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Where Is The Outrage At Bank Profits?
Posted Tue May 2, 2006, by Jeff G. written to Wells Fargo
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Bank Rip-offs
I understand that everyone is upset about gas prices and the large earnings of the oil companies, but has anyone noticed the record profits these financial behemoths are making? Exxon Mobil for example had revenue of about $320 billion last year and earned around $36 billion in profits. That is a profit margin of about 9.6%. On the same note, Citigroup, which is the largest American bank, had revenue of about $85 billion but earned a whopping $24.5 billion in profits. Where is the outrage here? It seems like I have to pay more and more just to use out of network atm fees, not to mention them allowing my check card to make multiple purchases even though I don't have enough funds just so they can charge me an ever expanding nsf fee. I think it's now about $40 per incident. They also charge for on-line banking via quicken or money and the rates they pay for savings interest is an insult. They even have the nerve to charge me $10 a month for a business checking account and just for good measure they also charge $5 per month for a business savings account. The Bank employees treat customers like we are interupting whatever REAL work they are supposed to be doing in the branch. Please...someone help me on this. Where is the shame for these financial institutions. Maybe we should have a windfall profit on them too!!
Give some of your profits back in the form of higher savings rates and/or reduced fees on your accounts. They should also lower those out of network ATM fees. I can't tell how many times I have to drive around just looking for a wells fargo branch so I don't have to keep paying fees.
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by Michael Krieger Posted Fri April 27, 2007 @ 2:26 PM
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Well, I think that it is quite easy to avoid any bank fees. If you want to earn good interest with low fees, everyone has to option of going to online banks like ING Direct, Etrade, or Everbank. Everbank has capabilities to do everything that a regular bank can do. Even so, you can still maintain a relationship with a branch bank and have a free checking somewhere, but in my opinion, it isn't necessary in today's world.
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by MA Loper Posted Thu May 4, 2006 @ 4:16 PM
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You think a 10% profit is BIG???
Yes, Banks charge fees, don't like it, FIND ANOTHER BANK! Plenty of banks offer "Free" checking or savings accounts. You should look into one. But I doubt that will solve your problem.
While it is frustrating to think that banks capitalize off the carelessness (and running your account to the point of overdrawing it is careless!) of their customers - can you really blame them?
You know the old saying, a fool and his money are soon parted!
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by USArmyTrooper Posted Thu May 4, 2006 @ 1:11 PM
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Excuse me, but where do you or anyone else get off being "outraged" at anyone making a profit? These companies are here to earn a return for their investors (who by the way include a lot of individuals, pension plans, etc.). They are not here to make your life easier. No one owes me, you, or anyone else, a duty to make your life easier. They do, however, owe their shareholders a fiduciary duty to maximize, within the law, their return on investment.
And incidentally, those charges are spelled out in your account agreements or in the amendments thereto. If you don't like them, take your business to a credit union.
Instead of being outraged over profits, maybe you should be outraged on the pathetic lack of understanding of economics that seems to prevail in this country...
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AMEN!!!
by Gerald R Thu May 4, 2006 @ 7:42 PM
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Huhh?
by bankerchick Thu May 4, 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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by Chris M Posted Wed May 3, 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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These are public and private companies in the business of making money...well, earning money, not actually making it :) 10% profit is inline with what a moderately successful company should pull in.
I agree with the rest of the posters - balance your checkbook and get cash out of your OWN ATMS's (which usually do not charge fee's) and you will be better.
Those ATM machines are not free. It sucks to pay $2 to get $20 or $40 out, but think about all of the transactions needed before an ATM pays the initial investment off, then add costs of maintaining it.
Furthermore, for the ATM withdrawal cost, you can do what I do and get cash back for FREE at any number of stores when you purchase something. (Groceries, lumber, etc). Sometimes I will even go into the local store instead of use the ATM out front of the store because I can charge a $1.00 pack of gum and get cash back at the same time. So I spent $1, but I also have gum for it.
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by gb Posted Wed May 3, 2006 @ 9:42 AM
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Here is a way to solve a few of your problems.
Balance your checkbook and don't spend more money than you have -- then you will not have NSF fees.
Get some cash out weekly to use, then you won't have to pay for the ATM fees.
I don't think banks have ever paid high interst rates on checking or savings have they?
I have a feeling they charge for on-line banking because there is a cost to them involved.
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by Chris O. Posted Wed May 3, 2006 @ 8:17 AM
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P.S. - Seems that BoA charges $12-25 for a biz checking account in California, but $15-25 for a biz checking in Texas. THAT's what you should be outraged by - the fact that I would have to pay more for the same thing you'd be getting, but I'll bet since that difference is in your favor I won't hear you showing your anger. ;)
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by Chris O. Posted Wed May 3, 2006 @ 8:14 AM
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I agree with Brenny. I use Bank of America and I don't get charged an NSF because I balance my account & always know how much money I have available. In addition, I chose BoA after I researched how many ATMs are available to me in my area so I *don't* have to pay the fees.
Just some quick 2 minute research showed me that BoA charges $15-$25 worth of fees per month for business checking, so Wells Fargo is cheaper than that, in fact, none of their biz checking fees are $25/mo. If you aren't happy with the fees, switch banks. That's an option you have.
We don't really have the option to switch oil companies when we're unhappy with their prices since most oil companies are charging the same or very similar prices. The fees aren't as different as they are in the banking industry.
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by Brenny Posted Tue May 2, 2006 @ 10:25 PM
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I don't pay the bank any fees. I chose a checking and savings account with no monthly fee. I use only Bank of America ATMs so I don't get charged ATM fees. If there is no Bank of America atm then I just charge it. I keep track of my checking account so I don't get nsf feess. It seems simple enough to me.
The Bank does pay ME for having a money market account, interest checking, and a CD. Works for me!
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by bankerchick Posted Tue May 2, 2006 @ 10:19 PM
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First, I have never seen a sign "Non Profit Organization" written over the door at any bank. If you have a business account with a bank I will make two assumptions. 1. You own your own business and 2. You do not work for free. I'll tell you what, next time I have a need for what you do, tell me you'll do it for free or a reduced rate. Wouldn't that cut into your profits?
Second, you are doing business with the wrong bank if you have to go outside network to use atms. Suggestion, most banks offer free accounts. Use a couple of them so there is an in network atm where you need it. If travel is an issue, consider an even larger bank, they usually have a better delivery system.
Third, don't blame employees at a bank for appearing busy, they are! Bank tellers are now being asked to do the same job that three of them did ten years ago for less pay. If their heads are down and they are focused on something, I guarantee it's on keeping their jobs! You don't balance, you get fired. Do their jobs for one day and I guarantee you would run screaming from the building. On top of management demands, fear of coming up out of balance and standing on your feet all day, customers walk in the door and complain about high fees, overdrafts and mistakes which, 99.99% of the time, they had nothing to do with. Don't point fingers at the teller line, point fingers at management. If tellers appear unhappy and uncaring it's because of them. I know, I've been both. Next time you go into your branch, try smiling at the teller and wish her a happy day and then go bitch out the manager. Next time you visit that teller will kill herself to wait on you and take care of your every need.
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Hooray!!!
by dragonflygrrl Wed May 3, 2006 @ 10:40 AM
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