reputation by being seen doing anything threatening in a store. I've managed to go forty-two years (my whole life) without ever having the police called on me. And the police didn't want to hear our side of the story. They kicked us out (after they threatened us that they could arrest us) and told us we were not welcome at the store anymore. I have challenges with customer service, but I've never had them call the police on me. And to be totally honest, I suspect that if the police had suspected we were in fact any threat at all, they would have arrested us right there.
I don't know what to say from here. Needless to say, I'm very angry. I'm from Seattle where we have companies like Nordstrom and Starbucks. These things would never happen to me there. And if the police were to be called, then there had better be a reason. I have NEVER said this about anyone in my life, but I'm saying it now. This person is in the wrong job. She did her best to escalate the situation, and when that happened, rather then take responsibility for it and try to bring it back down, she called the police. Let me repeat this: Had she given us the information we asked for, we would have left and she would have been "out of danger" to quote her words. But she didn't even attempt that.
I work with customers around the world. Just the other day I was in front of over 11 thousand of them at one time. When there is a problem I do everything I can to work with the customer. It's not in my best interest to have angry customers. I've even had to stop and ask a customer... "What can I do to make this right?" And when I wasn't able to, I continued to ask how we could resolve the problem." Finally, we were able to negotiate. I was very clear with her what I COULD do, and she was very clear with me what she WANTED. And soon enough, we found common ground.
What I'm asking from you is a written... formal apology from Walgreen, and a written formal apology from Mrs. Gannon.
And the real irony out of all this is that my friend loves Walgreen, and he's afraid that he can no longer shop there... even in Seattle. Yes, he's angry, and he's also going to go through all these options, but he would love to just have the apology and not have to go through any of it.
All that being said, I want to thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I know it's long, but today was a brutal day for me. I've never been arrestedor threatenedbefore, and when I've had disagreements with customer service people, they have never called the police on me. The truth is, I see people argue all the time, and nobody calls the police.
Here are the statistics that I have. I don't know if Mrs. Gannon has told me the truth, but here is what she gave me, and I know you have all this information if in fact she wasn't forthright with me.
Assistant Manager:
MS. Gannon
Manager:
Tom Arbour
Store:
446 Boston Rd
Billerica, MA 01821
Sincerely,
Ben Tousey
Send a written apology from both Walgreens and from Mrs. Gannon.
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by Tatis Posted Sun May 10, 2009 @ 8:53 PM
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It is Sunday, May 10th at 5:25PDT and I have just returned from the Walgreens Pharmacy at 6838 North 7th Street in Phoenix, Arizona. I was there to pick up a prescription that I arranged to have transferred from CVS two days ago, on Friday morning. I am an attorney from California in town visiting for Mother's Day weekend. When I went to the pickup window I was approached by a pharmacy employee who said his name was "Serg." He told me that he didn't have my prescription and that CVS must have "lost it." I replied that I found it frustrating that I was not contacted about a problem so that I could fix it before the weekend was over. He said that it was my fault for giving Walgreens an inaccurate phone number. However, I made sure to double check my contact phone number with the pharmacy employee with whom I arranged to transfer the prescription on Friday. He then proceeded to verbally accost me. He began raising his voice and other employees and customers were witnessing the attack. I told him I wished to speak to his supervisor and he told me I should just get lost and go to CVS. His tirade continued while another employee, scared and visibly shaking, told me that both the pharmacy manager and the store managers were out of town. He began outright screaming at me and continued even after I walked away. There is no doubt in my mind that I (nor ANY of my family who were home when I returned from being attacked) will ever step foot in any Walgreens again - However, I feel obligated to let others know about the virtual lunatics employed by this company and in contact with customers. I will also be sending written complaints to the store's general manager, Walgreens corporate customer service office, and Walgreens corporate legal department.
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by Alison C. Posted Tue November 11, 2008 @ 7:27 PM
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I just want to say that, as an employee for walgreens, you can't judge a corporation by one bad experience. The manager you spoke to sounds like a bad egg. I have never, in my experience, met a manager that acted that way toward a customer. Don't knock walgreens just because of one bad employee. I know the majority of us bend over backwards to meet customers' needs. And we do it with smiles on our faces. I also want to point out that in most of the walgreens weekly advertisements, it does say that product availability varies according to which store you go to. Some stores may not carry the same things as other stores. It is that store's mistake for placing the ad tag on the shelf if they didn't carry the CD-R data cds that the tag pertained to. Also, the difference between data cds and CD-Rs is that they are both CD-Rs, they are just designated for different types of files. You may use a data CD-R for anything, but it is recommended that you use it for programs or things like that, instead of music. There is a difference between these two items in the Walgreens inventory system. So the tag was in the wrong place, in fact it should not have been put up at all. That doesn't mean that they were refusing to give you a sale price for the item on sale. The item you had selected didn't match the item on sale. There seemed to be quite a few blunders made by the Walgreens manager that you encountered, but don't punish us all because of one bad seed!
Walgreens employee in MN
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by rhonda6975 Posted Thu October 11, 2007 @ 5:59 PM
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My mother just had a very bad experience at her neighborhood walgreens. She asked one of the employees if she could use the restroom and the employee allowed her to use the restroom.Well, when my mother came out of the restroom the manager was standing at the door and started verbally attacking my mother telling her she was not allowed to use the restroom. She followed her throughout the store and kept screaming at her.My mother had asked the pharm. to call 911 but they just stood there and watched. After my mother told them to call 911 the rude manager told my mother if she called the cops, she would never be allowed in her store again. My mother is a 65 year old lady who has very bad heart problems and it's not in her nature to argue with people.I'm really mad. I really think she should sue the crap out of this company!
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by Leah Tague Posted Thu August 17, 2006 @ 9:36 PM
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the only thing i gotta say is, flip over a walgreens ad. look at the bottom.
it CLEARLY says, and this is a direct quote, as i am taking it off the paper in front of me:
Not all advertised items available at all stores.
first line in it. but it is not illegal to run out of an item.
and something else, while cameras show what you do and don't do, they don't have recordings of what you said and didn't say. you might not have pyhsically did something to threaten them, but you could have said something.
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by gennee Posted Wed August 16, 2006 @ 3:41 PM
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Can you provide a quote and link to the law which states that it's illegal for stores to run out of the things they advertise?
The manager was quite clear that you weren't going to get the $25 CDs for $8.99. What were you hoping to accomplish by hanging around and hassling her for her name?
Finally, and most importantly, did the manager ask you to leave? If you stay in a business after you are asked to leave, they have every right to call the police and have you removed from their property.
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by tickytack Posted Mon August 14, 2006 @ 9:00 AM
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Methinks there is more than a tad bit of exaggeration here. No one calls the police for no reason; I'm sure there was an aura of threat around you.
Walgreen's fanatic? Give me a break.
Your alleged career is completely irrelevant, so I fail to see why you brought it up to begin with.
I'm calling shenanigans.
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Well...
by Giselle Tue August 15, 2006 @ 11:07 AM
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by MA Loper Posted Sun August 13, 2006 @ 10:03 PM
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OK, you started off OK, but by about the 3rd paragraph, you completely lost me.
1) it's not illegal to be out of an advertised item - it happens all the time. It is illegal to try and substitute the sale item for a different item at a higher price. HOWEVER, either way you still have the option of just not buying it.
2) I am not sure at what point the conversation between you, your friend and the manager spiraled out of control, but at some point, somebody there decided to take the "WalGreen's Fanatic" moniker to a WHOLE other place! Something was said or done that made that manager call the police on you.
3) My husband says I am longwinded (& I'm sure some of the other regular PFB'ers might agree with him) but YOU, my friend, take the longwinded cake!
4) WTH does Nordstrom's & Starbuck's have to do with an incident at WalGreen's?????
5) How many times do letter writers have to be reminded that companies don't give a crap where you work, how much you make, who you associate with or what kind of freaking car you drive? The minute you pull the status card, you immediately invalidate any argument you may have had and become a big blowhard because no one cares!
At the end of the day, was it REALLY worth standing your ground and going through all this drama over CD Rom's? I mean, seriously, you and your friend nearly got yourselves arrested over CD-R's. Being able to show your faces again in a WalGreen's should have been the LEAST of your concerns.
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by K G Posted Sun August 13, 2006 @ 7:15 PM
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I've found in MA especially there is a HUGE problem with people switching tags so she was justified in thinking that. Does your friend REALLY think the MA Walgreens took the time to call Seattle (because they really know where you're from) and say hey don't let this guy shop here? Maybe you should stay on the west coast with your precious Starbucks and Nordstrom :)
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There's nothing illegal about not having an advertised item in stock. Things DO sell out.
It only becomes illegal if they advertise an item for one price and are charging another for it. They were not doing this as they told you the sale price was for a different item. You were being difficult, and rather than accepting the fact that the one you wanted was not on sale, you chose to escalate the situation and had the cops called on you. All you had to say when you found out that the one you wanted wasn't on sale is "I've decided against this."
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You said that it is illegal to advertise items that are not in the store, well it is also illegal for you to move the items, I bet you are not being honest with your side of the story. She would never have called the police on you if you were not being threatening. Shame on you for picking on a woman.
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omg!
by sportygirl101 Sun August 13, 2006 @ 2:39 PM
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by Giselle Posted Sun August 13, 2006 @ 9:51 AM
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I think these folks got bad service. If the manager felt threatened, why did she she ask them (obviously with sarcasm), if they wanted her home address too? Why didn't she just ask them to leave? I was a retail store manager for years, if I felt threatened by a customer, I wouldn't bait them by being sarcastic. I'd request they leave and if that failed, THEN I'd call the police.
The bottom line is that no one commenting on this letter was there, so its hard to make a judgement. Hopefully, Walgreens will investigate and respond in an appropriate manner.
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I call BS
by Giselle Mon August 14, 2006 @ 12:18 PM
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by p d Posted Sat August 12, 2006 @ 10:35 PM
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You say it's illegal to advertise things a store doesn't have. How do you know they weren't sold out on them?
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Eydie
by tickytack Mon August 14, 2006 @ 9:16 AM
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To Eydie
by tickytack Wed August 16, 2006 @ 8:24 AM
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Oh Stop!
by Giselle Mon August 14, 2006 @ 12:23 PM
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by Gino Posted Sat August 12, 2006 @ 4:06 PM
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Hi Ben Tousey,
Nice to make your acquaintence. I see you are using a computer to e-mail. A short primer on cd, cdroms,,,, Basically the deal is this. You get a computer and a rom burner (cd and or dvd) and it can read and write at different speeds. Different types of file requre more space (audio and video for examples) and others reqire less space (data for instance) So the standards in the industry are basically based on the speed (anywhere from 4x to 12x and even 24x and beyond) So, companies make data only discs designed to work seamlessly with different drives at much faster and efficent read/write speeds than other purpose or multi purpose cd media) The standard amout of information on most one sided cd/dvd burners are 700 mb for data or 80 minutes of audio (depending on type of file and level of compression) and 650 mb storage for data and approximately an hour more or less of audio (depending again on file type or level of compression) Not to confused the issue, but rarely do you get exactly what's stated on the box because there's some space on there for proprietary programs and other reasons.Need to read the fine print.
Speaking of fine print.. pick up any walmard ad or circular. There's things in fine print for a reason OTHER than to balance the look, or take up space. "Limited Qantities, Not all merchandise available at all locations, exceptions and exclusions apply, not responsible for typographial errors etc.
On to the BRILLIANT letter. It's over wordy but well put. It clearly shows that you must know of what you speak and are not just some "ordinary" or "less than ordianary" consumer. Which for some reason THIS college educated peon dosen't quite see.
Two men with a bone to pick vs one woman. Cameras, though well meaning, cannot record the inner workings of the mind or the feelings of anyone being taped. It simply records the events as it sees them. Weapons or brute force or posture or body language are not the only means of communicatiing threat. To quote another "peon" ,Cher, in one of her songs ...."Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes".
Ben I just love your letter!!!!! I hope the "windy city" blows away the aftereffects of "Beantown" hopefully not in my direction.
I am impressed with your writing skills and do feel bad this manager felt threatened enough to call the cops. It's unfortunate she didn't know you are Ben Tousey who's never had the cops called, is a published writer of three books etc...Had she known maybe she'd have treated you better. The National Guard instead of the Police.
Thanks for sharing this letter where you clearly sate how this incident could reflect poorly on you and your career and writing, then sharing your whole name. Thank GOD Romance Novel Writers uses Pseudonyms or I'm guessing you'd be in really deep doo doo. (a word us peons use that has less impact than "crap" or "poop")
Wish you all the best
Really
Sincerely
From a good place.
Honest
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by Leanne L Posted Sat August 12, 2006 @ 1:19 PM
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It sounds to me like several things may have happened here. Maybe or maybe she did not know these items were not in the store. Lets say she did know that they no longer or never even had them. You called her on it. By stating to her that it was illegal, this may have come across to her as "a threat". She was defensive with her remark (guilt and fear) about you suing her. She could be in big trouble here with the company and her job. (just suppose) It's possible she called the police not only as a diversion but to put it on record that it was YOU harrassing HER and deflected the attention away from herself. I'm sure there was nothing on record about the CD's with the police so now that isn't even documented. If you are to take her to court now for this, there it is on record now, that YOU harrassed HER. She turned it around on you. That is, provided that it happened that way. On the other hand, she may have felt you were yelling at her and got scared for real and called police. Who knows. Her sarcasm didn't show fear though. Her accusation didn't show professionalism. If you are threatened, you don't accuse and get sarcastic, as that would exacerbate the mood of the customer, if in fact that customer was actually threatening and she was afraid of you for real. I don't think she was afraid of you, but afraid because you called her on it. Maybe.........
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Right
by Leanne L Sat August 12, 2006 @ 4:56 PM
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by Venice Posted Sat August 12, 2006 @ 2:00 AM
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"I'm from Seattle where we have companies like Nordstrom and Starbucks. These things would never happen to me there."
I'm sorry, I don't understand that statement. Would you kindly explain it to me.
Thank you.
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Chicago
by JuliePie Sat August 12, 2006 @ 5:42 PM
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by Gerald R Posted Fri August 11, 2006 @ 9:44 PM
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First of all, I of course, wasn't there so I can't make any conclusive judgement call and I'm certainly not going to go into the "assumtion route". That being said, yes, the Asst.Mgr should of acted in a way that didn't escalate the situation. That's the primary responsiblity of the manager on duty in situations like that.
This was on July 15 which is the last day of the ad. This store probably ran out of the item. They should have offered you a rain check that you could use anywhere at any Walgreens. Was the ad tag in the wrong location or was the item in the wrong spot? Who knows.
The difference between a stack of Sonys at $9 (ad price) and one at $25 is huge. The main difference in the items is probably due to the number of CDs in each stack. As far as data CDs are concerned they are usually a slower speed CD whereas those that say they are for music are usually higher speed. If you were to buy a CD that was very slow speed (i.e. 8x) it would work in just about any computer but it would take a bit longer to burn a CD for music than it would if you were to buy a CD with 48x capabilities. That's why a manufacturer might label it a "data CD". That's all that means.
Anyway, this sounds like an Asst. Manager that couldn't handle any type of confrontation but then again, you didn't help matters either. Your request for the store manager's name and store number seemed simple enough. Why she acted the way she did is sort of weird.
And I'm glad Seattle is such a nice place to live and that no one in Seattle would treat you like the mean ol' people there in liberal la la land. Me thinks you're a bit "ethnocentristic" (after 30 years I finally get to use that word in a sentence).
By the way what good is a written apology? You know the Asst. Manager won't mean it (and believe me Walgreens DOES NOT make managers write letters of apologies). Usually those that demand letters of apology are those who want to have a sense of power.
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Strange
by Gerald R Fri August 11, 2006 @ 11:14 PM
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